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MasterOlaf -> Profile Advice Please!!! (4/24/2008 10:57:00 PM)
Hello All, I'm Olaf, more commonly known as "Sir/Master Olaf" in the local Phoenix AZ Lifestyle Community. I've been on this site for quite a while, with next to nothing interest from submissives/slaves, and am now wondering if My problem might be My CM Profile??? I tend to be VERY direct as well as honest, and may be that My profile is TOO direct, or a matter of TMI!!! I do have two submissives who are interested in Me, and have had under My protective wing, BUT one is MARRIED with no sign of ever divorcing, and the other wonderful submissive sweetie found her true Master, and is now living very happily ever after with him!!! I want My OWN submissive, to enjoy life with, and NOT one who is otherwise involved or attached. Anyway, I've been told My photo is SCAREY, which it wasn't meant to be, which means I'm not the most photogenic person, and better seen and met in RT. Since I've been seeking My "one" most special female submissive/slave, I can't think of anyone better to ask, than the submissives and slaves on this site!!! I've given much of Myself in service and friendship to the local lifestyle community, and a SUPER NICE guy, and feel I deserve to have My very own wonderful submissive before My time is up here in the land of the living!!! Time is too short in this life, and I want to at least MEET some submissives in RT, instead of solely relying on this site, so that the women will be able to SEE and converse with the REAL ME!!! Any and all constructive input will be greatly and most humbly appreciated!!! Yes, Doms and Masters need to humble themselves as well to submissives at times, as without the GIFTS of your submission, there would be no such thing as "Doms", "Dommes", "Masters", or "Mistresses"!!! Most Warmly Yours in the Lifestyle, Sir/Master Olaf

mnottertail -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/24/2008 11:01:53 PM)
uhhhhhhh............. My name is Ron, just curious. since I got over 15000 posts, why is your first one this? whats the fucking point?, and you gotta email me and tell me if this gets you any pussy, K? Ron

MasterOlaf -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/24/2008 11:04:03 PM)
HOW did that vanilla ice cream cone get there???!!! LOL My post was FAR from vanilla!!!

phoenixinchains -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/24/2008 11:35:50 PM)
the ice cream cone is there to make you ask "why is there an ice cream cone by my name?" it goes away. ask an artistic friend to help you with a picture. this could help.

madshysoul -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 12:50:28 AM)
Suggestions: Here's what I get from a read-through: 1. Focuses on finances. Repeated mention of money issues, "well-to-do/materialistic" etc. To me, this is somewhat insulting, because it implies that submissives/slaves are materialistic people, given how much its mentioned in the writing. 2. No personal information: Who are you outside the scene? Cat person, dog person? Allergic to anything with fur? Hate peppers but love anchovies? 3. No information on what would make -me- compatible with -you-. Want someone who is just 24/7 BDSM? Want a partner who goes to the movies and cooks? Absolutely can't stand blondes, but love a woman that shaves? 4. No real kink info. What are you into? What do you hate? Favorite scene? Turn ons/offs? 5. Seeking submissive/slave. Those are two very different types of relationships/people. To me, that implies you don't know what you want, aside from a warm body. You state you're looking for your "One" but you want to hear from "all". Again, it's the 'warm body' implication. Nitpicks: "Unencumbered". - Which means what? No possessions? No money? No partners? No mental issues? Good things: 1. List of real non-kink interests. This gives me feedback on what kind of human you are. Liking ren-fairs but disliking bar-hopping tells me you're quirkly, but not a drunk. 2. References to being involved with local community. Preference of mine - gives me a way to vet that you're actually human. (Disclaimer: The feedback isn't intended as hostile, just honest. If you re-write, let me know and I'll re-read.)

spinninsweetness -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 1:21:20 AM)
Too many exclamation points in a post freaks me out. Clear sign somethings not right there.

sunshinemiss -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 1:32:33 AM)
Hello Olaf Sir, (Master is for MY Master unless in a Gorean venue), Stephann wrote this, and it's really good: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1717756/tm.htm That might help. peace, sunshine

RCdc -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 2:21:56 AM)
Whilst I do not find the photograph scarey, it isn't particularly interesting. Get one with a clean background and not so many tools around. You don't look comfortable in it. Try and add more than one image. The profile is very negative and makes accusations that submissives will be certain negative ways. Im sure you wasn't meaning it to sound like that, however it does come across that way. There is a lot about what you are not and little about what you are. And from a personal pov, the name immediately puts me off. That is personal choice however. I like the fact you kept to interests and not focused on the sexual or play lists. The profile is only 7 months old and that isn't very long at all so I would suggest a bit more patience. Info on the vanilla ranking can be found HERE. the.dark.

