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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 4:32:51 PM   
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You certainly aren't obligated to see everyone who asks!

My experience at a house of domination was that you pretty much had to do whatever session came in for you. But as an Independent, I refuse clients I have no interest in.

Sometimes they want to explore scenes that either bore or repulse me.
Sometimes you get people who really wan sex, but don't want to pay the high cost that an attractive prostitute would charge: so they call up an attractive Pro Domme and petition for an hour of facesitting and/or "breast worship."
I get requests for dancing and massages. Hour-long foot sessions (which might be great fun for another Domme, but bores me to tears). If I had to take just whoever asked, I'd quit!


Ugh.  Don't know what house you worked at, but I do NOT schedule anyone for "breast worship" sessions, ever.  Face sitting is scheduled only if the domme they want to see agrees to it and only if the client understands that the domme will be wearing underwear that covers everything - not a thong.  Ditto with ass worship.  We don't have people sitting at the dungeon all day for shifts, though, so when someone calls in for a session, I either find out if there's someone specific they want to see and check availability, or I find out what they're into, decide who they'd be most compatable with (sometimes it's me), and double check with that dom/me (we have a male dominant on staff) to see if they're up for it.  If not, no big deal.  We'd make more money if we did things the way the house you worked for was run, but we're pretty happy with our arrangement.  The women that work for me that have worked at other houses say they like our arrangement better, too.

Why on Earth would people ask a dominant for a dance or a massage?  That's just ... we've gotten calls like that, but I refer them to an escort or a strip club or a masseuse. 

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 4:36:06 PM   
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The original question asks can a pro mistress really choose her clients. The answer would have to be a resounding no. She can choose who she does NOT want as her clients, but unfortunately, she's still left with the need to find a client that is first interested in paying for her services. So, the real choice she has is who not to choose, not really who to choose. I've had a large number of proclaimed pro dominants who have contacted me "announcing" their availability for sessions in my area; unfortunately, that doesn't net them a future client, so the choice really remained with the potential client in that circumstance.


Nobody in any industry can choose their clients.  Pro dommes are no different than hairdressers, doctors, restaurants, nightclubs, masseurs or anyone else that way:  we can only see the people who contact us for our services, and turn away those we choose not to see, for whatever reason.  Go, capitalism. 

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 4:37:49 PM   
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Any professional---doctor, lawyer, CPA---has to market him/herself and wait for someone to come to them.  That's the marketplace, regardless of commodity.


You said it so much better.  Wish I'd read through all the responses first. 

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 6:28:27 PM   
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Thanks, Ms Saskia, I was wondering WHERE a pro dominant has to do breast worship sessions...that isn't a house I woudl be working at for long! 

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 8:40:39 PM   
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Ugh. Don't know what house you worked at, but I do NOT schedule anyone for "breast worship" sessions, ever. Face sitting is scheduled only if the domme they want to see agrees to it and only if the client understands that the domme will be wearing underwear that covers everything - not a thong. Ditto with ass worship. We don't have people sitting at the dungeon all day for shifts, though, so when someone calls in for a session, I either find out if there's someone specific they want to see and check availability, or I find out what they're into, decide who they'd be most compatable with (sometimes it's me), and double check with that dom/me (we have a male dominant on staff) to see if they're up for it. If not, no big deal. We'd make more money if we did things the way the house you worked for was run, but we're pretty happy with our arrangement. The women that work for me that have worked at other houses say they like our arrangement better, too.

Why on Earth would people ask a dominant for a dance or a massage? That's just ... we've gotten calls like that, but I refer them to an escort or a strip club or a masseuse.


I don't mean to imply that I did breast worship: just that as an independent, I have to field requests for it. As a house mistress, I mostly had to do the same dull sessions over and over (schoolgirl roleplays, and other things that hold no interest for me). The worst was when someone made a house appointment with me and I walked in to find that he only had "body worship" as an interest. Yeah. Good times.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 8:52:36 PM   
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That would get very boring  after 1 or 2 sessions....


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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/25/2008 10:26:56 PM   
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Ugh. Don't know what house you worked at, but I do NOT schedule anyone for "breast worship" sessions, ever. Face sitting is scheduled only if the domme they want to see agrees to it and only if the client understands that the domme will be wearing underwear that covers everything - not a thong. Ditto with ass worship. We don't have people sitting at the dungeon all day for shifts, though, so when someone calls in for a session, I either find out if there's someone specific they want to see and check availability, or I find out what they're into, decide who they'd be most compatable with (sometimes it's me), and double check with that dom/me (we have a male dominant on staff) to see if they're up for it. If not, no big deal. We'd make more money if we did things the way the house you worked for was run, but we're pretty happy with our arrangement. The women that work for me that have worked at other houses say they like our arrangement better, too.

