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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 6:14:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		There was no candidate I wanted to vote FOR this time around, so it was more a vote 'against' the alternatives.

I used to be staunch Labour... thats Labour, not NEW labour... the bunch of backstabbing dweebs who saw what the Torys did under Thatcher *spit* and set about doing it better, which ment stabbing their supporter base in the back and marching FAR to the political right, jumping into bed with the likes of Bush (And being as much of a glove puppet there as Thatcher was to Regan)

The first time around, when Ken stood as an indipendant, he had My vote, but crawling back to new Labour lost My respect and support.

The BNP really tests My conviction  about free speach having to defend their right to say their piece and stand for election whilst considering them unworthy of being allowed to continue breathing oxygen that slugs would put to better use.

The Liberals are opportunistic indealist non-entitys who frankly couldn't be trusted to run a piss-up in a brewary.

The greens on eco policy are sound... but haven't the first clue in any other area of governmental issues.

The Torys are a bunch of corporate lackys who I disagree with over so much... YET the ways they screw us over are predictable and frankly, considering the other options available I have no shame is admitting My vote went to the old enemy... Hopefully Boris will take the Mayoral position and that should send a strong message to the whole political system that things have gone WAY to far... so far that the grass roots support is not willing to play along any more, a message that you can only fuck with the electorate so far before We turn and bite you in the ass!


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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 6:18:11 AM   
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I have to admit, the main difference between Cameron and Brown for me is that while I want to give Cameron a good slap, I feel an overwhelming urge to beat the living crap out of Brown and his bunch of merry morons.


That's only because it's easier to cover the brief of Leader of the Opposition.  Just imagine that oily twerp given any real power.  What was the Tory policy on grammar schools again?  As for cycling to work while an Etonian fag follows in the Merc with a dry pair of under-crackers and a newly-pressed copy of the Torygraph... just give me five minutes alone with him and a baseball bat and he'll wish he was perfecting his thousand-yard stare out in the Arctic.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 6:21:15 AM   
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That's only because it's easier to cover the brief of Leader of the Opposition.  Just imagine that oily twerp given any real power.  What was the Tory policy on grammar schools again?  As for cycling to work while an Etonian fag follows in the Merc with a dry pair of under-crackers and a newly-pressed copy of the Torygraph... just give me five minutes alone with him and a baseball bat and he'll wish he was perfecting his thousand-yard stare out in the Arctic.



Gasp. That was a thing of pure beauty.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 6:24:03 AM   
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The post WW2 UK economic downturn started in the late 50's at the same time that mass immigration began.



I suggest a passing acquaintance with history might be useful.



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No-one could be that stupid.  But fuck, you come close.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 6:31:51 AM   
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I used to be staunch Labour... thats Labour, not NEW labour... the bunch of backstabbing dweebs who saw what the Torys did under Thatcher *spit* and set about doing it better, which ment stabbing their supporter base in the back and marching FAR to the political right, jumping into bed with the likes of Bush (And being as much of a glove puppet there as Thatcher was to Regan)



But Boris has written that whenever he sees Bush on TV he has to suppress the urge to cheer.  No-one is a bigger fan of Bush. 

As for the far right, on the anniverasry of Enoch Powell's famous speech, Boris was filmed at Smithfield's Market - the meat porters famously marched in support of Powell and this was his way of saying that he in turn supported them.  Simple dog-whistle politics aimed at informing political readers what his inner thoughts really are.  The kind of gesture Lynton Crosby, his Aussie mastermind specialises in.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 7:14:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		The point being that no-one is surprized at a Tory being is support of a republican.... The vote was AGAINST the Hypocracy of the two-faced new laborite agenda... I expect the torys to screw Me over, the ways they do so are traditional, clear and expected.... at least the knife comes from the front, not landing between the shoulderblades.

Even Boris doesn't support some of the new Labour policys.. policys that are too right even for HIM! Have you got your national ID papers yet citizen? Is it the Torys or is it new Labour that are CURRENTLY legislating on what you can do, in private, with another consenting adult?

Nope.. at this point I would rather have the old enemy in power... they do less damage! (And are these days actualy less Thatcherite than new Labour)


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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 7:37:12 AM   
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The post WW2 UK economic downturn started in the late 50's at the same time that mass immigration began.


I suggest a passing acquaintance with history might be useful.

when did the downturn start then.? Only arskin'
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See I'm not as stupid as I look
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No-one could be that stupid.  But fuck, you come close.
I carnt help but notice that there have been quite a few white posters who have been put on moderation for being far less personally offensive then is the Licker.
Surely its not because both he and  mod 11 are black.?No that carnt be it can it.?
We are treated equally are we not. I'm sure the Licker wouldnt have it any other way.
So I say fuck U Licker and up your arse. See what the mods do now.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 7:42:50 AM   
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This is Darcy

I have to admit, the main difference between Cameron and Brown for me is that while I want to give Cameron a good slap, I feel an overwhelming urge to beat the living crap out of Brown and his bunch of merry morons.


That's only because it's easier to cover the brief of Leader of the Opposition.  Just imagine that oily twerp given any real power.  What was the Tory policy on grammar schools again?  As for cycling to work while an Etonian fag follows in the Merc with a dry pair of under-crackers and a newly-pressed copy of the Torygraph... just give me five minutes alone with him and a baseball bat and he'll wish he was perfecting his thousand-yard stare out in the Arctic.


