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LaTigresse -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/8/2008 2:34:38 PM)

No one is allowed to smoke around me or my property. I will not kiss or touch anyone that smokes. 

I hate it, I hate the stench.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/8/2008 2:41:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

No one is allowed to smoke around me or my property. I will not kiss or touch anyone that smokes. 

I hate it, I hate the stench.



now you would be a good influence on me!




LadyAyla7053 -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/8/2008 3:03:32 PM)

We all know that smoking is bad for us. That is without question, so is going outside and breathing in the smog filled air, getting into our cars and driving on the road, having unprotected sex and a multitude of other things in this world. Being as I am a smoker and have been since I was around 10 or 11 years old and the fact that my own mother is a smoker and she is nearly 70 and has been a smoker since she was 16. Thus far she has no lung issues and aside for some physical problems is healthy. I have a theory that cancers and the other smoke related illnesses are not only caused by smoking but the person has to have the right specific gene to have the cancer or smoking related illnesses. I'll be perfectly honest I wish I had never started smoking, but I did and after all these years I know I'm addicted to the nicotine. I doubt that I will ever stop and there isn't anyone that is going to make me stop smoking if I truly don't wish to. So to all of you that think you are better than us smokers get a grip. To those that have quit smoking, congratulations and to all us smokers. Don't let anyone tell you to stop unless you truly wish to stop. It's our bodies, our lives and our health.

Lady Ayla




LaTigresse -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/8/2008 3:52:44 PM)

I don't tell anyone to stop. They just cannot be in my home, my car, or around my person. Veddy simple really.






expedio1 -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/8/2008 4:12:37 PM)

One paragraph near the end of My profile states My thoughts on this subject in a nutshell:
 
"Unfortunately, smoking is an absolute, rock-solid hard limit.  I have asthma and can't be around cigarette smoke or residue.  I'm sympathetic to the difficulties smokers face, but if you smoke I can't consider you.  I'm very sorry."
 
As I say, I'm sympathetic, but I simply have no choice in the matter.




lilsubrt -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/27/2008 9:08:37 PM)

Hello would like to twist the thread a little. This sub would like to ask of the Dominant Ladies hereif You had set a rule against Your sub/slave smoking and he broke that rule, What would You do ?




mztresn0w -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/27/2008 9:40:35 PM)

I am a smoker. I know how bad it is. But it is something that I enjoy doing. I rarely drink and I don't do drugs. We all have our vices. Mine is cigarettes. Yes I know it will shorten my life. But so will the air we breathe and the food we eat and the water we drink. I have no rules on smoking. If you smoke fine then I will join you for a smoke. If you don't then excuse me while I go outside to smoke. If the smell bothers you after I come back from smoking. Then stay away from me.




bashfulhuck -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/28/2008 12:36:44 AM)

i feel like i really need to chime in here. i'm not a smoker, i don't care if someone else is. i can even be in a relationship with that person so long as they aren't smoking in the car with me, or in the house.
That being said, i'm sorry but i think it's a very good thing smoking has been banned in public buildings in my state. Why you might ask? Because i am a bouncer, have been for almost 20 years, and am so much happier that i don't walk out of my venues at the end of the night with things like smoke induced headaches, bronchial issues, and yes, oh the most fun one, the nosebleeds i was starting to get.
For you people that just go to a bar to have fun and drink everyonce in a while, a smoking environment is not neccessarily all that harmful to you. For someone like me, who is in that environment night after night, it's horrible.
No my rights are not neccessarily any more valuable than a smoker's rights are. But here's the thing, you have the ability to walk outside of the bar and have a smoke correct? That doesn't harm you in anyway, nor is it a huge imposition. However, you blowing your smoke inside of a closed room full of people is a huge imposition to all of us that don't want it in our lungs.
When they passed this law here, there was alot of speculation that the bars would all go under, when in fact they are doing just fine.
i don't preach to people that they should stop smoking, it's not my place. i wouldn't even do that with someone i was in a relationship with, i would merely ask that they respect my health enough not to subject me to concentrated amounts of it.