Why on Earth would people ask a dominant for a dance or a massage? That's just ... we've gotten calls like that, but I refer them to an escort or a strip club or a masseuse.


I don't mean to imply that I did breast worship: just that as an independent, I have to field requests for it. As a house mistress, I mostly had to do the same dull sessions over and over (schoolgirl roleplays, and other things that hold no interest for me). The worst was when someone made a house appointment with me and I walked in to find that he only had "body worship" as an interest. Yeah. Good times.



I was an indie for 10 years or so, then opened up my own house.  Since I do all the screening, I still get all those same requests for stuff you know isn't about BDSM at all. 

Yeah, some stuff gets pretty boring.  It's still more fun than working in an office, though. 

Congrats on going indie!

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 10:53:51 AM   
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Any professional---doctor, lawyer, CPA---has to market him/herself and wait for someone to come to them.  That's the marketplace, regardless of commodity.


In my business (no - I'm not a pro Dom!) we can choose. We're very good at what we do so we don't have to take just anything. But we turn away remarkably little business; maybe 5% absolute tops.

So I was amazed - nay gobsmacked - to hear the ratio of 90% rejects from posters! 

It suggests, even allowing for the fakes, that there's a huge unsatisfied market out there. Which is weird; normally simple supply and demand sort out the ratios so that unfulfilled needs get met reasonably quickly (in economic terms) and the market very roughly levels out.

Are we saying that in this specific specialist area there really is a large surplus of (admittedly not top rate) subs compared with available (pro or non-pro) dommes?


(Ponders late career change - Lynnxz, if you need an agent ....)

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 11:09:00 AM   
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I'm a young pro dom and I have limits to the bdsm activities I offer. So if a sub wants more than I offer I decline his business. Money isn't worth bending my standards or feeling unsafe.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 11:38:57 AM   
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So I was amazed - nay gobsmacked - to hear the ratio of 90% rejects from posters! 

It suggests, even allowing for the fakes, that there's a huge unsatisfied market out there. Which is weird; normally simple supply and demand sort out the ratios so that unfulfilled needs get met reasonably quickly (in economic terms) and the market very roughly levels out.

Are we saying that in this specific specialist area there really is a large surplus of (admittedly not top rate) subs compared with available (pro or non-pro) dommes?

(Ponders late career change - Lynnxz, if you need an agent ....)


Lol, if you do consider changing careers I'll be happy to point my 90% in your direction so you can deal with them!  80% of them are looking for prostitution and the other 10% are looking for brown-showers, human toilet use, or non-prositution sex shows (either solo or with a partner -that they are oh so kind to offer to supply).

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 12:15:00 PM   
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80% of them are looking for prostitution
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It was that group I was amazed by RP. Pro-domme (is that what you mean by prostitution?) these days is not a shameful thing - it's a fun specialist service. And courtesy of the net, it's pretty easy to "set up shop". So I don't get it why, if there's a market out there, a demand, it's not been supplied.

You could say that the pro-dommes who post here will be significantly more "sophisticated" than most others, thus able to be more selective. But that doesn't change the mysterious supply/demand ratio.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 3:40:23 PM   
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My acception process is very stringent, so I only ever accept those for session, that gel with my interests.

I am very selective, especially regarding manners and ettiquette, so I do refuse more enquiries then I accept.

Why waste my energies on a sub that is partially suitable, whether they are my professional clientele or lifestyle, none tribute.

As with everything, it may be that I am not suitable for them also, so a two way thing

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 7:40:37 PM   
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Pro dominants are NOT offering sexual services, so many get turned away  for that reason.  There are an array of fetishes that very few cater to, the toilet players especially, but AB's have a hard time finding matches as well.  Then there are the ones who want to be maimed, castrated, or otherwise dealt with.  To those, add the ones that are Just Plain Icky, that are not compatible, and the list gets pretty darn long.



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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 11:20:32 PM   
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I have a friend who's a pro and she rejects clients all the time. Sure some pros might choose money over morals but that's the same in any business. There's the power to refuse.

