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RumpusParable -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 3:45:26 PM)
Because she already has "told you right here" -that's what you're saying you want proof of and are refusing to take when she offered.

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 3:56:20 PM)
RP, if someone's going to say " i have proof", then i don't need to speak privately to the third party ...i want it straight from the said person herself. she doesn't have to name any names here ...merely list a few examples of the items/tributes she gave back. nothing more or less ...so yes i refused because i simply don't believe her. and that's my pov

yournewprincess -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 3:59:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl RP, if someone's going to say " i have proof", then i don't need to speak privately to the third party ...i want it straight from the said person herself. she doesn't have to name any names here ...merely list a few examples of the items/tributes she gave back. nothing more or less ...so yes i refused because i simply don't believe her. and that's my pov lol ok but i dont see how listing it would prove anything. with the slave that i was talking about he sent a small tribute through paypal. we were set to meet but then i started talking with my ex again so i explained to him what was going on and sent it back to his paypal account. we still talk as friends. i was just going to give you his name so that you could talk to him to verify this if your really as cynical as you said.

RumpusParable -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 4:49:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl RP, if someone's going to say " i have proof", then i don't need to speak privately to the third party ...i want it straight from the said person herself. she doesn't have to name any names here ...merely list a few examples of the items/tributes she gave back. nothing more or less ...so yes i refused because i simply don't believe her. and that's my pov Then why play the bullshit games, why not have been adult and upfront and simply state what was clearly your meaning? "I don't believe you and nothing you say or do will change that". Easy, grown up, honest. Her listing what she has or hasn't given back isn't proof, it's exactly the same as her stating she's given them back without listing them. She offered verification through another person, presumably someone who has had something returned. Though in reality there's no reason, short of your knowing that third-person yourself, to trust that person, either. I've no personal opinion on whether or not she's being honest. That's between her and whomever she chooses to meet. Game-playing as obvious as yours was is just a personal pet peeve. I can't stand it when adults can't act like it. I'm done with this, moving on.

BoiJen -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 4:52:51 PM)
MsRumpus if you weren't married and I wasn't owned and it wasn't illegal in GA...I'd ask you to marry me. :)

Evility -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 5:05:10 PM)
Let me get this straight. If some prospective male submissive sends you a poem "tribute is not always something financial but should just be something that is sincere, thoughtful, and shows your eagerness to please the person. could be a poem even." then he is somehow legit enough to meet? That's your "insurance"? "after that kept happening for a good amount of time that i started asking for a small tribute as a bit of insurance i guess you could say." You seemed a lot more sane when I thought you were collecting cash deposits against no shows.

Najakcharmer -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 5:49:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoiJen When an s-type meets a FemDomme as friends or potential otherwise, they pay for the occassion. Period. So why not "make the reservation." It's not prostitution. It's not escort. It's standard...yer just pre-paying. I don't agree. It really depends on the individuals and what dynamics work for them. If I pay, then that's a dominant/submissive dynamic because I'm the one in control. If he pays, that's a dominant/submissive dynamic because he is demonstrating his willingness to serve and sacrifice. I generally prefer to go dutch on a first friends-only meeting because that can't be misinterpreted as a D/s dynamic in either direction.

BoiJen -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 5:53:53 PM)
Given the nature of the possible meetings...there's likely to be a tone of D/s anyways. There are such things as D/s friends...ask all the women I call Ms"so and so" and the men I call Mr"so and so." It's respect for their position without stepping on toes or allowing misinterpretation about my motivations, intentions, and my own position.

