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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 9:24:48 AM   
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No, I do not have your stapler.  Where did you  see it last?  <G>

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 9:37:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey now--some people are as powerful or more powerul nude than they are clothed!    Body insecurity is not necessarily a sign of strength or dominance, and nudity is not necessarily an emblem of weakness or vulnerability--this is very heavily culturally constructed and tends to be unique to the individual.  Just as an example:  North American women are not less "free" than Islamic women because they sunbathe in bikinis while Islamic women cringe in a burka.  It's not about how you display your body--it's about who is in control of the display and who is in control of the desire it may or may not generate.

I have had many models and friends who were far more reserved or submissive in clothes of ANY kind than  they were nude.  Bless their exhibitionistic little hearts, dom and sub!    The voyeur in me loves them all.


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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 9:49:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think there is a chance you missed my point and the possibility more than exists that it was my presentation of this point. But I'll redefine a but more bluntly to clearify, just realize I am not making acqusations but simply inquiring.

Nudity is not the challange in my mind, I understand as I said we all use what power we have to control someone or something. a hot body might be that tool to some.

My point was more along the lines of the "dominant" female profiles I see that have a woman hands and knees or shoulders downa and her ass in the air like a bitch in heat. I have trouble finding a sense of power or grace contained within such a pose and frankly that is how I would define a slut.

Some things are almost always conceived as submissive in nature and some of the photos I see on the other side leave me very suspicious as to the claims of the member.

I only bring this out since recognizing a dominant woman was the thread title. I must say though I don't frequent BDSM functions I do attend them and more often than not I don't see domme's presenting themselves in these "slutty" like ways.

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 10:29:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah!  Thanks for the clarification! 

I will now rattle your cage by asking just what you are doing perusing domme profiles, Bull? <G>  But I suspect that your search parameters are set like mine, to gender and age, not orientation, and you have had your eyes bleed by what pops up randomly at signout.  (I know I wish for eyebleach as often as I get a laugh!)

As a possible explanation, I suggest that "slutty" and "sexy" are interchangeable terms in some people's minds.  Since so many male profiles say that they are looking for a slut....is that a bad thing?  I have been approached by men who purely want to be a sex toy, who would be enchanted by a pic of a female looking like a TIGRESS in heat.  



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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 10:40:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I will now rattle your cage by asking just what you are doing perusing domme profiles, Bull?



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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 10:49:56 AM   
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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 11:01:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xBullx
My point was more along the lines of the "dominant" female profiles I see that have a woman hands and knees or shoulders downa and her ass in the air like a bitch in heat. I have trouble finding a sense of power or grace contained within such a pose and frankly that is how I would define a slut.


*grins*  Your ideals of moral virtue and correct female behavior aren't of interest to some of us, hon; we don't care about these petty judgments.  Anyone who has seen how many dogs line up to service a bitch in heat might well wonder which party is "dominant" in that scenario.  And one might note that the female is dominant in some canid species, notably the hyena. 

You can hurl word like "slut" and "bitch" and "slave" all you like--it has no power if a woman does not accept your right to judge her, any more than the insults you throw at a man matter if he doesn't care what you think.    Far as I'm concerend, most men are feelthy, feelthy sluts and couldn't keep their wicks dry alone in the Sahara with no company but a herd of camels.    But do I call them names?

Well, yes.

But only when we're alone. 

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 11:38:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bull! Thank you for the slutty, sexy Domme vision. If one of you Dommes want to own up to that you know how to reach me.

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 4:10:13 PM   
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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 5:04:30 PM   
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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 7:15:50 PM   
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Excuse spelling errors.

Well everyone sees something different when a woman
displays her beauty parts to viewers.  And it is my
opinion that a woman shows off their body because they
know men are weak for it.  They want to tempt you and
they want to tease you.  They want to have fun with
you.  The better they can tease you and play with your
mind the more you will drool for them.    They know
they hold the power because men need/want it.  And
they hold the power because they can say "No".  A big
part of their power comes from their sexuality (among
other powers known to them) and it makes men crazy.

Women have had monuments built for them.  Everything a
man does he does for a woman.  If no woman existed,
men would be lazy poor fat beer belly slugs and women
know they know they got what men want.  Female
sexuality is powerful. When you see a dominant woman
showing off her body parts, she's saying to you she
knows what she has is powerful and she knows you want
what it.    And she is saying "come earn it" if you
think you're worthy.  I think it was Billy Crystal who
said, "Women need a reason to have sex; men just need
a place."


