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Level -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 7:16:58 AM)

If he didn't mean using the military, then he is a piss-poor communicator, and he really needs to work on that.
 
In the fallout of his speech at the Wilson Center, he answered critics with "'The misreporting that was done needs to be cleared up,' Obama said. 'I never called for an invasion of Pakistan". Well, why didn't he "clear" things up?




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 7:20:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Where does Obama say he will use the military to go after terrorists in Pakistan? This should be an easy thing to find, since you all are such expert googlers. Hop to it.



         It was in the very first quote, Hippie, and then repeated numerous times throughout the thread.  Since he made that statement, Barry's handlers have apparently explained to him just how fucking stupid a remark it was, so he hasn't used alternative verbiage to repeat it.

       Obtuse is boring.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 5:35:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Where does Obama say he will use the military to go after terrorists in Pakistan? This should be an easy thing to find, since you all are such expert googlers. Hop to it.



        It was in the very first quote, Hippie, and then repeated numerous times throughout the thread.  Since he made that statement, Barry's handlers have apparently explained to him just how fucking stupid a remark it was, so he hasn't used alternative verbiage to repeat it.

      Obtuse is boring.
So is completely ducking the question and continuing to quote the same bullshit.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 5:40:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

If he didn't mean using the military, then he is a piss-poor communicator, and he really needs to work on that.
 
In the fallout of his speech at the Wilson Center, he answered critics with "'The misreporting that was done needs to be cleared up,' Obama said. 'I never called for an invasion of Pakistan". Well, why didn't he "clear" things up?
MISREPORTING.  And the continued bullshit about what some "think" he said, as evidenced by this thread.

Seems to me "I never called for an invasion of Pakistan" cleared that up fairly well. I don't know how things are in the Rush/Drudge/WorldNetDaily Galaxy, but here, it's almost a certainty that "I never called for an invasion of Pakistan" means "I never called for an invasion of Pakistan."




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 5:47:49 PM)

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=62500&newsChannel=domesticNews

(You'll have to get past a commercial before the story runs)


     Ok, Hippie.  If he wasn't talking about the unauthorized use of military force in foreign nation (ie: invasion) then please explain to us exactly what Barry had in mind when he made these statements.

      No changing the subject, now.




Level -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 5:48:46 PM)

Rush, Drudge, Daily Kos, oy. [:)]
 
"I never called for an invasion", and no follow up, no clarification, after what he DID say, leaves a lot of open ground.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 6:07:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

Rush, Drudge, Daily Kos, oy. [:)]
 
"I never called for an invasion", and no follow up, no clarification, after what he DID say, leaves a lot of open ground.

Well, can't make all the people happy, can he?

You and I aren't far apart on a lot of stuff, but looks like this ain't one of 'em.




cyberdude611 -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 6:13:53 PM)

You Obama supporters are crazy....

We all know what he meant. He mis-spoke. He made a mistake. Which isnt surprising since he has absolutely no foreign policy experience whatsoever. Yet he is going to be this great savior and bring world peace?

Give me a break.... He's going to make multiple mistakes and countries like Iran are going to make a fool out of him just like they made a fool out of Jimmy Carter.

This is exactly why Hamas says they want him elected.




Level -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 6:15:28 PM)

And that's okay, I never begrudge someone for an honest difference of opinion.
 
No, he can't please everyone, that's for sure. That's one thing about Hillary that turns me off..... she comes across as trying to do so. Maybe that's just my perception of her, though.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 6:26:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=62500&newsChannel=domesticNews

(You'll have to get past a commercial before the story runs)


    Ok, Hippie.  If he wasn't talking about the unauthorized use of military force in foreign nation (ie: invasion) then please explain to us exactly what Barry had in mind when he made these statements.

     No changing the subject, now.

Here's what he said (from your link): "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." Now, where have we seen that before? Hahahahaha you are cracking me up.

Who is Berry? I thought we were talking about claims that Obama said he would "invade Pakistan"?

No changing the subject, now.




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 6:35:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


Here's what he said (from your link): "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."



          Right.  What are you insisting he meant other than military action?  I've already offered my opinion on why there isn't any alternate verbiage.


       Barry....  Yeah that one is a real puzzler of a reference.  Might be harder than Rubik's Cube....




Hippiekinkster -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 6:46:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster


Here's what he said (from your link): "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."



         Right.  What are you insisting he meant other than military action?  I've already offered my opinion on why there isn't any alternate verbiage.


      Barry....  Yeah that one is a real puzzler of a reference.  Might be harder than Rubik's Cube....
I'm not insisting he meant anything. It's you and PS53 etc. who are claiming you know what he meant. Nice try at deflecting, though.




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 7:01:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

It's you and PS53 etc. who are claiming you know what he meant.



       Etc. huh?  That's an interesting way to describe pretty much every other person paying attention and not drinking the flavor-aid (now in new berry flavor!).

       You're the one insisting his words didn't mean military action.  So what DID he mean?  Or was that not in the talking-points email?




Sanity -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 7:15:25 PM)

It appears that the far left needs a new antiwar candidate, just like they did in '04 after Kommander Kerry reported for duty claiming that he'd fight the Iraq war "smarter".

Hey Hippiekinkster - why not check and see if Nader is available again this year. You know the guy, I'm sure. He was the only antiwar candidate on the ballot last time.


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

It's you and PS53 etc. who are claiming you know what he meant.



    Etc. huh?  That's an interesting way to describe pretty much every other person paying attention and not drinking the flavor-aid (now in new berry flavor!).

    You're the one insisting his words didn't mean military action.  So what DID he mean?  Or was that not in the talking-points email?




Hippiekinkster -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/3/2008 7:28:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

It's you and PS53 etc. who are claiming you know what he meant.



      Etc. huh?  That's an interesting way to describe pretty much every other person paying attention and not drinking the flavor-aid (now in new berry flavor!).

      You're the one insisting his words didn't mean military action.  So what DID he mean?  Or was that not in the talking-points email?
No, I'm the one saying he didn't use the words "invade Pakistan"; "military action", "move troops into Pakistan", or any combo thereof. Sad that you aren't able to tell the difference. By stooping to ad-hominem attacks and trying to put words into my mouth, you've already lost the argument.




Politesub53 -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/4/2008 4:23:07 AM)

Well i cant argue with Hippie here. I have already stated that my posts have been how i viewed Obamas comments. I have to say i don`t agree his words were misspoken, in the same way Clintons were, she simply lied about the sniper fire.




rubberpet -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/4/2008 8:20:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yay let's invade Russia too.


Hell yeah...let's go through Siberia in the winter time.  They won't be expecting that!

Next on the list?  How about China? 

If McCain wants to kick Russia out of the G8 and Obama wants to "invade Pakistan", I guess Hillary will try to plant roses in the Rose Garden at the White House under heavy Bosnian sniper fire.....[8|]




Level -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/4/2008 8:35:24 AM)

No, Hillary will obliterate Iran.




TheHeretic -> RE: McCain wants to kick Russia out of G-8 (5/4/2008 10:00:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

No, I'm the one saying he didn't use the words "invade Pakistan"; "military action", "move troops into Pakistan", or any combo thereof.



          Got it.  You're just playing 'Bill Clinton under oath' style word games.  Hope that works out for you.




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