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DV8fromthenorm -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/18/2008 9:21:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SubJordanTyler

It's both for me - depending on the situation.  If one person, or a couple of people, are standing over me and just letting it fly and pissing all over my face and head and body..........it's humiliating.  But if I'm drinking it.......either right from the source or even from a glass........it's intimate because I'm taking part of my domme inside of me and carrying her with me.  That can be pretty powerful.  And as far as the humiliation.........it makes no difference........male or female........who pisses on me.  For the more intimate aspect, it needs to be my domme.


I understand completely where you are coming from Subjordan, thank you for your honesty with that posting.



themischievous1 -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/18/2008 11:24:41 PM)

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I'm interested in hearing from both subs and doms,  their experience  and their perspective on this.  Being a sub, I find it humuliating, but that is what turns me on.  I wonder who receives more pleasure from the scene, the master of the slave?  Interested in hearing what the majority of the BDSM community's opinions are on this topic. 


In the past as a submissive, I found the experience humbling and almost spiritual in some respects. It was an exchange that was passionate, extremely intimate, and something that has been a rare thing to share with another. I don't recall feeling more submissive than when I felt his fluid running over my skin, heating it up and stinging across it gently.

When I'm on the other side of the fence and am giving this gift of myself to another, I do expect that the one I choose will treasure it just as much as I did when I was in the submissive position. [;)]

Mmm..yes. Watersports are definitely going to be a part of what I enjoy in the future.



puppy4owner -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/18/2008 11:44:12 PM)

well i know everyone is different but i just dont get the whole peeing on or being peed on thing-so many better things to do-i will say the diaper thing is starting to sound very interesting,but peeing on or being peed on sounds messy,smelly and boring to me.oh,and maybe a little unhealthy-ya ya its sterile-whatever



BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 10:08:55 AM)

Whether taking it in my mouth and swallowing it, or Him just peeing all over me and marking His territory, it isn't humiliating to me........ it's HOT and puts me in a lovely headspace.   The funny thing is that my dog (137lb male Akita) took exception to some other male marking His mom, and when I got home, we were sitting outside and he kept sniffing me.  Finally, he lifted his leg and peed on my leg.  It was funny as hell!  [:D]

The hardest thing for me was being able to pee in front of Him.  It took a while for me to be able to relax and do that....... especially with Him standing in front of me...... waiting.  LOL! [;)]



Sundowner -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 10:29:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I think it depends on the people involved... while (as a bottom) I find it humiliating to a small extent, I also find it to be an incredibly intimate thing that he does for us both.
I know he enjoys it at least as much as I do.
(ok, did I ramble again??)
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968
Being pissed on is extremely dirty in my mind.  The fact that it turns me on as much as it does only makes it mentally dirtier and more erotic.   It's one of those things that just makes my mind run a mile a minute.  It's humiliating, intimate, messy.  I'm rambling because just thinking about it makes the brain go a bit fuzzy. 



Exactly as the clever girls said - humiliating and/or intimate.

Slut girl's favourite game is to be made to clean the bathroom spotless then kneel while I piss over her and then she licks up the excess (tiled floor). For her it's all humiliation. Soft girl's favourite though is for us to get into large plastic bag and piss over each other and have me fool around with her, lying together in warm, wet intimacy. Totally different mindsets. Both huge fun [sm=smile.gif] .

And a link for beautiful Aileen, in case her "messy" comment means some aspects of ws can be annoying; the perfect toy is the large plastic bag of which I speak. (And a friend of yours Aileen can attest to the delightfully sensuous nature of the material (not, I hasten to add, from experience inside it!)).  Enjoy [;)]




ownedgirlie -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 12:20:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel
The funny thing is that my dog (137lb male Akita) took exception to some other male marking His mom, and when I got home, we were sitting outside and he kept sniffing me.  Finally, he lifted his leg and peed on my leg.  It was funny as hell!  [:D]


OMG I spewed coffee!!  [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif]



DV8fromthenorm -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 1:20:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

Whether taking it in my mouth and swallowing it, or Him just peeing all over me and marking His territory, it isn't humiliating to me........ it's HOT and puts me in a lovely headspace.   The funny thing is that my dog (137lb male Akita) took exception to some other male marking His mom, and when I got home, we were sitting outside and he kept sniffing me.  Finally, he lifted his leg and peed on my leg.  It was funny as hell!  [:D]

The hardest thing for me was being able to pee in front of Him.  It took a while for me to be able to relax and do that....... especially with Him standing in front of me...... waiting.  LOL! [;)]


I just had to comment on the dog thing, well they say dogs have a great sense of smell, etc, so it makes sense.  I have to say your reply made for some enlightening afternoon reading.   Next time I engage in WS, I will make sure my dog is at the doggie day care center.



GreedyTop -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 1:22:57 PM)

LOL Dv8 :) or at least, make sure you've showered with deodorant soap before you see him again! LOL



Tigrita -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 2:09:00 PM)

I've never experienced this, but I've been thinking about it lately.  I think I'd enjoy it and get a very peaceful, surrendering, cathartic relase from it.  I enjoy kind of cathartic humiliation, I think because I tend to *figuratively* let people 'piss on me' in a destructive way and I find it a big challenge to stand up for myself sometimes.  Surrendering to humiliation in a safe way with someone I trust, and not having to worry about how to prevent it or remedy it or get my self-respect back (because it is already there because I know they do respect me despite the act of humiliation that is happening).  So literally having them piss on me might take me to that place I like. 

Unfortuantely I don't think Damien would enjoy doing it.  When the topic comes up off hand he says he hasn't enjoyed it in the past.  I have trouble bringing myself to ask for something my dominant partner doesn't enjoy, because a lot of my enjoyment comes from them wanting to do it to me; their will and all.  

