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I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 2:40:01 PM   
tsatske


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In another thread, about what we want in our partners, another sub mentioned wanting someone who was 'a complete Bastard'
Again, this brought to mind something i have thought of posting for a while, but hesitated because of the difficulty that what is in my head sometimes has, in trying to travel the long lonely road to become English that can be spoken or typed and make sense. Often, it just does not survive the trip. But, i thought i'd try, anyway.
What are the things you say, or that your partner says, that describe your dynamic in some way, that you do not really mean in the way that most people might take it, but that you do mean - just in a way that is meaningful to you.
I'm thinking of things like, a Dominant friend was speaking with a sub female friend, who was saying that her Master was feeling a bit frustrated about doing without sex because she was sick and couldn't service him. The Dom friend said, all you have to do is lay there - what do i care if you are sick? Did that mean that he would actually have made his sub provide service regardless of the state of her health? No, not regardless - yes for some states, no for others. But it expressed, although he was joking, that Doms wants get a high priority and consideration, in his life, above his subs comfort.
The thread i am stealing this from, a poster said, she needs the man she is looking for to be 'a complete Bastard'. Now, one of my exes embezzled a few thousand off me. I think that makes him a complete bastard. Yet, i am thinking that is not what she means.
This is, in reality, a type of symbolic language. In what ways do you use this, in your relationships, or in your search, or in your life?

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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 2:55:55 PM   
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All of my life i have wanted a Bastard.. and now i have one.. in the sense that everything will run His way with no compromises. He will push me, play games with me, fuck with me physically & mentally for His amusement. But He will never harm me in any way..
i assume this is what you mean tsatske.

As for things that We say.. For me.. A prime example of this would be when i look Him straight in the eyes and tell Him.. "i hate You".. and He just smiles. Because He knows how much i love to hate Him..
When He teases me, and on just some small level i really mean it, it makes Him smile even more.. Because He loves my reactions to Him, the positive just as much as the negative.. which i guess just makes Him even more of a Bastard.


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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 2:57:37 PM   
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Well, I don't want Him to be a complete bastard, but a little selfish interest in a Dom is a good thing- after all, I am a service sub. The idea of me lying in bed, sick, and Him just f*cking me anyway because He felt like it is pretty hot to me.
 
The idea of being used sexually, regardless of my own state of mind, turns me on. Go figure.

 
Another example- I don't really believe He thinks I am a f*cking bitch and a whore, but I love it when He calls me those and other derogatory terms (at appropriate times.... wait. I take that back. If He calls me those things, it turns into appropriate times. I'm a slut like that. )
 
I don't know if I answered your query, but this is what popped into mind when reading it.

< Message edited by hejira92 -- 4/28/2008 2:58:54 PM >


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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 3:26:27 PM   
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they can have and keep the 'complete bastard'!  i'm fortunate enough to have the guy that doesn't have a bastards bone in his body, so, if they are looking for and truly need the complete bastard, have them e-mail me, i have a few guys i'd like them to meet

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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 3:36:34 PM   
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"Complete Bastard" sounds like yet another one of those terms that sounds titillating as long as it's in your own mind, but the reality may be something else again.

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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 4:31:03 PM   
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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 5:19:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tsatske

In another thread, about what we want in our partners, another sub mentioned wanting someone who was 'a complete Bastard'
Again, this brought to mind something i have thought of posting for a while, but hesitated because of the difficulty that what is in my head sometimes has, in trying to travel the long lonely road to become English that can be spoken or typed and make sense. Often, it just does not survive the trip. But, i thought i'd try, anyway.
What are the things you say, or that your partner says, that describe your dynamic in some way, that you do not really mean in the way that most people might take it, but that you do mean - just in a way that is meaningful to you.
I'm thinking of things like, a Dominant friend was speaking with a sub female friend, who was saying that her Master was feeling a bit frustrated about doing without sex because she was sick and couldn't service him. The Dom friend said, all you have to do is lay there - what do i care if you are sick? Did that mean that he would actually have made his sub provide service regardless of the state of her health? No, not regardless - yes for some states, no for others. But it expressed, although he was joking, that Doms wants get a high priority and consideration, in his life, above his subs comfort.
The thread i am stealing this from, a poster said, she needs the man she is looking for to be 'a complete Bastard'. Now, one of my exes embezzled a few thousand off me. I think that makes him a complete bastard. Yet, i am thinking that is not what she means.
This is, in reality, a type of symbolic language. In what ways do you use this, in your relationships, or in your search, or in your life?

This is just a fabulus fabtastic oppoetunity for me to follow the thread and then respond. Simply because it for me what I say, (very little when I am with a dominant), and what I write (very complax, my tool, my job, my own mastery), what I do(compartmentalised into vanilla and bdsm) and what i think (wild fantasies) exist in four different universes but in my bdsm desires I would like at some point for these universes to converge. It's not like I don't know this. It's that I do. And it's not like I don't want to post I do. But I want to see what others say first to help give me some structure to what to write. It's a really excellent opening post.
Thank you tsatsake for this.



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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 5:21:05 PM   
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Last time we were together, I called my submissive "my slutty bitch"...and that's so totally NOT her character! She did a damned good job when I asked her to play the part, tho.
 
One month from today, we'll be together again for the second time....
 
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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 5:37:09 PM   
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Labels are handy only if we mutually understand the specific definitions we have in our heads. What's a complete bastard to one is simply a Dominant who will not waiver to another. My girl and I had a similar discussion about sub vs slave. Our definitions were the same for oppositive words...so now we use my definitions and she's slave.

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RE: I don't quite mean that, but it's the truth - 4/28/2008 6:11:16 PM   
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the "Complete Bastard" is also what i seek.... using metalmiss's definition.
 
may we all find our bliss,
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