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KatyLied -> RE: JEALOUSY (5/1/2008 5:02:45 AM)

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your drama has pissed people off.


I'm not pissed off.  Keep it coming.
Is she or is she not your wife?  And if she is not your wife, why did you present her as such to us?




OldBastardly1 -> RE: JEALOUSY (5/1/2008 5:33:22 AM)

Maybe he skewed the facts so we would rub his head and pat him on his little butt. Maybe he didn't want us to know that he was truly cucked and now he is emberassed.

I would still like to hear the real details. I would enjoy a good laugh.




MistressOfGa -> RE: JEALOUSY (5/1/2008 6:37:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

your drama has pissed people off.


I'm not pissed off.  Keep it coming.
Is she or is she not your wife?  And if she is not your wife, why did you present her as such to us?



Im not pissed off either. Is Razor your friend or not? You say you dont want to insult him but you come back to this thread to "draw him out" as one poster said.
About this "wife" or this girlfriend or whatever, why has she not come to post? Is there something wrong with her? Perhaps you can spread some dirty laundry about her and draw her out to defend herself?

As for you Razor, you were not testing their relationship! Sheesh give some people here some credit for having brains. If she had said yes, you and the wife or girlfriend or whatever would be long gone and here will sit the husband, boyfriend or whatever whinning that you stole her away.

Please continue...

[sm=jerry.gif]

MoGa




LadyPact -> RE: JEALOUSY (5/2/2008 4:21:33 AM)

See what happens when I don't check back on a particular thread?  I'm waiting for the Springer camera crew to show up at any moment.

My advice back on page 3 still stands.  I say this even because I think there are (at least) three versions of the truth going on here.  It would be four if the wife/gf/live-in/whatever, came in and told her version.  At this point, I'm not sure if everyone was involved in the negotiation process or not.  Little hint here, if you weren't, OP, you should have been.  If you were, you should have done a better job of it.

Razor, I was actually in your camp until you came up with the 'relationship test' theory.  Sorry, but I just don't buy that last bit.  If you enjoyed your participation in the scene (not this afterward mess), it's reasonable to think that you'd like to do her again.  It might be more enjoyable without hubby along, and I can certainly get that, but trying to pass it off as something else didn't wash.

Oh, I have one last bit for the OP.  In most cases, I wouldn't suggest trying to *fix* your relationship problems with kink.  It's very much like the theory that having threesomes will somehow *fix* a something between the primary partners, or having kids will *fix* a couple.  You don't fix a relationship without working on the relationship skills.  The other methods are just ways of covering up or avoiding the problem.  Get to the root of the issues first, then add the fun stuff.




therazor -> RE: JEALOUSY (5/2/2008 6:22:34 AM)

I had no trip scheduled.  I was trying to prove a point to the sub.

You've got a good point, I may have gone about it in a bad way. It was dishonest and manipulative.   I will do a mea culpa for that.

I am totally comfortable with my actions in this scene.  I did what I said I was going to do before the scene started.  OP was well aware that the focus was the sub.  Everything was agreed to BEFORE I ever arrived.  I do not like negotiations when the sub is on her knees.  It ruins the vibe. He agreed and I told him what I was going to do with him.  I planned that scene down to having OP cut the ropes to particular lengths and have them coiled and ready for use.  I explained each step as it occured, what I was doing and why.  When the scene was complete, we spoke about what had happened.  Everyone was happy when I left.  I explained to OP what his emotions were going to do.  What he needed to do to manage them in the coming days.  OP went way further into sub space than the sub did.  He may not be comfortable with that, but that was the reality of it.

IMHO, I think it comes down to a very simple fact.  I was able to move the sub in a way that he has not been able to.  It's that pure and simple.  I think the feelings of inadequacy that he felt were very powerful and accurate.  That is a very hard thing for some people to wrap their heads around.  You have two choices.  You can internalize it, get angry and lash out like a child.  You could choose to say that is what want to be and what I want to do and use the experience as a starting point to learn and grow.




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