RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (Full Version)

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Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles?


YES I HAVE
  74% (38)
NO I HAVENOT
  11% (6)
I PLAN TO TRY THEM IN THE FUTURE
  13% (7)
I WILL NEVER USE THEM AGAIN
  0% (0)


Total Votes : 51
(last vote on : 8/8/2016 3:06:55 PM)
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darkinshadows -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/2/2004 4:03:26 PM)

ahhh... but if You could, and You recreated it... what would You do then?*wiggles eyesbrows*

(Hang on... should this be another thread?...lol)




feline -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/2/2004 6:40:51 PM)

Yep, yep, yep! [:D]


A Tip ~ try putting them in the frig before putting them on. Great with chains too*weg*

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Thanatosian -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/3/2004 12:04:35 AM)

in the fridge???? how quaint - now, the FREEZER - mmmmm - works very well with any metal implement (especially speculums[;))[and yes, I do take the worst chill off the speculum before inserting so as to not cause 'tongue against a metal pole in december' syndrome with the speculum in the vagina]) - love the look when the cold metal hits her skin[:D]




xdbeast -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/13/2004 3:34:37 AM)

I absolutely love them....the ultimate in control...




sbmssvkitten -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/13/2004 4:33:58 AM)

bondageeeeeeeee, drools[:D][:)] just steel cuffs are uncomfy after a while as the edges cut in, doesn't mean i don't wana wear them though[;)]




happypervert -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/13/2004 6:41:34 AM)

quote:

US law states that once a person is put into a restraint where they have
zero control and cannot release their selfs if desired it becomes nonconcensual and against the law.


Maybe you should look it up again because this isn't what the 13th Amendment to the constitution states:

quote:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


from: http://www.nps.gov/malu/documents/amend13.htm

Keyword there is "involuntary"; so if you're claiming that voluntary restraint is magically transformed to involuntary because of some law, then you should provide the correct citation. From the looks of it so far, you misunderstand what the law says, and it would be a waste of time for us search out support for your claim.

As for me -- I don't care for steel, but I do very much like using rope. Completely voluntary of course.




Masterh69 -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/13/2004 9:01:24 AM)

Steel cuffs and shackles are wonderful, I highly recommend them.




topcat -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/13/2004 4:06:21 PM)

M. Pervert-

Actually, most States Laws do agree that a person constrained from acting freely cannot give consent.

In NY, 'any reasonable level of restriant' is considered sufficent to abrogate consent, meaning that it need not be inescapable.

Stay warm,
Lawrence




way2fiesty -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/13/2004 11:42:53 PM)

I find the comment "enslavement laws" quite intruiging. I wasnt aware there were such laws.

And as for placing someone in restraints where they are unable to release themselves and have zero control..................if that is against the law, then how do police overcome that little predicament?

As far as I'm aware, the only nonconsensual act is rape or murder. If someone consents to you restraining them, then that remains consensual. Surely as consenting adults we dont need to worry about breaking laws.




topcat -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/14/2004 12:00:54 AM)

quote:

And as for placing someone in restraints where they are unable to release themselves and have zero control..................if that is against the law, then how do police overcome that little predicament?


Midear 2Fiesty-

Well, they don't, sometimes. The law does provide a distinction between 'lawful restraint' and 'unlawful restraint', at least , here in NY, and to my knowlege, most of the States( you 'strines are on you own for this...).

The main differance is that the restraint is applied by a dualy authorised agent of the state ( a police or peace officer) and the the restraintee has been advised of the reason they are being taken into custody, and of their rights as a prisoner.

Stay warm,
Lawrence




kiki blue -> RE: Have You ever used steel cuffs or shackles on sumone or worn steel cuffs or shackles? (8/14/2004 8:05:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: way2fiesty
As far as I'm aware, the only nonconsensual act is rape or murder. If someone consents to you restraining them, then that remains consensual. Surely as consenting adults we dont need to worry about breaking laws.


Yay, you followed me here [:D]

I'm not sure about any laws here for restraint, but I do know that (according to The Courier Mail - the big paper here in Brisvegas) "It is an offence to apply force of any kind to the body of another person without their consent." Which to me says that it's ok to hit someone if they say you can [:)]

And:
quote:

ORIGINAL: topcat
( you 'strines are on you own for this...).


He called us 'Strines. Heehee. I like it when they get it right [:)]




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