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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 4:57:03 PM   
xxblushesxx


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I have a friend who is bi-polar and who also suffers from depression. If most of us who know her hadn't talked her out of her ideas of what would get her out of her depression...she'd probably be dead by now. She doesn't have much 'look out for yourself' when she is manicing.

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:01:53 PM   
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You do realize it is impossible to be bipolar and have depression, right?

Bipolar IS a form of depression. You can't have it twice. o.O

After all, it used to be called manic depression before the term Bipolar started being used. :3

I, myself, have been diagnosed with clinical depression. x.x

It's VERY different from being bipolar. *loves psychology and studies it constantly*


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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:04:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Idk...
I have a friend who is bi-polar and who also suffers from depression. If most of us who know her hadn't talked her out of her ideas of what would get her out of her depression...she'd probably be dead by now. She doesn't have much 'look out for yourself' when she is manicing.


I wouldn’t suggest the same course of action for someone who is only depressed, compared to someone whom also is bi-polar.
 
There is someone here where I live, who is bi-polar, and doesn’t take care of herself. Last year she managed to kill her five yr old in a car accident, driving like an idiot. Seems she didn’t care about herself or anyone else either.
 
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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:08:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, but the questions asked reminded me of someone who is manicking. (wrong spelling I know)
A LOT.
And Ophelia, I think I'd disagree with that in a way.
I'm not sure that medically it's possible or not possible....but...I have known people who are clinically depressed, people who were on a manic high, and people who were doing both.

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:09:19 PM   
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I wouldn’t suggest the same course of action for someone who is only depressed, compared to someone whom also is bi-polar.
 
There is someone here where I live, who is bi-polar, and doesn’t take care of herself. Last year she managed to kill her five yr old in a car accident, driving like an idiot. Seems she didn’t care about herself or anyone else either.
 
k


That's horrible... and oddly it reminds me of a situation that happened around here personally. x.x

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:15:32 PM   
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Yes, but the questions asked reminded me of someone who is manicking. (wrong spelling I know)
A LOT.
And Ophelia, I think I'd disagree with that in a way.
I'm not sure that medically it's possible or not possible....but...I have known people who are clinically depressed, people who were on a manic high, and people who were doing both.


Are you sure they weren't bipolar? People are commonly diagnosed wrongly. My friend, Jessey, was diagnosed to have depression but in reality (after three more doctors tested her) was Bipolar.

--Everyone has highs and lows though. Even you do. Bipolar is when the highs and lows are VERY extreme. They change for no reason whatsoever (there is no trigger) and the periods of the highs or lows can be short or even longer term. Regardless, you could have mistaken their "high" to be something it isn't.

I have depression and sometimes I can become EXTREMELY happy for no reason at all. I can run around hyperly, be giddy and feel on top of the world- but that's part of who I am and no doubt my ADHD is part of it. And are you sure her periods of being high have no reason? Perhaps she didn't tell you the reason she was so happy. Perhaps she didn't know- but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Maybe she was just happy to be around the people she was with or to be receiving attention. There are tons of reasons.

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:16:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		that is untrue..respectfully saying about the depression not being part of bi-polar...i was put in the hospital in nov of last year..with sever depression...to the very point of dispair and looking from a black hole....i have been in therapy now ever since..i have bipolar ..and was told from the doc..that my condition of manic depression,anxiety ,sever panic attacks no sleep on days on in...are the symptoms of bi-polar...my meds are still not right and the above are very much still there..it will always be a struggle in life..i know its not going to make me happy..but a way of life to survive....

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:21:29 PM   
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that is untrue..respectfully saying about the depression not being part of bi-polar...i was put in the hospital in nov of last year..with sever depression...to the very point of dispair and looking from a black hole....i have been in therapy now ever since..i have bipolar ..and was told from the doc..that my condition of manic depression,anxiety ,sever panic attacks no sleep on days on in...are the symptoms of bi-polar...my meds are still not right and the above are very much still there..it will always be a struggle in life..i know its not going to make me happy..but a way of life to survive....