Now that might be different if she's working in a brothel or dungeon where some boss runs the place and expects her to take in any client who walks in. But if she's a real dominant she'll be the only one in control of her business.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/26/2008 11:29:52 PM   
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Any professional---doctor, lawyer, CPA---has to market him/herself and wait for someone to come to them.  That's the marketplace, regardless of commodity.


In my business (no - I'm not a pro Dom!) we can choose. We're very good at what we do so we don't have to take just anything. But we turn away remarkably little business; maybe 5% absolute tops.

So I was amazed - nay gobsmacked - to hear the ratio of 90% rejects from posters! 

It suggests, even allowing for the fakes, that there's a huge unsatisfied market out there. Which is weird; normally simple supply and demand sort out the ratios so that unfulfilled needs get met reasonably quickly (in economic terms) and the market very roughly levels out.

Are we saying that in this specific specialist area there really is a large surplus of (admittedly not top rate) subs compared with available (pro or non-pro) dommes?


(Ponders late career change - Lynnxz, if you need an agent ....)


Are you asking if there are more subs than Dommes? (the Nyquil has taken over my reading comprehension apparently)

I know that I'm one of two Pro-subs in Atlanta that I know of. I think a lot of people either don't realize we exist (I've gotten that a lot) Or just want to spank a chick while they get it on, in which case you don't need a sub, you need a hooker that doesn't give a shit.

I think there also might be fewer subs because in my eyes, it's more dangerous that what a Pro Domme does. Not saying I'm better or anything, I just get tied up and hit by strange people all the time... haha. Thankfully, I have a friend who's more than happy to sit outside and play his PSP thing and listen to his Ipod.

I wonder if high end escort girls turn down a lot of business?

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/27/2008 1:18:56 AM   
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I have a friend who's a pro and she rejects clients all the time. Sure some pros might choose money over morals but that's the same in any business. There's the power to refuse.

Now that might be different if she's working in a brothel or dungeon where some boss runs the place and expects her to take in any client who walks in. But if she's a real dominant she'll be the only one in control of her business.


I completely agree with the first part of your post.  I have some objections to the second part.

I run a dungeon - not a brothel - and there are dominant men and women who work there.  I started out as an indie and decided to branch out a couple of years ago.  I do all the scheduling and nobody has to take sessions they don't want.  Nobody works shifts where they have to sit at the dungeon for several hours and see anyone who happens to walk in, either.  I try to fit the client to the dominant that I think would be best suited to their interests and the dom/me always has the option of saying no.  If they turn down too many sessions, they just don't earn as much.  If I can't find anyone interested in seeing that client, that client is referred elsewhere if I feel someone else in town may be better suited to them. 

Running a business isn't easy.  Not all real dominants have the resources to set up their own dungeon, nor are they interested in doing all their own scheduling, client contact and marketing.  Choosing to work at a house or to work for anyone else in any industry doesn't make a person less dominant.  You don't have to be the alpha in every situation to be a twue dominant.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/27/2008 1:41:46 AM   
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80% of them are looking for prostitution
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It was that group I was amazed by RP. Pro-domme (is that what you mean by prostitution?) these days is not a shameful thing - it's a fun specialist service


No, I mean that 80% of those that I get contacting me for pro-domme services are looking for prositution.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/27/2008 6:16:48 AM   
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if i was a proDomme, i would be overly picky about my clients than i am now - health and safety concerns pop into my mind. i mean i would at least have a set of standards before accepting a client.

i'm sure many other proDommes do too.

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 4/27/2008 6:23:31 PM   
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is this really true that as a pro mistress you cannot say to any a client-sub? or also have some code to accept clients?



Pro-dommes as well as non-pro dommes can pick and chose and turn down whoever they like.  Why would anyone think differently?

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RE: pro mistress cannot really choose their clients? - 5/26/2008 11:58:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sundowner

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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

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80% of them are looking for prostitution
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It was that group I was amazed by RP. Pro-domme (is that what you mean by prostitution?) these days is not a shameful thing - it's a fun specialist service


No, I mean that 80% of those that I get contacting me for pro-domme services are looking for prositution.


80% is an amazing amount of enquiries for looking for prostitution, that you receive!
Maybe you should reconsider your advertising niche, and where you are advertising

That is not a very healthy ratio of enquiries, I know how the idiots rile me when they call, god help me if it was 80% lol.
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