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RavenMuse -> What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:00:52 AM)

.....your banter extends into being puppyish and your Master smiles and tells you to be careful about going where you might not want to go.

.... When after a couple more days of occassional 'bouncy puppy' your master buys a dog bowl and leaves it sat on top of the fridge

.... when you start getting worried and asking "You wouldn't REALLY make Me eat dog food would you" to which He replies "you trust that I wouldn't HARM you. If I tell you to do something you WOULD do it!"

....your Master points out that it only take Him a matter of seconds to nip to the corner shop and you'd never know if He had bought a tin of Dog food without you knowing

.... When one lunchtime you are told to prepair lunch but not eat it till told to

.... When lunch is prepaired, put to one side and you are told to strip and kneel, waiting on Him like a good little puppy whilst He fetches something from the kitchen

.... When a bowl full of dogfood is put down in front of you and the order comes "EAT!"

.... you really do try your best, dispite gagging and manage to eat at least some of it before breaking into tears

.... He calms you, telling you that He is proud of the effort you made. Proud that you trust in the fact that He would NEVER do anything that would HARM you and that you were to go to the fridge, take out the can containing the rest of the dogfood and check the lable, telling Him what on there could possibly be harmful?

What do you think when the only can in the fridge is a can of steak pie filling [:D]


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Now the REAL Question.....

No matter what you think reality is, no matter what things may seem... do you really trust in the fact that your Dom/Master wouldn't cause you harm?

I know My girl does.... even if she does think I am an evil bastard [;)]





BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:08:49 AM)

"WOOF"........ sorry Raven, I couldn't resist. [;)]

I can honestly say that I do trust that He would never harm me - not intentionally anyway. 

I trust Him with my mind, I trust Him with my body, I trust Him with my heart....... I trust Him with my life.  [sm=hearts.gif]  Ooooooooooo now I feel all warm and fuzzy. [;)]



metalmiss -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:09:27 AM)

[sm=bowdown.gif] ... behold the scary, scary Man ... Well.. i'm scared at least.



BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:18:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: metalmiss

[sm=bowdown.gif] ... behold the scary, scary Man ... Well.. i'm scared at least.



Aaaaah ooooooooooooooo bad puppy, no biscuit. [sm=shame.gif]


[;)]



GreedyTop -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:32:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

"WOOF"........ sorry Raven, I couldn't resist. [;)]

I can honestly say that I do trust that He would never harm me - not intentionally anyway. 

I trust Him with my mind, I trust Him with my body, I trust Him with my heart....... I trust Him with my life.  [sm=hearts.gif]  Ooooooooooo now I feel all warm and fuzzy. [;)]


yep, I agree.  I know Riff would never harm me... (yay for warm fuzzies!!!!)



LaTigresse -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:33:37 AM)

But, there actually might have been dog food in the bowl were it in my house. Then again, I am evil like that........[:D]



ownedgirlie -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:34:01 AM)

I trust he never intends or wants to harm me.  I trust he is human and might err sometimes.  I trust he will work us through it when he does.

As for dog bowls and eating from them, and waiting on the floor at his feet while he eats (the best part is when he pats my head and hands me a bite of food as a treat), and opening my  mouth to whatever he wants to put in it...yes, that has happened with some regularity.  He once told me he'd be feeding me dog food and I asked if he would consider vegitarian dog food, to which he howled with laughter. 

When he returned from errands later that day, I offered him a pack of rawhide bones to feed me if he wished, to show I would do so and wasn't just grumbling.  He smiled, said I was a good girl, and said he had no intention of feeding that crap to me.

He doesn't promise no harm.  We take risks in our dynamic which could possibly cause harm.  Hell, sky diving could cause harm, right?  Driving a car could cause harm.  He does say he wants me to be happy and healthy, and I know he takes great care with the risks he presents.  I also know I am obligated to say when I am distressed or think I'm in danger.  With that combination, all is well.



metalmiss -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:36:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

But, there actually might have been dog food in the bowl were it in my house. Then again, I am evil like that........[:D]


Me too which is one reason she was convinced that is WAS dog food [:D]



metalmiss -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:39:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
He doesn't promise no harm.  We take risks in our dynamic which could possibly cause harm.  Hell, sky diving could cause harm, right?  Driving a car could cause harm.  He does say he wants me to be happy and healthy, and I know he takes great care with the risks he presents.  I also know I am obligated to say when I am distressed or think I'm in danger.  With that combination, all is well.