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/28/2008 7:39:49 AM)

Misty, Misty, what a can of worms you've opened!!
 
I've been a smoker for decades, have no intention of quitting, I enjoy it. My doctor can't give me a good reason to quit, he's tried to find one. My lungs are clear, no weezing anyplace. I'm healthy, except for the diabetes, and very rarely even catch cold. And like a lot of people that's already posted, I try to be considerate of non-smokers, so long as they are considerate to me. And I too believe that cancer is genetic and there is little you can do to avoid it. Oh... and asthma? When I was younger I had pretty bad asthma... and now... well, surprise!!! It's all but completely gone. Amazing huh?
 
Sorry about the 'tude, a good friend died yesterday and my mood sucks. That and I just don't deal well with stupid shit.
 
Jewel




Baliblues -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/28/2008 9:37:38 PM)

 I am so sick of hearing about this non-smoker vs smoker debate.  There's never going to be a happy medium between the two sides so it's time for both to agree to disagree and leave each other alone.  I am a smoker and if a non-smoker doesn't want to be around me then I'm probably better off for it, but I'm certainly not going to grumble and snarl and treat that non-smoker like yesterday's garbage the way many of us smokers are made to feel.  I know many smokers and all are very aware of the issues surrounding smoking and not one of them would consider deliberately imposing their chosen vice on anyone who has objections for whatever reason.  We've come to terms with trudging to the outdoors in the elements to sneak a puff here and there but geez give us a break and treat us like the human beings we are.....by the way stale booze on a body smells ten times worse than smoke in the opinion of this non-drinker, not to mention the behavioral changes, but I wouldn't think of banning someone from my home or my life simply because he or she enjoyed something I didn't particularly care for or objected to and that person was taking the appropriate steps to avoid any discomfort or danger to me.  But to say I can never be a part of your life just because I smoke without even bothering to getting to know the person within seems a little prejudicial to me.  Just my opinion.  Think I'll go have a smoke now and vent to the tobacco gods wherever they are.  Bali




serioussilly -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/28/2008 10:46:21 PM)

As a sub, I definitely enjoy being humiliated by a smoker- domme. I love it in fact. But in real life, it is bad and we'll leave it at that. I'm not even a smoker and I get sick of hearing how bad it is all the time. I saw on tv tonight that the price in NY is going up to 8 bucks a pack, and that a pack a day habit over 1 year costs 3000 bucks.




luvnchains -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/28/2008 11:11:06 PM)

Most certainly where I live the laws against smokers have gotten to the point of stupidity, heck we can't even have a roof over our heads to smoke ( except at home, oh and the car, but I hear THAT will be changing ) So we smokers are forced out into the elements, with no protection, standing in the rain and snow and sun, Ohhh for gawdsake! Why can't smokers have protection from the elements?  Because roofs hold second hand smoke? because a non-smoker might want to hang out in the smoking area???   Because if "they" make us really uncomfortable we'll all just quit???   Who makes these rules?
So I went out and got me a T-shirt that clearly states exactly how I feel- it says
Surgeon General's Warning- Harassing me about my smoking is dangerous to your health!
Jeeze-shame ya have to do something like that, about something that's NOT illegal!  So people who have no business telling you what to do with your own body, will get the hint!
Rant over- now as far as I am concerned, I have no problem with smoking...sub or not...I have used smoking in sceens as well as had a rather fun time denying a smoke ( for a while) to a tied up subby ;)
And if i ever quit and become one of those holier than thou non-smokers...SHOOT ME





GoddessTeaze -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/29/2008 1:48:27 AM)

I fully agree with you bashfulhuck !!!

Smoking is a HARD limit for Me.

No one smells like smoke, or stink out of their mouth around Me, Yuck
[:'(]

I've made subs quit before, and won't tollerate any smoking sub around Me and My family either.