Focus50 -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 3:35:25 AM)
madshysoul's articulate disection of your profile is a tough act to follow so I'll offer a general overview. Dom here, btw.... If you wanna attract someone, then you've gotta "sell" what you're offering and you can't do that with a profile AND pic with a negative emphasis. The pic is awful...! I can see how a sub might think it "scarey" and not in a good D/s way. For starters, a cluttered kitchen setting is a little too earthy and there's nothing worse than a profile pic with the top of the head cut off. The real emphasis seems to be on your stereotypical black dom "uniform" and while anyone can wear a costume, those who choose to tend to emit a red flag of diversion and misdirection.... The "scariest" thing of all, something that I doubt few females (esp subs) would dare say for fear of offending, is that you look much older than your posted age; older in a hard drinkin' kinda way.... I also don't mean to offend but I'm sure a straight talker such as yourself can appreciate hearing unfettered frankness (even if I'm wrong) as well as talking it.... So what to do.... First, re-do your profile and take the slant off what you don't have. I'm from battler stock myself and while I have worked my way to relative financial security, I am NOT ashamed of my roots or heritage. Second thing is that pic...! Perhaps one outdoors might better suit; where sunglasses are your friend. If you are a drinker, well that's life and who you are etc but get someone to peel off a few dozen pics from as many different angles - it's amazing how one pic can come out so much better than all the rest without any subterfuge. And get them to tilt the camera at right angles for a portrait view. Unless you're actually doing something you wanna include, the pic needs to focus solely on you. You seem like a decent bloke with his heart in the right place. But real life situation type honesty is best left to personal contact (first base?) rather than as general profile information. I wish you well - and apologies if I have offended. Focus.

Twicehappy2x -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 4:03:40 AM)
As several others have mentioned, change the photo. If you already did, think about doing it again. For one either your ink is very old or it has faded, either way they now look like jail house tattoos. The diamond shaped one on the inside of your left arm looks like an old 1% tat, which may scare off some folks. Do not get me wrong, everybody in this house has ink, i love ink, I was previously owned by a 1% (in the wind now), but either get those freshened up or take a new pic in long sleeves and not in your kitchen. Next, get a nic that describes you as a person or some interest that you have. What caught my eye about my current Master was his name "ScooterTrash" being considered scooter trash myself i thought, yep, that sounds right for me. When i was searching i passed right by any profile that began with "Lord, Master, Sir" (and i know a lot of girls who feel the same way). It sounds like a million other profile names. Only LAM (Lord and Master) has the panache to pull that off. Get rid of the excess caps and exclamation points. Use paragraphs. Describe what type of person you are looking for, not just a submissive. This sounds like just any will do. Describe what you are offering instead of proclaiming what you are not. Post more on the boards, this gets your opinions out where the ladies here can get a feel for how you think. It will also help you meet like minded folks. And before you come back and tell me my profile contains none of what i just told you, please bear in mind, i am not looking. When i was it was very specific.

Dnomyar -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 5:22:53 AM)
People lets get off of how old the person looks. Im several years older than the op. I agree that the op's profile is to cluttered. He can say the same thing with less words. Op I would take out the can relocate thing. Op I would tell you to smile but in your case that might not be a good thing.

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 5:42:50 AM)
what the others have said - too many CAPS and exclamation points!! i don't know about the others but i got the feeling you were ranting a bit in your profile about submissives/slaves looking for a sugar Daddy Dom. also it says you're willing to relocate - are you sure?

Focus50 -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 6:25:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar People lets get off of how old the person looks. Because.........? This from the OP: "Any and all constructive input will be greatly and most humbly appreciated!!!" You think it irrelevant how someone looks when they ask for profilie advice? Get offended by all means, but still it's not your place to set the agenda here! Hmmm, someone of your maturity actually hasta be told that..?!? And btw, I'm almost the OP's age myself.... Focus.

madshysoul -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 6:36:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar People lets get off of how old the person looks. Because.........? This from the OP: "Any and all constructive input will be greatly and most humbly appreciated!!!" You think it irrelevant how someone looks when they ask for profilie advice? Get offended by all means, but still it's not your place to set the agenda here! Hmmm, someone of your maturity actually hasta be told that..?!? And btw, I'm almost the OP's age myself.... Focus. Well, I see your point, though I read the advice as more "Ok, the point got made. Let's stop beating the horse now." At a certain point, advice continually repeated becomes simply annoying instead of constructive.

