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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 2:05:24 PM

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New Labour cloaked itself in the cloak of old labour, the party of social justice,

I disagree. New Labour stated publicly a long time ago that "wealth creation is more important than wealth distribution".

Tony Blair had a vision; regardless of the fact it wasn't an Old Labour vision.

Yeah, a tory vision!

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 2:48:34 PM

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Finaly the electorat seems to have pulled back the curtain and seen the thatcherite new labour agenda for what it is and they don't like it.

This is utter nonsense. As i said to Meatclever on the other thread, if it was a vote aginst new labour due to them using Tory policies, why didnt the Lib Dems get in.

The last eleven years have seen a government that changes policy depending on press headlines. That refuses to listen to the people of the country, both left and right. This is why they didnt get voted back in. Gordon needs to suck up and deal.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 3:22:21 PM

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I didn't vote because someone told me it was next week and by the time I got home from work it was dark outside and I didn't want to risk dying into this crime ridden hell hole called home.

For those of you who voted for Boris all I have to ask is the following: are you mad? Although I wanted him to win just so I could see him implement a new policy that is outside his remit as London Mayor such as bring troops back from Iraq or invoking a border control policy that classes all North Londoners and illegal immigrants that need to be sent back to where they belong: Brent.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 4:38:59 PM

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Well, Boris has won. London is again a Tory town.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 4:48:20 PM

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I'm genuinely quite nervous now.

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/2/2008 5:26:53 PM

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This is utter nonsense. As i said to Meatclever on the other thread, if it was a vote aginst new labour due to them using Tory policies, why didnt the Lib Dems get in.

I didn't say Tory policys... I said THATCHERITE!... Even the Tory party has toned down since that uber-rightwing bitch was in power. NEW Labour passed them on the march rightward long since.... ID cards anyone? Government trying to stick its nose into our bedrooms anyone?... Two things Even Thatcher herself wouldn't have dared to try and do (Much though she would have liked to!)

Anyhow, Boris is now in and hopefully the wake-up call has been sent that it is time to start moving back from the far right... it will take a while because they are so far in that direction that centerism disapeared over the horizon behind them long ago!

Oh and why not the Liberals... maybe the well accepted point that they couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery!

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RE: Polling Day in the UK - 5/3/2008 5:35:58 AM

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RL, i am between Portsmouth and Brighton. As for Browns economic wonders, how do you work that out ? Most of his policies have closely followed the Conservatives, with the gap between rich and poor expanding. This at a time when you would truly suspect a decrease. Now we also have the problems with the banks, caused partly by Browns baby, the FSA. He has also been lucky to be in power when there has been a period of world economic stability. So to consider him some sort of financial genius, is wishful thinking.

Hmmm, well the systemic problems in banking are actually governed by the Bank of England not the FSA and Brown's reforms are still widely praised by independent sources. Its curious that you consider Brown "lucky" when things improve but culpable when they deteriorate.

Freeing the Bank to set interest rates has created an environment of low inflation that has been the envy of most of the developed world and aided those on low incomes a great deal. Think the Tories are going to go back to the old way of doing things?

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Its all too easy to knock the traditional Tory or Labour voter, by making statements such as "New Honda Civic" Or "Dole scroungers"Most voters though can see past that tactic and vote on results. Labours problem is they promise and dont deliver.

The point I was trying to make was that the housing boom has transferred wealth from the young to the old. The amount your Dad paid for a house won't buy you an ex-Council lock up. And I didn't mention "dole scroungers" - that's Toryspeak.

It's all very well people being annoyed at the Gov't but when it leads to entrusting a project like Crossrail - possibly the largest civil engineering project since the Channel Tunnel - to a certified cretin like Boris Johnson, simply to prove a point, then I can only respond with disgust.

We have a fucking muppet - who actually looks like the Swedish chef and makes less sense - posing as a politician in City Hall... and that is not a good thing.

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