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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 9:46:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		You look like a shopper
You walk like a shopper
You dress like a shopper
But I am so wise
You're a dominate in disguise
Oh yes you are
A dominate in disguise

You fooled me with your bread sticks
Your melons and whipped cream
I see you're a dominate as you look at me
Your shoes have got that gleam

You look like a shopper
You walk like a shopper
You dress like a shopper
But I am so wise
You're a dominate in disguise
Oh yes you are
A dominate in disguise

I know that we are in Walmart
And I'm not so surpised
You must have a profile on Collarme
I see the dominate in your eyes

You look like a shopper
You walk like a shopper
You dress like a shopper
But I am so wise
You're a dominate in disguise
Oh yes you are
A dominate in disguise

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 10:06:03 PM   
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ShaktiSama:  Just as an example:  North American women are not less "free" than Islamic women because they sunbathe in bikinis while Islamic women cringe in a burka. 


A point of dispute in an otherwise excellent post (and set of posts):  You may be projecting your own issues regarding nudity when you assume a woman in a burkha is "cringing".  In fact, there are many traditional Islamic women who relish the freedom that religious dress gives them in that under the burkha (or any other modest clothing) a woman is free to express her sexuality.  Wealthy traditional women in Saud for instance often wear fine lingerie, stockings and heels under their concealing traditional garb.

Also, consider a religion / society so terrified of the power of a woman's sexuality that they cover it up.  And don't diss the Muslims...ever wonder why a nun's habit looks that way?

And, shakti...I'd thought you'd use the term "skyclad" *smile*

E.

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/22/2008 10:15:04 PM   
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*grins*  Your ideals of moral virtue and correct female behavior aren't of interest to some of us, hon; we don't care about these petty judgments.  Anyone who has seen how many dogs line up to service a bitch in heat might well wonder which party is "dominant" in that scenario.  And one might note that the female is dominant in some canid species, notably the hyena. 


AHEM...you go, girl!  And consider that the male canid is extraordinarily vulnerable during coitus...he's locked in, and subject to attack by other males.  The female can do him a lot of damage just by turning hard to either side. Clearly the bitch has the power.  Come to think of it, ever watch a "bull" have sex?  Another interesting shift of power.  He's all hot and randy, but invariably the female just doesn't notice.  Bulls mount, rut, grunt and move on...with NO affect on their "partners".  Indeed, most cows are artificially inseminated because the bull is too sloppy, slow or stupid to do the job right.  hmmmm.

E.

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/23/2008 5:29:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956
A point of dispute in an otherwise excellent post (and set of posts):  You may be projecting your own issues regarding nudity when you assume a woman in a burkha is "cringing". 


The issues being projected are with Islam, not nudity per se.  And the reason I refer to the wearing of a burka as "cringing" is the ideology of rape that is behind the burka, and other "full cover" forms of dress for Islamic women.  The reason these women wear the clothes they do is that fundamentally, their society believes that displaying the body is an invitation to violate the body.  This is the same ideology that motivates Bull's attitude, by the way--he just states a different facet of the same belief.

A lot of patriarchal societies believe that if a woman's body parts are displayed, men are entitled to attack them.  (Actually, in truth most of these societies believe men are entitled to rape women in general; women covering themselves up in public forbids STRANGE men to rape them--but they have no rights of resistance or refusal against the men who own them, i.e., their "husbands".)

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Also, consider a religion / society so terrified of the power of a woman's sexuality that they cover it up.  And don't diss the Muslims...ever wonder why a nun's habit looks that way?


  No, I don't need to wonder why a nun's habit looks that way.  Nuns are castrated priestesses who represent their culture's loathing and ambivalence toward female sexuality in many respects.  They are a means of collaring female spirituality and maintaining female participation in Christian spiritual life--just at a high cost, by allowing them clerical status ONLY in the monastic state, whereas men can fulfill many other more powerful roles.

Symbolically, nuns are married "property", just as Moslem women are--in this case, they just happen to be married to a deity who is basically without functioning genitals, at least according to standard Trinitarian doctrine.

I have no use for any of these Middle Eastern mystery cults, myself.    Too patriarchal.  But people can believe whatever floats their boat, so long as they don't lay their patriarchist horseshit about female sexual "virtue" on women who don't buy into it.

P.S.  As for "skyclad"...I understand the reference and I've certainly attended the rituals, but I prefer to be naked indoors and in select company, myself.    If it comes to public worship, I generally prefer to be "steel-clad" or at least "leather-clad" and honor the Goddess with a sword in my hand.

Takes all kinds to make a world!

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/23/2008 9:24:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello SkatiSama,

What an enlightening post about you personally. I would like you to note that you were the one comparing yourself to dogs.

As far as the insults against men go, the sticks and stones that the majority of women are capable of garner against me won't break these bones so your attempts to render harsh words would also be found quite fruitless. 