Dnomyar -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 7:16:47 AM)
Ok Focus how about the profiles with no pics. Do you answer them or bypass them because it is irrelevant. There have been many post about the age thing. I have'nt found any changes since I've gotten older. What reason is there to cry about how old you are? As far as posting a profile goes you make one to fit you. There is always someone in here that is going to tell you that your profile sucks. OP if any of this advice here suits you take it . If not then oh well.

lalbobbilynn -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 8:10:59 AM)
Well Sir, seems You have been given some rather sound advice, and i can't say i disagree with any of it. If i may add a bit: The photo does not flatter You Sir; indeed making You look older, as well as angry/sad ..... i could not really pinpoint which. i failed to gain any info about specific BDSM likes/dislikes of Yours. Although You stated some of what You desire in a sub/slave, i was given the distinct impression someone took You to the cleaners in a prior relationship. As valid as such a topic is (AFTER getting to know someone, IMHO), as an introduction, such a thing is a flaming flag. Folks of all ages and lengths in relationships have been hurt on some level Sir. i was married for 17yrs Sir, and i would never presume to start off a new friendship with: "my ex is a money grubbin' narcissistic ego maniac of a dick knot!!" i prefer to go with: "overall my ex is a decent person, we are just not suited for one another." Putting Your inner self out there is difficult at best. Often times, You get exactly what You give Sir. Best of Luck. b.~

peppermint -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 9:06:23 AM)
quote: I want to at least MEET some submissives in RT, instead of solely relying on this site, I'm puzzled. You are part of the Phoenix community and don't meet submissives through your contacts there? Logically new submissives would make their first contact with the community through munches. There are tons of munches in the Phoenix area. Last time we were in your area a friend gave us a list of the munches he attends and basically there is a munch nearly every night of the week. Basically i agree with all that has been said here. You need a new picture with a different background and different clothing. I'm not photogenic either, but if you use Focus' advice i'm sure you will come up with some better pictures. I had a friend take a lot of pics of me a couple years ago in a lovely park and got a couple that are really nice. The last thing i have to comment on might be found offensive to some, but my comments are based on what my Dom friends have told me. As a Dom approaches 60, it becomes more difficult to find a submissive. Quite frankly if my Dom had written to me via collarme i would not have been interested as he was 64 at the time and i was 54. I would have considered him way too old. As it happens, we met at a lifestyle event and got to know each other while enjoying a week of camping. The age thing tends to melt away when one is outside having fun together and laughing a lot. I know many Doms in their late 50s to mid 60s. They are all wonderful men, fun to be with, skilled, they attend events to meet people, and most are sadly subless also. So, if you want a submissive you'll have to try harder than some to find her.

Twicehappy2x -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 1:07:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar People lets get off of how old the person looks. Hmmm.......did Loki die and forget to invite me to his funeral? (Loki being the only forum god i know of ) I mentioned the photo because of the way his ink looks, and because of the impression the particular "type" of person the old ink made him appear to be. He could be a retired marine for all i know, but i still got the impression i did from the ink.

Focus50 -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 3:21:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: madshysoul quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar People lets get off of how old the person looks. Because.........? This from the OP: "Any and all constructive input will be greatly and most humbly appreciated!!!" You think it irrelevant how someone looks when they ask for profilie advice? Get offended by all means, but still it's not your place to set the agenda here! Hmmm, someone of your maturity actually hasta be told that..?!? And btw, I'm almost the OP's age myself.... Focus. Well, I see your point, though I read the advice as more "Ok, the point got made. Let's stop beating the horse now." At a certain point, advice continually repeated becomes simply annoying instead of constructive. And yet I don't see your point.... I did a quick re-read and find the first to mention age/looks was myself. Twicehappy2x mentioned that the tatts looked old and then along came Dnomyar preaching to 'people' about getting off the age thing. Then comes you practically joining Dnomyar's bandwagon mirage of advice "continually repeated"???? And I agree it is, btw (repeated advice); it just hasn't happened HERE. Focus.

Focus50 -> RE: Profile Advice Please!!! (4/25/2008 3:50:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar Ok Focus how about the profiles with no pics. Most common profile advice given to those asking and without a pic is to get a pic. quote: Do you answer them or bypass them because it is irrelevant. Answer them? If you mean when I look at a profile (as opposed to posting on the subject), I look at the whole package. And I make allowances for females being understandably more reluctant to give up their ID to strangers. quote: There have been many post about the age thing. Yes, I've got the count at a grand total of ONE - my own. I'm not counting Twicehappy2x's point because a 30yo can have a relatively old tattoo. That qualifies as "many" to you? quote: I have'nt found any changes since I've gotten older. What reason is there to cry about how old you are? *Love the irony - only one "crying" about age here is..... <drum roll>...... you!* quote: As far as posting a profile goes you make one to fit you. There is always someone in here that is going to tell you that your profile sucks. Perhaps, but I've never said it to others or heard it about mine. Nor have I seen anyone post such a comment about anyone else. Profile crticism generally only happens when someone specifically asks for a critique. And if you're afraid of the answers, don't......? Focus.

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