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blackslave4white -> Slave contracts (4/23/2008 10:48:21 AM)

Whats the best contract to have a slave sign?So that your slave will always remine royal




OmegaG -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 10:49:43 AM)

Dude, if you need a contract to remain loyal.....




marieToo -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 10:54:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: blackslave4white

Whats the best contract to have a slave sign?So that your slave will always remine royal


One that says he must sit on a throne, wear a jeweled crown, and hold a scepter.




Floggings4You -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 10:55:40 AM)

My submissive and I wrote O/our own contract, mainly--since W/we don't live together--W/we'd each have some basic paramaters in writing.  The contract isn't there to insure loyalt, its there to list her various duties (she has certain ongoing daily and weekly tasks), and it lists her hard limits, stipulates the paramaters for punishment (punishable offenses, and the types of punishments she might receive), etc.  W/we even included the promise to re-visit the contract on a monthly basis, and revise it as necessary (which has turned out to be a very good thing for U/us).

But no, loyalty is never guaranteed--by a contract, or otherwise.

Loyalty (like so many other things in this lifestyle) must be earned...







mystiquenz -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:17:45 AM)

Is thinking this is nothing more than a wind up? 

Loyalty is not guaranteed, relationships do not grow on trees but two people work to ensure that they succeed.  Otherwise, what is the point?




MladyHathor -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:23:28 AM)

even NATO treaties get broken---if it isnt in your heart--it doesnt matter what it says--
 
how about a sticky note? I promise to remain loyal as long as...




LordVelvet -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:24:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: blackslave4white

Whats the best contract to have a slave sign?


The kind where they look you in your eyes and you can see into their soul and "know" it is right. Everyone is different. None of the people I know use "formal" contracts but they both have a great understanding of what is expected. Just My opinion.

LordVelvet




CalifChick -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:25:13 AM)

I was thinking about washable marker.

Cali




LordVelvet -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:26:44 AM)

Cali,
I have one you game?

LV




CalifChick -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:34:27 AM)

There was a thread a couple of months ago about writing things on my ass with marker.  Cmon over, see if you can find a spot.

Cali




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:38:29 AM)

The contract does not gaurantee you anything. It is simply a technicality some dominants and submissives or slaves like, that spells things out for them. Since it isnt legally binding, it doesnt mean much to ayone other than the two involved. And like others have said, if you need a contract to think you will remain loyal, there are problems no paper and ink will fix




Archer -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:49:10 AM)

On which addresses the things the DOMINANT has responsibility for and what they bring to the table in as much detail as the part that speaks to what the slave brings. One that addresses the amount of loyalty the Owner will give to the relationship and is followed as closely by the Owner as they expect the slave to follow their parts.




akisha -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:52:50 AM)

I've never had a contract. Find them to limiting.




Madame4a -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 11:57:01 AM)

a contract is not going to control behavior...

contracts generally are not a bad thing, but like safe words, I think people rely on them too much to do things they don't do.. its about the people using them really...

the act of discussing expectations is probably the most beneficial part of a contract...




ender66 -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 2:10:35 PM)

contracts aren't bad, they're just a way to reinforce that the sub is the sub and the Dom is the Dom. It makes consensual submission more official, and binding




MladyHathor -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 2:13:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ender66

contracts aren't bad, they're just a way to reinforce that the sub is the sub and the Dom is the Dom. It makes consensual submission more official, and binding


If I need a contract to have that kind of clarity in the relationship, I need to go back to Domina school.




CalifChick -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 2:16:55 PM)

The only "binding" there is involves tape, rope, etc.  A contract is not binding.

Cali




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 2:20:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ender66

It makes consensual submission more official, and binding

It makes it clearer and written for the participants, but there is nothing that makes it more binding. Someone can ignore an unofficial contract as easily as they can a verbal command. You cannot use a piece of paper to MAKE someone more loyal, more trustworthy or more bound.




RumpusParable -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 2:27:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: blackslave4white

Whats the best contract to have a slave sign?So that your slave will always remine royal


None.  A contract can't do this.

It's the loyalty that makes a contract worth anything, not the other way around.




cyberdude611 -> RE: Slave contracts (4/23/2008 2:29:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

The only "binding" there is involves tape, rope, etc.  A contract is not binding.

Cali



Most people I know that have a "contract" dont look at it that way but more of a basic set of rules and understandings. It may detail the hard limits.




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