I said it is impossible to have the medical condition of clinical depression and bipolar since they are both depression- just different types. You can't have depression twice at the same time- and since being bipolar is not a conditon that goes away, you can never be diagnosed with clinical depression and be bipolar at the same time. The lows in bipolar include feelings of extreme depression though.

I know where you're coming from. I was diagnosed with clinical depression (it was very severe, too). After all, one does not stop all the functions of living for no reason when they are only but a child. :3 I refuse to take the meds though ever since Lexapro. They kill my brain and change the way I think. They're SUPPOSED to change the way I feel, not think.

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:24:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Yes, but the questions asked reminded me of someone who is manicking. (wrong spelling I know)
A LOT.
And Ophelia, I think I'd disagree with that in a way.
I'm not sure that medically it's possible or not possible....but...I have known people who are clinically depressed, people who were on a manic high, and people who were doing both.


I agree; it definitely depends on what is really going on with them.
 
I’ve hit some extreme lows, mostly in my teens. Thankfully, I am fortunate; some how I managed to keep bouncing back, without permanent damage.
 
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That's horrible... and oddly it reminds me of a situation that happened around here personally. x.x

 
Yes, it is. Even sadder; the women still hasn’t been charged with anything, and walks around unrestricted.
 
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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:27:37 PM   
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I agree; it definitely depends on what is really going on with them.
 
I’ve hit some extreme lows, mostly in my teens. Thankfully, I am fortunate; some how I managed to keep bouncing back, without permanent damage.


Shall I go look it up and bring back evidence, then? =D
 
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Yes, it is. Even sadder; the women still hasn’t been charged with anything, and walks around unrestricted.


Reminds me of my Mum, honestly. My mother could careless about anything unless it has to do with her. x.x She was only upset when she lost her kids because then she lost her health insurance.

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:29:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		hugs to you ophe...its a struggle daily to get out of bed..cant work..i feel non productive...i have a wonderful Dom that is trying so hard to help..this is something that isnt something that someone can make happiness istantly..my family doesnt get it at all...i have a 12 year son..thats had a shitty year with his mom having such probles..i do still feel lost..but i do think for me that is that i can only survive with the meds..i was on lexapro..but it didnt mix at all with lithum and limictral...if i spelled it right..and these meds are so expenisve to say the least..but i am sorry i read your post wrong..my heart goes out to anyone who suffers depression and all that go with it...

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:38:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: angelwithhonor

hugs to you ophe...its a struggle daily to get out of bed..cant work..i feel non productive...i have a wonderful Dom that is trying so hard to help..this is something that isnt something that someone can make happiness istantly..my family doesnt get it at all...i have a 12 year son..thats had a shitty year with his mom having such probles..i do still feel lost..but i do think for me that is that i can only survive with the meds..i was on lexapro..but it didnt mix at all with lithum and limictral...if i spelled it right..and these meds are so expenisve to say the least..but i am sorry i read your post wrong..my heart goes out to anyone who suffers depression and all that go with it...


Don't worry about it. It happens, we are humans, after all. :3 Depression is horrible. I've been suffering from it since I was nine- that's ten years now. They decided there might be something wrong with me when I tried to cut my throat as a child. >.>; I've killed those habits, thankfully. I used to take Lexapro as well- the maximum healthy dosage, actually. It worked, at first. The first six months were great, I felt so much better.... and then after that, I crashed lower than I even have been before. It was almost like an energy drink, in a sense.  Anyway, I take nothing at all now and every day is a struggle. I don't give up though. I have someone whom relies on me and I refuse to let them down.

So, I know a lot of what you are going through. Oh, and, if you ever need anyone to talk to, I'm always here.

~Opheliac (This is a joint account, by the way. I'm the Opheliac- the one with the blue and green hair atop my natural red hair.)