It's so anoying when you go out, you are sitting in someone elses smoke, and all My clothes and hair stink after I left there.
[X(]

So I don't go out that much anymore,
I'll b happy when the law here starts 1 july
that it's totally forbidden to smoke in bars & restaurants!

Long live a smokefree life!
[:D]

I prefer to smell lovely flowers and My parfum.

Have a good one !

GoddezzT`




malloves69 -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/29/2008 5:57:14 AM)

hi Ms Goddess ..waving [:)] and yes me and my mistress both dont smoke [:)]  kissing someone who smokes and you dont is like licking a ash tray ....ewwwwwwww grosss ..good day [:)] mal




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/29/2008 11:20:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: malloves69

hi Ms Goddess ..waving [:)] and yes me and my mistress both dont smoke [:)]  kissing someone who smokes and you dont is like licking a ash tray ....ewwwwwwww grosss ..good day [:)] mal

Amen mal

So I don't kiss anyone who smokes!

keep it healthy.

have a good one lilone.

GoddezzT`




mztresn0w -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/29/2008 4:20:51 PM)

I could not agree with you more luvnchains. 




darchChylde -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/29/2008 6:31:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bashfulhuck

i feel like i really need to chime in here. i'm not a smoker, i don't care if someone else is. i can even be in a relationship with that person so long as they aren't smoking in the car with me, or in the house.
That being said, i'm sorry but i think it's a very good thing smoking has been banned in public buildings in my state. Why you might ask? Because i am a bouncer, have been for almost 20 years, and am so much happier that i don't walk out of my venues at the end of the night with things like smoke induced headaches, bronchial issues, and yes, oh the most fun one, the nosebleeds i was starting to get.
For you people that just go to a bar to have fun and drink everyonce in a while, a smoking environment is not neccessarily all that harmful to you. For someone like me, who is in that environment night after night, it's horrible.
No my rights are not neccessarily any more valuable than a smoker's rights are. But here's the thing, you have the ability to walk outside of the bar and have a smoke correct? That doesn't harm you in anyway, nor is it a huge imposition. However, you blowing your smoke inside of a closed room full of people is a huge imposition to all of us that don't want it in our lungs.
When they passed this law here, there was alot of speculation that the bars would all go under, when in fact they are doing just fine.
i don't preach to people that they should stop smoking, it's not my place. i wouldn't even do that with someone i was in a relationship with, i would merely ask that they respect my health enough not to subject me to concentrated amounts of it.


Guess what, screw your impositions. Smoking outside is no imposition?  Five smokers hiding from the sun or rain under 9 square feet of awning is less than fun.  Then there's all the fun of being forcibly segregated from the general population as a social pariah.

i can't imagine that you didn't know that the first place you ever worked as a bouncer hid all the cigarettes, ashtrays, smoke scented leather and wood until they hired you; then surprised you with it. 

You work in a coal mine, you expect to breathe coal dust.  You work in a "men's club", you expect to run into sweat, lube and cumstains.  You work in a bar, you deal with smoke and assholes.  Those are the facts of life.

edited to add:  sorry to be such a dick at the beginning of this post, i honestly don't mean it as a personal attack and you honestly seem very reasonable... smoking ordinances, especially those in bars have been hot button issues for me since i started working in them since i was 16

ps: there was a definite drop in business when they started seriously cracking down on smoking in bars in san francisco... not to mention the imposition of being able to get one or two drags at a time, because i'm the only person working the bar during the day shift




LadyPact -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/29/2008 7:12:53 PM)

LOL.  I don't have the t-shirt, but I have a great line on a lighter.......

"Smoking doesn't kill people....  People with nicotine withdrawl kill people."






petpete -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/30/2008 3:01:57 AM)

No rule goes beyond health rules and an unhealthy sub has no use for a D.




chezzy71 -> RE: Smoking as a rule? (5/30/2008 6:10:56 AM)

I don't smoke...i burn!!!LOL




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