I was not here in your venue attempting to insult or irritate, I was told that I explained my question quite well. But that's ok, I suppose we all read into things what we want too. In the taking of it wrongly by some that too may say alot all on it's own.

Since I am sure I had no ill motives to anyone directly or otherwise I would have to say, if something I said offended you, perhaps you might want to explore your own motives. Now that you ladies are getting your bloomers in a bunch I better run or XI might have valid reason to cmail me.

Ohhhh and MsScarlet, where would I possibly begin to kiss your ass, it appears to me that you might quite possibly be all ass.

Have a nice day ladies,

Your favorite manbeast,

Bull


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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

*grins*  Your ideals of moral virtue and correct female behavior aren't of interest to some of us, hon; we don't care about these petty judgments.  Anyone who has seen how many dogs line up to service a bitch in heat might well wonder which party is "dominant" in that scenario.  And one might note that the female is dominant in some canid species, notably the hyena. 

You can hurl word like "slut" and "bitch" and "slave" all you like--it has no power if a woman does not accept your right to judge her, any more than the insults you throw at a man matter if he doesn't care what you think.    Far as I'm concerend, most men are feelthy, feelthy sluts and couldn't keep their wicks dry alone in the Sahara with no company but a herd of camels.    But do I call them names?

Well, yes.

But only when we're alone. 


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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/23/2008 9:34:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually most cows aren't bred this way. Far to many cows for this process, the dairy man might do this more since the cows are little more than milk factories and stand around so enough can shove an arm up. Those that are bred through A.I. are done to hopefully insure the quality of offspring (show cattle most often) because the best of us Bulls don't have time to get to all the wonderful candidates for breeding. But the truth be told even the A.I. cows are then turned to pasture with a bull to insure the job is completed so your theory that the bull can't do it right is rather flawed and in stating it you tarnish your own cedibility in its implementation. But you probably knew that.

I really better get so XI will pass us by in the night.

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ORIGINAL: Emperor1956

Indeed, most cows are artificially inseminated because the bull is too sloppy, slow or stupid to do the job right.  hmmmm.

E.


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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/23/2008 10:41:21 AM   
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Bull:  But the truth be told even the A.I. cows are then turned to pasture with a bull to insure the job is completed so your theory that the bull can't do it right is rather flawed and in stating it you tarnish your own cedibility in its implementation. But you probably knew that.


Not in the past 40 years.  Not in the midwest (the "cradle" of dairy farming).  Putting the stud (or a stud) in with the cows proved to be too expensive, and often caused damage.  Face it, Bull -- bulls are difficult, ornery and expensive, and modern dairy farms (like the 3 doz. or so I've consulted with on land holding issues in the past years) do not have any use for a live male bovine.  Those little tubes of semen and liquid nitrogen tanks have replaced the bull.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but bulls have been rendered obsolete.

E.

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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/23/2008 10:59:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: illbient

I'm wondering if there's any little body language cues that I can use to tell if a women is sexually dominate BEFORE I take her home.  Maybe even before I start talking to her.   It can be difficult to tell in everyday situations.




Ah, yes, I see this question often :)

Look for a playful fire in her eyes - - that is a dead give-away. Also, look for an air of Wholeness, sophistication and confidence about her - it is not hard to miss as it can intimidate even the most burly of men.

One bit of advise: Admire her, but don't try to understand her.


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RE: How to pickout a dominate women in public. - 4/23/2008 12:13:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xBullx
What an enlightening post about you personally. I would like you to note that you were the one comparing yourself to dogs.


Actually, the phrase "bitch in heat" was yours, I'm afraid.  I simply addressed and analyzed your metaphor.    No real offense was taken to that word in particular, and it has long since lost power to offend me; I tend to hear it most from men who are angry and frustrated with a woman who rejects their attempts to control her--socially, sexually or in conversation.

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As far as the insults against men go, the sticks and stones that the majority of women are capable of garner against me won't break these bones so your attempts to render harsh words would also be found quite fruitless. 


The words weren't intended to be harsh, they were intended to be humorous.  And if you wish to return strictly to your point, which is about the image people project versus how that image is perceived by others, we certainly can.

Returning to the example of profile pictures:  you seem to read a "sexy" or "provocative" pose in a female dominant's photo as "submissive" automatically--I would suggest that this is likely due to your own sexual orientation as a male dominant, which causes you to automatically equate sex with female submission.  I, by contrast, am a female dominant, and tend to interpret images differently.  Your own profile photo, for example, displays a massive build and a strapping set of forearms--when you see this image, you consider it male dominant, but when I see it, my first thought is:

"Three more of those and I can sell the Toyota--I'll travel by litter!"

Quite ridiculous, I'm sure you would agree!  But as a female dominant, my perception is shaped from the inside out. 

Enlightening, no? 

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