This is Darcy

This is the great dilemma of the British voting public at the moment. The Torys are so vague on their policies that even they aren't sure what they are, and five-hundred yard stare Brown and his Tory-lite twunts have done so may u-turns on theirs that it's a wonder they haven't got motion sickness.



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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 7:54:02 AM   
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I carnt help but notice that there have been quite a few white posters who have been put on moderation for being far less personally offensive then is the Licker.
Surely its not because both he and  mod 11 are black.?No that carnt be it can it.?
We are treated equally are we not. I'm sure the Licker wouldnt have it any other way.
So I say fuck U Licker and up your arse. See what the mods do now.


Tut tut, seeks.  How churlish of you to play the race card.

How can you possibly fault me for agreeing with you?  You simply aren't quite as stupid as you look. 

Calm it a little, OK?  Or I'll insist with Matron, no Sanatogen for you, now there's a good chap.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 8:04:16 AM   
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This is Darcy

This is the great dilemma of the British voting public at the moment. The Torys are so vague on their policies that even they aren't sure what they are, and five-hundred yard stare Brown and his Tory-lite twunts have done so may u-turns on theirs that it's a wonder they haven't got motion sickness.




Troo dat.  I understand where you're coming from.  But in London we have Ken, who's by no means new Labour - they hate him.

I know that there is a traditional mid-term wake-up call for any incumbent Gov't but it will prove to be a huge own goal to put an untried, effete opportunist like Boris in charge of Crossrail (£600 billion) and the Olympics (£10bn), not to mention sorting out the mess made of PPP on the Tube.  Ken was the only opponent to that particular plan and the only candidate with the expertise to resolve the mess.

Boris is set on cutting the number of new affordable homes and police officers.  How is that good for London?

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 10:32:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

The post WW2 UK economic downturn started in the late 50's at the same time that mass immigration began.



I suggest a passing acquaintance with history might be useful.



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See I'm not as stupid as I look


No-one could be that stupid.  But fuck, you come close.


Tsk tsk......

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 10:53:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		BrigandDoom, are you forgetting the massive anti Tory press back in 97, including the Sun. That was a massive reason behind Blair election victory, along with the then Tory policies. I know it wont make any difference who gets in, we wont be out of the mess that is Iraq any time soon.

RL, i am between Portsmouth and Brighton. As for Browns economic wonders, how do you work that out ? Most of his policies have closely followed the Conservatives, with the gap between rich and poor expanding. This at a time when you would truly suspect a decrease. Now we also have the problems with the banks, caused partly by Browns baby, the FSA. He has also been lucky to be in power when there has been a period of world economic stability. So to consider him some sort of financial genius, is wishful thinking.

Its all too easy to knock the traditional Tory or Labour voter, by making statements such as "New Honda Civic"  Or  "Dole scroungers"Most voters though can see past that tactic and vote on results. Labours problem is they promise and dont deliver.

"Education education education"
"Tough in crime, tough on the causes of crime"

Lest we forgot, there has been little or no progress on either in 11 years of office.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 11:53:13 AM   
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"Education education education"
"Tough in crime, tough on the causes of crime"

Lest we forgot, there has been little or no progress on either in 11 years of office.


Blair's sole raison d'etre was power and nothing else. It was quite clear from as early as 1995 he hadn't a clue what he would do with power should he win it and his career as Prime Minister reflected that cluelessness.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 12:01:53 PM   
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Boris is set on cutting the number of new affordable homes and police officers.  How is that good for London?


It looks like Boris has won. Britain still believes the rightful place of the privileged is in power.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 12:26:42 PM   
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It looks like Boris has won. Britain still believes the rightful place of the privileged is in power.


Tony Benn was just interviewed and said pretty much the same as I did... it isn't so much a vote for Boris, but rather a signal to the new labourites that they need to get back some of the grass-roots policys that they ditched from their OLD Labour background when they started down a Thatcherite road. Even Thatcher when asked what her greatest achievement was said "new labour"... never a truer word spoken, new labour IS her legacy and is currently WORSE than the old enemy, the Torys who rejected her and her extreams years ago. I wouldn't say I support them but they are prefferable to what New Labour has shown itself to have become.


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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 1:01:59 PM   
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I wouldn't say I support them but they are prefferable to what New Labour has shown itself to have become.



Are you saying there is a difference?

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 1:17:17 PM   
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Boris is set on cutting the number of new affordable homes and police officers.  How is that good for London?


It looks like Boris has won. Britain still believes the rightful place of the privileged is in power.



More likely that England is underwhelmed by politics and thus not particularly interested in either candidate.

Edited to add: 35% turn out at the local elections - let's face it, we ain't exactly chomping at the bit.......

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 1:24:59 PM   
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Are you saying there is a difference?


Yes I am.... Both are a bunch of self serving bastards but at least the Torys are honest about it.... New Labour cloaked itself in the cloak of old labour, the party of social justice, whilst crapping on the less fortunate in society from a great height. Finaly the electorat seems to have pulled back the curtain and seen the thatcherite new labour agenda for what it is and they don't like it.


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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 1:29:40 PM   
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New Labour cloaked itself in the cloak of old labour, the party of social justice,



I disagree. New Labour stated publicly a long time ago that "wealth creation is more important than wealth distribution".

Tony Blair had a vision; regardless of the fact it wasn't an Old Labour vision.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 1:37:17 PM   
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Tony Blair had a vision;


He should have gone to specsavers... that vision was (and is) fataly flawed!


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