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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 4:07:30 AM

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Repeated miscarriages can lead to infertility.

I do believe they are harmless if it is a hoax. She faked the entire thing.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 4:12:21 AM

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Repeated miscarriages can lead to infertility.

I do believe they are harmless if it is a hoax. She faked the entire thing.

Sssshhhhh Katy.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 4:13:52 AM

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I've always been sceptical of conceptual art because one doesn't need to see and contemplate the actual physical art work, the idea is far more important, the actual physical piece of visual art is merely evidence on the idea. Such works tend to cause a visceral reaction but one would expect a visceral reaction but its not so much a reaction to the art work as a reaction to the process of aborting (or whatever the artist is doing). I'll wait until I see the work to make a final judgement but somehow I fail to see how it can be good art.

As for her aborting, I don't see anything morally wrong in what she is doing, I just see her as wrong headed for endangering her own health.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 4:18:24 AM

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It seems her mission is working, the controversy has already begun.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 4:21:18 AM

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Ok, the first thing I thought was, her bubbles aint floatin to the top, its definitely not a sign of someone playing with a full deck.
Then the logistics of it crept into my mind, like how the hell did she work this out to get pregnant on a regular basis,
how long had she had to plan it out,
I know people at yale are "smart" but how did she plan it down so finely, down to the "fabricators( sperm donors),
did she have accurate timing of her ovulation , every hit was a pregnancy????(IM sure people at IVF would love her secret, (a turkey baster and some collected sperm and perfect timing)
how long into it did she find out she was pregnant, How far into each "pregnancy" was she before she aborted it.
how many times did she do it. Let alone go taping herself aborting..so many question marks there.
But all for naught, its a fake, shes a fake, shes not terribly bright altho its got people talking, at the end of the day, she is one person I would be happy to not hear about ever again.
Pretty much like the doofus who planted a sculpture of a bomb outside an art museum here in TO last year,
http://www.thestar.com/GTA/Crime/article/281429
definitely candidates for twats of the year
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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 6:00:44 AM

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The latest news about this is that it wasn't news at all. As usual, the crazy little world of the Internet fell for a badly reported story and believed everything they were told.

The easiness with which we knee-jerk at the first controversial story we hear is troubling. What the fuck happened to being informed? Are we so easily manipulated that we believe the first crazy thing we hear? It's worrying, when I imagine the propaganda we fall for on a daily basis.

To those who called for the fire of hell to fall on this woman, I hope you're repenting

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Anyway, here is the Google page where you will find the links that demonstrate that this was a hoax/scam/lie/bullshit... and nothing else than that.

For fuck's sake.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 6:46:10 AM

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Perhaps someone should tell her the story about the little boy who cried wolf.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 6:51:14 AM

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Somebody probably already has. One thing's for sure: her credibility has gone down the toilet.

She's done nothing terribly wrong, however.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 6:54:51 AM

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I wouldn’t say wrong, it’s not in my vocabulary under these conditions.

At least, if she is telling the truth the second time, what she did was only to herself.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 12:35:28 PM

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What's blue and flies around the room at high speeds?
A baby with a punctured lung.

How many babies does it take to paint a house?
Depends how hard you throw them.

What is better than a dead baby?
The revoked child-support.

What do you call a dead baby with no arms and no legs hanging on your wall?
Art.

I know art when I see it.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 12:48:43 PM

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she certainly had her 15 minutes.
Not what I"D want to be known for though

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 12:54:41 PM

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There must be something in the water in New Haven.

i am guessing sperms

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:01:02 PM

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Sssshhhhh Katy.

I know. I can't believe I tried to derail the train wreck.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:25:22 PM

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I dont know who is dumber the "artist" or the rabid pro-lifers who scream life begins at conception.

Given the natural course of things a fetus will never turn into a shoe, or a desk...
Oh, and I'm not screaming; just stating a fact.

But by that logic me having sex with another person while using a condom is just as bad.
Not trying do defend this woman.
Not in this particular case but I dont see how people can view a clump of cells as a human being.
I can understant when the fetus is in 2nd or 3rd trimester.
But when you say "life begins at conception" it boggles my mind.
But is all "morals" so I guess the only thing we can do is agree to disagree?

I disagree. Before an egg is fertilized it is only an egg. Keeping the sperm from fertilizing the egg is not nearly the same as flushing a fetus.
And yes, we can agree to disagree.
But I find this very sad, and have to agree with everything Miss Frillypants said.
No matter where you stand on this issue, it's just sad.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:35:26 PM

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Somebody probably already has. One thing's for sure: her credibility has gone down the toilet.

She's done nothing terribly wrong, however.

Her "art experiment" appeared to cause some heartache just on these boards. Seems to me she brought up painful memories for lots of people.

I guess that's art, huh?

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:45:26 PM

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Yes, that's art. To cause a stir, to affect people, to make them think: that's art.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:47:25 PM

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Her "art experiment" appeared to cause some heartache just on these boards. Seems to me she brought up painful memories for lots of people.

Crime of the century? Please.

It is some people's choice in life to feel disgruntled. I doubt she did it as a joke she did it with serious intent, maybe you should start a class action against her? Your logic is kind of strange when people could easily argue the same emotional distress could be brought up by any kind of abortion news item.

I’ve decreed all car accident scenes in movies should be scraped due to the emotional distress it causes survivors of such accident. The truth of the matter is a lot of people demonised her without bothering to read the background and thinking of the ridiculousness of it and now they feel like fools and are looking for an excuse for their initial reaction.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:50:37 PM

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Exactly. People can choose to be affected and offended by everything that's in the public sphere if they so choose, but what's the point of it, if it's not to wallow in one's misery?

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:56:26 PM

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i haven't had the strength to read the whole thread, so i apologize if someone has already posted this:

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As an intervention into our normative understanding of .the real. and its accompanying politics of convention, this performance piece has numerous conceptual goals. The first is to assert that often, normative understandings of biological function are a mythology imposed on form. It is this mythology that creates the sexist, racist, ableist, nationalist and homophobic perspective, distinguishing what body parts are .meant. to do from their physical capability. The myth that a certain set of functions are .natural. (while all the other potential functions are .unnatural.) undermines that sense of capability, confining lifestyle choices to the bounds of normatively defined narratives. Just as it is a myth that women are .meant. to be feminine and men masculine, that penises and vaginas are .meant. for penetrative heterosexual sex (or that mouths, anuses, breasts, feet or leather, silicone, vinyl, rubber, or metal implements are not .meant. for sex at all), it is a myth that ovaries and a uterus are .meant. to birth a child. When considering my own bodily form, I recognize its potential as extending beyond its ability to participate in a normative function. While my organs are capable of engaging with the narrative of reproduction . the time-based linkage of discrete events from conception to birth . the realm of capability extends beyond the bounds of that specific narrative chain. These organs can do other things, can have other purposes, and it is the prerogative of every individual to acknowledge and explore this wide realm of capability.

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RE: Yale student induces miscarriages as an art project - 4/18/2008 1:58:06 PM

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She didn't hurt me, so I'd have no action against her.
I do think you shouldn't go out of your way to hurt others even if you can.
Crime of the century?
Hardly.
In extremely poor taste, unartistic, and not even artful in execution?
Absolutely.

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