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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:43:25 PM   
angelwithhonor


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Status: offline 		dito to you also..am here for anyone who needs to talk..hugssssssssss.....

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:45:16 PM   
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dito to you also..am here for anyone who needs to talk..hugssssssssss.....


Thank you, I appreciate it. Would you mind if I sent a friend request to you?

(I ask because I know how annoying it is to recieve them from people you don't know.)



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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:53:48 PM   
xxblushesxx


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Status: offline 		Usually I can call a bi-polar personality even though I am not a medical professional.
I can see it.
I can see where someone can say bi-polar and depression are the same thing. Except sometimes they look and feel different.
But...at the same time...bi-polar adds another dimension to the depression, and treatment will be different.
I was answering the questions asked, and what I thought I was dealing with...which was both bi-polar (after my first answer) and depression (from the first question)

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 5:59:07 PM   
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Is that a BDSM session, or a session with the shrink? ...


*grins*
 
BDSM.
 
It is actually kind of strange. Up until I got into D/s, I always felt as if I were just below boiling point. Any little thing that came along and I'd start to "boil over".
 
After the first few sessions with my fist Dom, almost all of that went away.
 
Of course, not having one for awhile, puts me right back where I started. I think I have a lot of pent up energy that I have no natural way of getting rid of.
 
It also gives me a short break from the constant thinking.
 
k


Yikes... a fist Dom sounds awful scary... I hate to think what he does, and where he puts his fists...

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 6:43:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not for nothing, but I've been a psych nurse for about 13 years, someone describing their feelings as numb, I would say probably is depressed.  If the feelings continue they should seek medical advice whether that be counseling or medications.  Believe me, half of the world is on anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medications or mood stabilizers.  So much more common than the average person would think.   Just my two cents......

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 6:45:03 PM   
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You do realize it is impossible to be bipolar and have depression, right?

Bipolar IS a form of depression. You can't have it twice. o.O

After all, it used to be called manic depression before the term Bipolar started being used. :3

I, myself, have been diagnosed with clinical depression. x.x

It's VERY different from being bipolar. *loves psychology and studies it constantly*




There is a situation where the line between  bipolar and clinical depression becomes blurred, that is a condition called Bipolar 2. The traditional highs and lows of mania are not as common, but the seemingly irrational mood swings exist just the same, but more covertly as to appear  as clinical depression. One can be diagnosed with clinical depression, for it to be in reality bipolar 2. Medication by SSRI seems to work, that is until on a wave of high, the meds are forgotten, and then  a few days and the weirdness starts.  For people that do live on their own, often it is they through no fault of their own, forget the bloody drugs.


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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 6:58:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		oh my you have it so right Aneirin..thats actually what i told my doc just last week..that both the bi polar(racing thoughts mind never stopping panic attacks to the point of not able to work)..that the both feel they are come to as one..as if they are battling each other..this is the toughest time i have had...now not working and having to ask for help is even more over whelming..its to the point that i feel i have lost who i am..she knows that she is a submissive but lost who kate used to be..if that makes since...

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RE: Feelings - 4/18/2008 7:07:43 PM   
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oh my you have it so right Aneirin..thats actually what i told my doc just last week..that both the bi polar(racing thoughts mind never stopping panic attacks to the point of not able to work)..that the both feel they are come to as one..as if they are battling each other..this is the toughest time i have had...now not working and having to ask for help is even more over whelming..its to the point that i feel i have lost who i am..she knows that she is a submissive but lost who kate used to be..if that makes since...



The internal battle with neither winning, is a very common thing with this dis ease, and yes, it does become such a strain, all that there is, is to feel lost, yourself, inside yourself and looking out at the  facets of yourself united into two sides and there locked in battle, with no one winning, a sure stalemate. You want to leave the battle scene, but you must stay rooted to the spot, willing a side, whatever side to win and allow you to escape the scene.

If you know what I mean.


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