Thanks for the great thread, great reading, and one of the longest threads I've seen that actually stayed on topic and didn't turn into a pissing match (pun intended heehee).

~ Tigrita



Tantriqu -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 2:22:46 PM)

It's one of the few negotiables, but no sub I have discussed this with has demured, and a few initiated the discussion.
I have a little toy that permits My urinating standing, so it can be 'marking territory' if someone has come on to him in public [never his initiation, since if it were, he'd be dumped on the spot!], or temperature play, or with him kneeling in the tub after corporal punishment.   Very powerful.  With one sub we had the discussion of my inserting my toy and releasing in him, but never got beyond the hot discussion. 

My last sub loved drinking after he'd performed long oral sex sessions; after I'd had a few orgasms and I was ready to go to sleep, he'd gently and rhythmically suck on my urethra and beg me to release; very erotic. 



DV8fromthenorm -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 3:21:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tigrita

Thanks for the great thread, great reading, and one of the longest threads I've seen that actually stayed on topic and didn't turn into a pissing match (pun intended heehee).

~ Tigrita


Tigrita,  Thanks for the compliment, I put some thought into this before I posted it and was somewhat hesitant, but I'm glad I did.  Glad you enjoyed and I agree, great reading.   DV8 



Lordandmaster -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 3:26:27 PM)

Dogs always have a way of knowing exactly what's going on, don't they?

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel
The funny thing is that my dog (137lb male Akita) took exception to some other male marking His mom, and when I got home, we were sitting outside and he kept sniffing me.  Finally, he lifted his leg and peed on my leg.  It was funny as hell!  [:D]


OMG I spewed coffee!!  [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif]



DV8fromthenorm -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 5:40:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Dogs always have a way of knowing exactly what's going on, don't they?

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LOL, Lordandmaster, this is so true,  excuse me..... I have use the restroom.  :-)



Prinsexx -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 5:46:20 PM)

My ex master was the only one from whom I was able to fully drink all of his piss.
That was beautiful. Everything about it was just perfect.
I miss that and I miss him doing that.
It's a rare memory and one I shall never forget.
We never sat down and discussed what  and how he felt. He just wasn't the kind of master (I almost said wan't a kinsdMsaster which was also true)...anyway he was't the kind to give feedback and/or after care.



Insatiable4Black -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 5:49:44 PM)

WS are an intimate way of marking me.  I have been the recipient of urine in my mouth - made to swallow it.  The first time was fine - he drank tons of pineapple juice and water during the day - to prepare for me.  The second time - umm not so much.  Never again - for the drinking part. 
 
As for the marking - the act of being peed on.. is sexy as hell... it is NOT humiliating.. I feel owned, protected and possessed.  I miss this part of a relationship very much.



DV8fromthenorm -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 7:04:28 PM)

After starting this thread and reading all through the posts, I have gained so much insight into this from hearing other peoples experiences.  The one thing that I keep hearing repeated, is a "marking of their territory".   I understand this now, however never gave it a thought in the past.  Just makes the whole act more exciting, erotic and intimate to me.    Thanks for enlightening me on that.  
DV8.



Passion357 -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 8:00:44 PM)

Greetings, All,

I never found it much of a big deal. This lifestyle *makes* it a big deal. The way I was raised it was funny as hell to be swimming at the river, wrap your legs around your SO, and get all cuddly laughing and talking and such... and then burst out laughing when they suddenly look at you like WTF why did it get so warm... It was funny for everyone. If the person you intended to do this to did not think it was funny, ya didn't do it. Peeing while someone else talked to you and put on their make-up was no big deal. Bathroom use in general while I was growing up was often interupted by someone talking to you through the door while you were busy.
It took years for me to understand this was a kink and a very private thing for some people. The first time someone asked me "Did that bother you?" when my chain-sister and I were having a conversation and she went into the bathroom, kept the door open, and peed like I wasn't there, save the fact the conversation went on like normal, I was shocked at the question. "Was it supposed to bother me?" was all I could say.

I've been ritualistically peed on and I have been the pee-er. Wait... is that peeE and peeEr...hehe. It would be kinky to me to wear the pee for hours. Kinky, disgusting, unhealthy, unsanitary...etc etc.

Hmmm ok read the entire thread before I posted *grin* smart I know...
As far as humiliation.. erm I know Master has control over me, any time he wishes this feeling, and often when he probably isn't even thinking of me. No need to force me to pee in a diaper to prove or play with the fact that he controls and I am controlled. Diapers are associated with babies. Babies are not out of control. They haven't been trained yet. Perhaps if it were used as a tool of punishment it would be humbling or humiliating. But then again ANY tool he uses as such can be if he so desires.

A direct answer to the Subject of the OP "Are WS an act of humiliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters?"
Apparently-both.
And then some [&:]

Well Wishes,
~Passion~



Constrictor1 -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 8:35:58 PM)

I only read the first page of responses. I will say this is MY OPINION ONLY. I do not choose to do WS or scat play! Period. While I am not a clean freak I am a little fastidious about personal hygeine. Just my choice. I can find PLENTY of other ways to humiliate someone.

Constrictor1



Leatherist -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 8:46:25 PM)

Then I guess I won't tell you the diapergirl story. [:D]



Lordandmaster -> RE: Are WS an act of humuliation for sub or a passionate gift from masters? (4/19/2008 9:06:35 PM)

Actually, urine is probably a lot less dirty than jizm.

Just sayin'.  "Hygiene" isn't always rationally evaluated.

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ORIGINAL: Constrictor1

I do not choose to do WS or scat play! Period. While I am not a clean freak I am a little fastidious about personal hygeine.



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