domiguy -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 6:13:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yournewprincess wasnt replying to your post hun actually the one before you. i wanted to make sure that any misconceptions were taken care of. i dont want to come over as a money hungry domme, just someone trying to get over the large amounts of fakes that are standing in the way of that one special one. Why do you think that you would came across as a money hungry domme? YOUR PROFILE... "you should forget your place. i expect tributes. if you have a problem with this that is totally fine just dont email me then." Blah blah blah....Why are dommes so silly? Why do you think that someone wouldn't take the time to read your profile? Why do so many come across as whores? Prostitutes or at least escorts if the word "whore" is to strong for you. I always wonder what these women have going on in their lives? How many are dominant and how many are just looking for some dumb-ass dude to hand over the cake? Fuck, it says little for the women that pursue this shit and the dudes that are paying them.

orfunboi -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 7:42:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoiJen You're being pissy. Professional work is not about the relationship bit of D/s. It's about getting my kink met bit of BDSM. These guys are either already engaged in a relationship with someone else or don't want a relationship of their own. Those 8 guys...of all approaching a Pro (assumed) will get told "Hey I'm a Pro. I don't want a relationship." 1 Will say okay that's what I'm looking for so have a good one. The other 7 will try and get one over as to why they are special enough to not get charged. They're cheap asses trying to get out of paying for what they want. It would be like going to a McD's and saying "Um...can I get that for free because you should like me?" I'm not sure you're talking about the same things. It sounds like there are Dommes who are asking for a tribute in order to meet the Domme or to continue a online relationship. Kinda like if you send my 20 bucks on paypal, I will meet you for coffee and maybe it will go further. Or you send me 20 bucks on paypal and I will respond to your emails and see if your worth talking to. The Pro Dommes I know run a business, they set up appointments and provide a service. I see a lot of threads about the subject and often wonder which one it falls under.

BoiJen -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 7:55:09 PM)
I hear what you're saying. And some people DO pay for online stuff. I know a company (no longer in operation due to zoning issues) that did online "dominantion"...in fact several sites actually do (IE online "salve academies") And if a Domme choses to charge to meet because it's potentially her time that's wasted because she went out on a limb with someone she didn't know...so be it. It's why, though, I choose to make meeting arrangements for MsK for public events such as munches and play parties. On a side note it was nice saying "hi" the other day! Hope to see you soon and that is good for you. boi

orfunboi -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 8:00:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoiJen I hear what you're saying. And some people DO pay for online stuff. I know a company (no longer in operation due to zoning issues) that did online "dominantion"...in fact several sites actually do (IE online "salve academies") Yea, they do, I guess you have to get it any way you can. And if a Domme choses to charge to meet because it's potentially her time that's wasted because she went out on a limb with someone she didn't know...so be it. True and if they didn't want to go there, they can always so no It's why, though, I choose to make meeting arrangements for MsK for public events such as munches and play parties. You are a good boi :O) On a side note it was nice saying "hi" the other day! Hope to see you soon and that is good for you. Yea, I've missed you guys, I need to get out more. Maybe the next chatohs munch Give MsK a really big hug for me and be sure to nuzzle the cleavage. calli

LadyPact -> RE: fraud and tributes (4/27/2008 8:35:21 PM)
OP, if I was your age, as cute as you are, AND 8 out of 10 people that proposed to meet flaked, I'd be wondering what in the hell was wrong, too. I'm almost twice your age, and I haven't had eight no shows, kinky or otherwise, in My entire life. How I avoid that in the kink world is very much like NajakCharmer suggested about a page or so ago. If I'm going to meet someone, I usually set it up to be at a munch or an event that I was planning to be at anyway. That way, I haven't spent any time or money that I wasn't already planning to spend. I'm pretty vocal about the places and gatherings that I attend. It's pretty easy to find Me at a public event. Btw, if you really are using your funds to travel just to meet folks, you might want to consider having alternate plans so the money isn't wasted.

Ebonybbw -> RE: fraud and tributes (5/4/2008 6:38:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 i just don't "get" the whole male sub paying the female domme to do their thing. seems to me it should be a mutually enjoyable thing, exclusive of payment. "Nothing in life is free"

HerLord -> RE: fraud and tributes (5/4/2008 7:01:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ebonybbw "Nothing in life is free" Not every thing you pay for is worth the price.

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