Likewise, what I say has the proviso that there is risk in all We do, but she trusts in the fact that I assess and minimise risk of harm. Trusts that she is important to Me and that I don't take 'stupid' risks with her wellbeing, beit physical, emotional or mental.



RavenMuse -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:41:30 AM)

Bugger, caught out again... those two where of course ME! Grrrrrrr keep getting caught out by the fact that Us switching over profiles on the other side doesn't always change them on this side.



Daddyslilpookie -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:43:01 AM)

Absolutely, I trust my Master with my life, his job is to protect me from harm and keep me out of harms way[:)].



littleone35 -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 9:46:37 AM)

Master would never do anything that would intentionally harm me.  I trust with my heart and life.

Matt's littleone



littlebitxxx -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 11:26:45 AM)

One word for you, RavenMuse:   mindfuck!!!!    That was a good one.  [:D]



DesFIP -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 12:08:45 PM)

He wouldn't do anything that elaborate. If I'm feeling playful and he isn't, he just tells me to cool it and I do.
He doesn't set me up to fail by not telling me to stop and then punishing me because I didn't do what he didn't tell me not to do.

And we don't do mindfucks here. I lose trust in those situations. And he doesn't want me to stop trusting him.



jenara -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 12:42:25 PM)

i would do it but then i'm sure i'd know if it were dog food as i'm a dog owner ;) that having been said i thought the regulations on dog food changed not that long ago and it now has to be made fit for human consumption.



RavenMuse -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 12:48:41 PM)

If you can see any "Set up to fail" in there then they are coming from your own imagination and lack of understanding...

As for loss of trust, quite the opposite in a Dynamic of this nature. Whatever the percieved situation, My girl still had the trust in MY judgement and duty of care to try... she knows that so long as she genuinly trys 100% then there is no such thing as 'fail' as all I expect of her is her best.

The fact that she DOES trust Me is why We can indulge in 'mindfucks' like this without any risk to the relationship because at all times she knows I take care of what is Mine. I Own her Mind, body and soul and there is no sacred cows, no area I can't work with or even play with because of her trust in who and what I am.



OmegaG -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 12:53:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlebitxxx

One word for you, RavenMuse:   mindfuck!!!!    That was a good one.  [:D]


yes, I can say that I enjoyed reading it.



DesFIP -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 12:58:54 PM)

Sorry Raven, you're setting it up as a punishment for something you didn't tell her not to do. That's a set up for failure in my book. If you don't want her acting in this way, then tell her not to.

Now if you come home and announce that you think it'll be fun for you to eat this fine steak while she eats dogfood that's something else. It's still emotional sadism and we don't go in for s & m, so it isn't something that would occur here.

But you've presented it as a consequence for doing something you deliberately refused to tell her not to do. Sometimes he likes it when I'm playful and sometimes he isn't in the mood for it. He tells me which mood he's in because I never said I could read his mind.



SassySarijane -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 1:05:12 PM)

I can't see in the OP where it was a punishment for/or something he didn't want her to do, but refused to say so. I reread the OP 4 times trying to see that. I saw it as a mindfuck that was inspired by her puppy behavior, not punishment. Please correct me if I'm wrong RavenMuse.



RavenMuse -> RE: What would you think when... (4/15/2008 1:05:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Sorry Raven, you're setting it up as a punishment for something you didn't tell her not to do. That's a set up for failure in my book. If you don't want her acting in this way, then tell her not to.

Now if you come home and announce that you think it'll be fun for you to eat this fine steak while she eats dogfood that's something else. It's still emotional sadism and we don't go in for s & m, so it isn't something that would occur here.

But you've presented it as a consequence for doing something you deliberately refused to tell her not to do. Sometimes he likes it when I'm playful and sometimes he isn't in the mood for it. He tells me which mood he's in because I never said I could read his mind.


As I said.... a total lack of understanding.

Where in there was ANY mention of punishment? Was there ANY impression that I didn't wish the 'puppy' elements to be expressed... or where they in fact indulged... just taken out of her hands and indulged in a manner and way of MY choosing?

Don't try and teach your grandfather to suck eggs. You haven't a CLUE about a dynamic of this nature which has been clear in other misguided comments in the past.

Someone can be stretched, their limits tested and it still be play..... I don't play 'punishment games' and don't need to fabricate an excuse if I want to cane My girl or whatever. DISCIPLINE is dealt with differently and isn't/wasn't a factor in the play We had earlier today.

If it was 'about' anything other than fun... it was 'about' TRUST [:)]



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