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RE: An anatomy of surrender? - 4/29/2008 5:21:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Knock knock, quizz time: what has been the single-handedly most belligerent culture on the planet for decades? Bonus point if you guess its predominant religion .

How about we stay on-topic and address the original post instead?

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RE: An anatomy of surrender? - 4/29/2008 5:25:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rule

It is all lies. There were no planes used as missiles on 911. Van Gogh was murdered by a muslim driven nuts, but that had nothing to do with islam which was used as a tool only. That Danish cartoonist is fishy as well. All these cases have been blamed on muslims and used to get them agitated as well as to agitate against them, whereas in fact the muslims are perfectly innocent.

Dude, you need to check your meds.

Seriously.

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RE: An anatomy of surrender? - 4/29/2008 7:24:02 PM

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How much money, do you think, is made off Mecca and Medina?

Al Bukr Naji was flawed. Pan-Islam is flawed. Al Queda is flawed in thinking that everything is Al Queda in as much that we succumb to everything is Al Queda. Sunni insurgents willingly accept money to save face stating that it wasn’t them but Al Queda, which in turn rally’s up US support to pretend that is still our agenda.

The oil is still pumping. The reason that Al Queda never, and I mean gave it a real good push is that they didn’t and definitely do not now have the cash to rebuild. It isn’t even plausible that they could rebuild, secure borders, and take care of the people. Not even close.

Its why Somalia didn’t work out. The ICU, once in place, wasn’t operating as a unified group. Some regions were more liberal than others. Lets just say the ICU makes a comeback, all of its money will be spent on arms to secure the border. The people are out of water NOW, they are facing famine NOW.

On the surface it would seem as if that worked out just like Naji said it would. Exhaustion is a double edged sword. Naji wanted a more centralized control. Somalia can’t do it. They can’t try to rebuild the country, secure the borders, and try to give the people what they need AND deal with the competition that stems from X amount of judges attempting to control their own region. Again, what room in their agenda will they have for pan-Islam?

We can do Chechnya as well. Secessionists, and their agenda is completely different. Its not about pan-Islam. Putin called it many years ago when he said that it was akin to Texas trying to secede and it is very much true. Where will their loyalties lie?

We can do medium-Hamas, who was able to pull that off has a smaller goal. It also fans the flames for the other regions. The ultimate goal is way off the mark. Hezbollah- their agenda is for a piece of land that doesn’t even belong to them. It would belong to Syria. Once the medium is accomplished, where does that loyalty lie?

Again, how much money do you think is made off the Haj? Do you think that the House of Saud is willing to give up control of that? Not likely. You won’t find it in the masses that profit from it as well. Kind of how pan-Arab panned out.

Pan-Islam sounds good, kind of like pan Arab sounded good. The Shia ate it up when they figured out that it didn’t mean them…………the first time around. Centralized power went to whom? It is a farce. It would destroy another’s agenda.

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