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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 9:45:49 AM   
SubJordanTyler


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If one notices in my profile I am in female attire. Dressing as a woman brings out the femininity in my soul. I believe that I am a much better woman than a man. I do enjoy the female form and worship the aura of a sultana. Trying to feminize myself is not an act of humiliation, but an act of fulfillment that makes life seem better and gives me a sense of accomplishment. I am submissive and enjoy doing for others. Female clothes help my attitude and outlook.


This is exactly how I feel about it - probably couldn't have said it any better myself.  Being female has nothing to do with humiliation.  It's the male side of me who is the submissive and is into humiliation.  The female side is the opposite - strong, sexy, feminine and empowered.  You'd almost never see her as a sub, unless it was just for some play fun.  She'd be much more likely to take out a paddle and dominate some poor subs ass with it.  The female side is the strong and powerful side of me - there is no mocking, no humiliation, no sissy or drag stereotypes.  She is female - not a characteur.

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 9:57:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler

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ORIGINAL: bobipanti

If one notices in my profile I am in female attire. Dressing as a woman brings out the femininity in my soul. I believe that I am a much better woman than a man. I do enjoy the female form and worship the aura of a sultana. Trying to feminize myself is not an act of humiliation, but an act of fulfillment that makes life seem better and gives me a sense of accomplishment. I am submissive and enjoy doing for others. Female clothes help my attitude and outlook.


This is exactly how I feel about it - probably couldn't have said it any better myself.  Being female has nothing to do with humiliation.  It's the male side of me who is the submissive and is into humiliation.  The female side is the opposite - strong, sexy, feminine and empowered.  You'd almost never see her as a sub, unless it was just for some play fun.  She'd be much more likely to take out a paddle and dominate some poor subs ass with it.  The female side is the strong and powerful side of me - there is no mocking, no humiliation, no sissy or drag stereotypes.  She is female - not a characteur.


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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 1:39:36 PM   
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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 6:06:41 PM   
Reigna


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Trully the CD's that label themselves in that catagory are a seperate persona and many make quite beautiful women!


And some of them couldn't look like a woman to save themselves, but still are smokin' hot dressed en femme.

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It is just curious to me the males that do not label themselves that way but use a cross-dress photo to depict, and in my opinion, define themselves


In a lot of cases, dressing en femme makes them feel sexy. From that perspective, it's reasonable for a crossdresser to present his "sexy" self here, no?


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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 8:00:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		and some men cross dress just because they like the feel of sexy lingerie against their skin. When they think of lingerie and women's clothing they think of all the things about women that excite them the most and wearing those things is well.... really hot.  There are as many reasons as there are men and there are as many ways for Dommes to find it exciting or not as well.

There are some aspects of crossdressing I find appealing and some I do not. I would tend to be more into the "forced fem" camp. Which by the way, I disagree that there is no such thing. If we are to be so literal then most of D/s and BDSM would not exist because by the logic that "if he really wants it, it's not forced" then one could argue that there is no dominance because the sub really wants to submit.  The concept behind forced feminization is not the actual wearing of the clothes, but in being forced, or made to do something extremely  taboo. 

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 8:09:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

and some men cross dress just because they like the feel of sexy lingerie against their skin. When they think of lingerie and women's clothing they think of all the things about women that excite them the most and wearing those things is well.... really hot.  There are as many reasons as there are men and there are as many ways for Dommes to find it exciting or not as well.

There are some aspects of crossdressing I find appealing and some I do not. I would tend to be more into the "forced fem" camp. Which by the way, I disagree that there is no such thing. If we are to be so literal then most of D/s and BDSM would not exist because by the logic that "if he really wants it, it's not forced" then one could argue that there is no dominance because the sub really wants to submit.  The concept behind forced feminization is not the actual wearing of the clothes, but in being forced, or made to do something extremely  taboo. 



I have a different point of view here.
I would LOVE to feminize a man that does NOT like to crossdress, and has never attempted to do it.
There are men that would hate to do this, and would put up a fight and actually be humilated to do so.

There are so many ways to live this lifestyle.

