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And it has been moved to "Random Stupidity". Think about that for a moment.

Cali
(who poppped in because someone said there were cupcakes...)

Hm.... So that's why you finally post here...

Oh dear. Cupcake (yes Lynnxz, $20 more on its way) you so misunderstand this place if you think for one tiny moment that Cali is either random or stupid. Wow have you got a lot to learn.

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ROTFL... ok, I'll stop cry just for you. Ok Honey? Does that make you happy? ROTFL...

prostitutes is also all about supply and demand.

I love to see ignorance speaking... Just for your information if I was unemployed here I would be winning much more, I would not pay for the house, would have free transports and much more. Still, just for curiosity why should I do something stupid like that?
So leeching off of the government is twue bdsm? I am still confused. Please enlighten this poor ignorant slut with your obvious wisdom.

Please, try to bring some intelligent input... if not your silence would be much more preferable....

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx
Sundowner, I must respectfully point out that I believe the OP was (rightfully) just making the observation that sub/slave bait consists mainly of: cookies, cupcakes, muffins, chocolate, coke, diet pepsi (in one case), champagne and shiny things.
I think he's coming along nicely!

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But on a serious note... what exactly were you going for when you made this post? I've always wanted to know what the poor abused male subs were trying to achieve when they make posts about life costing money.

Besides cupcakes, that is.

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See the general opinion, discuss a bit about it. Amuse myself reading people conception of life and their believes toward BDSM. See how hard they try to crush different opinions and how close can sometimes be... I could go on... but I think it's more than enough....

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I'd explain what you value, rather than what you choose to denigrate.

So far,not much that you have put forth shows anything of benefit.

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Ok, the whole, "I'm so fricking spiritual I shouldn't have to pay a Domme to do exactly what I want, when I want, and without a relationship, because they are contributing to global warming" attitude is getting a bit old.

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Jeremias... dude... learn how to use the quote feature or stop using it!

Cali

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so if someone were to offer you $500 to do your laundry... (because its a fetish to them)... you wouldnt want their $$$????

ya right...

the fact is...in our culture...if your offered free money...chances are your going to take it. if it doesnt affect you physically, or sexually... nobody would deny this. if they do...they are idiots for rejecting this.

unless you are a millionaire...then you dont need free money.

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anyone would.

actually, that is a false assumption.

this slave has been offered ridiculous sums of money to "perform" as a Dominatrix, and turned it/them down.

there are those who view BDSM in a different context and would consider it debasing if they were to use their skills/talents in exchange for $$$...y'know, the less popular and wholly legal definition of "prostitute" or even the lesser of moral judgements, "employment", where there is no sex involved...and therefore would be others that wouldn't.

for this slave, it isn't a matter of one is better or worse or "true" BDSM, just different strokes for different folks.[:)]

Thank you :)

Glad to see that I'm not alone on this.

I completely agree with you, especially on your last paragraph.

And that's exactly what I mean when I say "true" BDSM. It's simply my vision, I'm not more nor less then other. It's simply what I feel that is right for me.

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Beth stated that even though taking money to behave in a way contrary to her nature is anathema to her, she still would not judge others for doing so.
I don't understand how you can make the posts you have and completely agree with her, especially her last paragraph; unless you've had a change of heart.

Oh and btw...let's not talk about cupcakes anymore, 'k?
Pretty please with sprinkles and...uhm...nm...

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so if someone were to offer you $500 to do your laundry... (because its a fetish to them)... you wouldnt want their $$$????

ya right...

the fact is...in our culture...if your offered free money...chances are your going to take it. if it doesnt affect you physically, or sexually... nobody would deny this. if they do...they are idiots for rejecting this.

unless you are a millionaire...then you dont need free money.

Some people have somethings called moral values or conscience. For some people even being poor... that might be a shocker but still is a reason not to accept the so called free money...

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Geez... it's so difficult to explain something on a spiritual level for people that cannot see beyond the material.... I believe that is enough to say that I go along much more with people that have a more spiritual vision from BDSM than the one that have a more materialistic vision from it. And for me BDSM makes sense when all the parties involve feel whole when they do it, before and after the process. It's not a mere itch. And that's the danger of generalization... judging that everyone is alike... Still I also understand how hard it is not to fall in that kind of pattern.

As you did by assuming that you have to be one or the other?

I do a couple Pro sessions a month so I'm not getting rich from it by any means. At the same time I'm actively involved in the local community as well. Just because I charge now and then doesn't make me materialistic.

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Now... tell me if I'm wrong... but the OP has hinted at living off of the government more than once... isn't that free money?

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Although I don't have a final opinion, but as I told in some posts I believe that BDSM makes sense only when it's filled on a spiritual level for every concerned part. That it very related to what people feel mainly during and after the relation independently of how long is that relation. For me only makes sense when both parts feel happy with it. Also is difficult to define either boundaries either what it's truly BDSM or not. Even as we look to the base of BDSM (Safe, Sane and Consensual) there's no clear border for that and I really doubt that will ever be one. People are different, think in a different way, feel different. For me is clear that is not only a physical experience but a complement between the spiritual and the material level. When we talk about money, it's something that might arrive tops to the mental level but never to the spiritual. And that's why I don't feel it as truly part of BDSM.

Well that's what you get for thinking it's only a spiritual thing. I've had deeply spiritual sessions, I've had just for fun sessions, I've had ProDomme sessions. It's all BDSM.

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Am I the only one who does NOT understand the discussion?  It seems to be going in circles and making no point whatsoever. 

The only thing I'm sure of is that when you say "spiritual" you don't mean the same thing as I mean when I moan "oh god oh god oh goddddddddddddddddddddddddddd".

Cali