There are those of us, that really make their submissives perform tasks that they really do not want to do!  Tasks that are not fun and exciting!
Such as {cleaning, washing, ironing our clothes, scrubbing floors and the toilet, running errands, cooking, etc.}
IF they enjoy it good for them, if not? Too bad.

Every Dominant that is involved in  a D/s relationship  is not interested in having a relationship in which we must always focus on pleasing our "submissive" and constantly catering to what the "submissve" likes to do and what he/she desires.

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 8:26:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I couldn't agree more MzMia. What fun is it for me if I was ordering my submissive to do exactly what he wants to do.
Puppy, go out in the cold and rake up leaves and burn them. Get my car washed in the middle of the night. Go to bed early because I have had enough of you for the day, and no, I will not be joining you. You will wear your pretty dress when *I* say you can, not when *you* feel like you have been a good boy. If I ask you to walk the mile to the store, I am not really asking, I am commanding you to. Why? Because I can. Because you have given me the authority to. You will do exactly what I tell you to do, when I tell you to do it and how I tell you to do it. I do not cater to your whims, I may laugh with you and tickle you, or you me, but when I give the "look", you know it is time to be serious. God I love the way you make me feel and I love you for it. You are never in any doubt about that, no matter what funky task I may be asking you to do

You rock my world, you know this.

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 8:35:42 PM   
MzMia


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Status: offline 		Thanks MistressOfGa!
 
I believe that a submissive should be getting his "needs" met, when he is doing a good job, and
to show you appreciate him/her.
No one is going to want to stay in a relationship, if they HATE the stituation and are getting nothing, that is common sense.
Good service will get you good rewards.
Good submissives are really very hard to come by, and who would want to lose one?
The better submissive you are, the happier you will be with me.

I like what you said about "giving the authority", that is KEY.
If it is not a power exchange in which you are giving me the power to direct you, then it is not really
an exchange at all.
If all you "have" to do are things you "enjoy" and "want" to do, I am not sure how I would be the Dominant
party in that situation. 

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 9:09:09 PM   
reeducated


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Status: offline 		If i were a dutiful male wife, i would expect to perform all the tedious drudgery that has in the past been called "women's work". i would also expect to be provided with material comfort as well as an occassional display of affection & appreciation.

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 9:28:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great post MzMia,

If I didnt know any better I would think I was reading one of Mistress's posts. You two have so much in common. I bet You two would be great friends. I hope You have had a good day and i look forward to reading more of Your posts.
lolololololololololololololol
-pup

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RE: Feminization - 4/15/2008 9:51:23 PM   
MzMia


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Status: offline 		Thank you so much pup, you and your Mistress are so darn cute!
 
 How wonderful you are, to have each other.
 
I enjoy reading your sweet posts on here.

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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 4:11:10 AM   
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More great insight here! Thanks

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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 2:19:23 PM   
SubJordanTyler


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Status: offline 		Dressing en femme does make me feel sexy, as everything is classy and put-together almost perfectly...........but not sexual, as far as it being a sexual turn-on.  I don't get "hard" when dressed.  While I may be tucked away nice and tight, it's not like I still can't get aroused and feel it down there.........but it almost never happens because I'm female then and acting like one.  If she were to ever decide to be the top, I can almost guarantee you that she'd put on a strap-on and use that to fuck the male or female.........instead of taking everything off and using the real thing.  It just wouldn't be female to do that.

And I've been told I look pretty hot as a woman............very feminine and fully passable.........definitely not a guy in a dress!!  I'm going to do a pro fashion shoot over the summer, and when I do, I'll post a few on my profile so you can see what I mean!!

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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 5:03:56 PM   
MissDs


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Status: offline 		Forced feminization can be so much more then putting a gurl in lingerie...  Imagine, whipping the gurl until she learns to sit like a lady.. and then when she gets that right - whip her until she sits like a whore.  Maybe just whip her for not being femmed enough.

How about taking her to a convenience store late at night - very scary.  And she has to use her voice to ask for something from behind the counter.  And maybe when she comes out of the store, it would be best for her to walk home - heels clicking - ass swaying...


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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 5:10:08 PM   
curiousub88


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ORIGINAL: MissDs

Forced feminization can be so much more then putting a gurl in lingerie...  Imagine, whipping the gurl until she learns to sit like a lady.. and then when she gets that right - whip her until she sits like a whore.  Maybe just whip her for not being femmed enough.

How about taking her to a convenience store late at night - very scary.  And she has to use her voice to ask for something from behind the counter.  And maybe when she comes out of the store, it would be best for her to walk home - heels clicking - ass swaying...




now i like that kind of forced fem. Can be humiliating to a degree, and teaches the sub, rather than just for the enjoyment of humiliating him.

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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 7:55:36 PM   
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Forced feminization can be so much more then putting a gurl in lingerie...  Imagine, whipping the gurl until she learns to sit like a lady.. and then when she gets that right - whip her until she sits like a whore.  Maybe just whip her for not being femmed enough.

How about taking her to a convenience store late at night - very scary.  And she has to use her voice to ask for something from behind the counter.  And maybe when she comes out of the store, it would be best for her to walk home - heels clicking - ass swaying...


........and maybe while you are at it, you can get the "gurl" raped by some scumbag while she is walking home with her "heels clicking-ass swaying", while you, her Mistress runs screaming in fright like a little girl? Oh boy, how fun would that be?
Whip her til she learns how to sit like a lady?
Whip her til she learns how to sit like a whore?
Whip her because she is not femmed enough?

Too much whipping for my taste, but oh well, not my "gurl"  so I suppose I shouldn't worry about her safety as she does all the things you have ordered her to do, without a thought to her own welfare.

MoGa



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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 8:22:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler

I'm going to do a pro fashion shoot over the summer, and when I do, I'll post a few on my profile so you can see what I mean!!


i look forward to seeing them

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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 9:53:15 PM   
SubJordanTyler


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ORIGINAL: MissDs

Forced feminization can be so much more then putting a gurl in lingerie...  Imagine, whipping the gurl until she learns to sit like a lady.. and then when she gets that right - whip her until she sits like a whore.  Maybe just whip her for not being femmed enough.

How about taking her to a convenience store late at night - very scary.  And she has to use her voice to ask for something from behind the counter.  And maybe when she comes out of the store, it would be best for her to walk home - heels clicking - ass swaying...





Now this is where the two personas come into play.  I can guarantee you that Alexis would never go for this.  She's too much of a lady to be a sub and to get forced into anything - unless it was some play fun.  And she can be a whore, but it pretty much stays in the bedroom........unless she was out just flirting a bit for fun.

But as for myself, I would easily submit to being forced into doing those things, including getting "raped" like was suggested, for the humiliation factor.  That can be done to me, but not to Alexis.  She'd fight back.  *LOL*

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RE: Feminization - 4/16/2008 9:54:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

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ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler

I'm going to do a pro fashion shoot over the summer, and when I do, I'll post a few on my profile so you can see what I mean!!


i look forward to seeing them



Thanks!!  I appreciate it.  It will take a little time, as I need to get a few things out of the way first, but it will be done - and posted!!

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RE: Feminization - 4/17/2008 4:22:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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ORIGINAL: MissDs

Forced feminization can be so much more then putting a gurl in lingerie...  Imagine, whipping the gurl until she learns to sit like a lady.. and then when she gets that right - whip her until she sits like a whore.  Maybe just whip her for not being femmed enough.

How about taking her to a convenience store late at night - very scary.  And she has to use her voice to ask for something from behind the counter.  And maybe when she comes out of the store, it would be best for her to walk home - heels clicking - ass swaying...


........and maybe while you are at it, you can get the "gurl" raped by some scumbag while she is walking home with her "heels clicking-ass swaying", while you, her Mistress runs screaming in fright like a little girl? Oh boy, how fun would that be?
Whip her til she learns how to sit like a lady?
Whip her til she learns how to sit like a whore?
Whip her because she is not femmed enough?

Too much whipping for my taste, but oh well, not my "gurl"  so I suppose I shouldn't worry about her safety as she does all the things you have ordered her to do, without a thought to her own welfare.

MoGa




Well not crazy about being 'raped', but maybe thats me, i'm timid when it comes to sex. This lady will be carrying pepper spray.

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