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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 6:59:01 AM   
MsStarlett


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Ok... let's look at this from another angle.  My husband is vanilla (ish - he's starting get some 'sprinkles' and 'sauce' on top these days.)  There are lots of things that I enjoy doing that he does not want to participate in.  That's what my boy toys are for.  Many ask "Why does your husband put up with what you do?"  Hmmm... in BDSM terms, that's called Cuckolding.  I do what I want and he deals with it.  In reality, I don't actually have sex with anyone else but him.  (And one favorite 'friend with benefits', about once a year - but that hardly counts.)  When I play with my boy toys I frequently become extremely aroused.  I enjoy that feeling.  Then I grab my husband and fuck his brains out.  THAT's the real reason why he puts up with my boys!  He knows that no matter how much I tease them, they get denied and HE gets to enjoy my enthusiastic pleasures.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 7:16:25 AM   
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So if sexuality is not (always? ever?) a prime mover to drive this “pursuit of self-fulfillment” is there another? Or others?

Are there deeper motivators for the pursuit of the thrill of dominating? Or is it simply a personality trait? Or a combination of all of the above and more?

Of course no one right answer; or perhaps no right answer(s) at all.


In my case, this is who I am, who I've always been. I was a dominant personality as a child, both bossy and nurturing from day one. My very first sexual fantasies were filled with D/s and S&M, long before I ever even heard the words. I can't NOT be this way. I've gotten better, more confident, much more skilled, as I've matured and once the door to expressing my sexuality was opened, but...yeah. I'm hard-wired to be this way.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 7:48:36 AM   
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Thanks you for your generous and thoughtful replies.

I've read and re-read your response below and am very grateful for your posting it. This seems a nearly-palatable description of what is going on in your mind and is quite illuminating though completely foriegn to me. Thinking of this triggered a memory that might serve an analogy .

I've done some formal ensemble singing and there are men that have a very low range -- basso profundo! To produce sound I have first imagine it and then my parts intuitivly arrange themselves to produce the sound: tone, pitch,  tambre, dynamic level, etc. When a pitch is so completely out of my vocal range I cannot even imagine the sound. I try to but there is just a blank there and it causes a bit of a confusing struggle.

Your post helps me fill that D/s blank for me. Though still beyond me and confusing.
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Quick reply after a few Smithwicks.

OK. Dominance does not have to be sexual, but I did not see anyone post indicating they were "lukewarm" on sex but still into D/s as a D.

And I am limited, un-enlightened, and male. I cannot walk to the mailbox or fill a glass with water without sexualizing it somehow :-)

Though I may be asking you to describe the undescribable, what is the nature of the pleasure or satisfaction of being dominant over another? Is it possible to describe what that "feels" like? If you are scratching something, can you tell where or what was itching?



As everyone else has said, it's a totally individual thing.
For me, there's nothing like the rush of power (adrenalin, endorphins, whatever goes along with it) I get when I assert my will, especially with an equally strong individual, and that person backs down...and not because I've beaten them down with my arguments/I was simply correct and they had no choice, but because they choose to, just for me, because they willingly give me that power. (And it's even more of a rush if that willingness is intermingled with unwillingness, nothing like seeing opposites slam into each other and tangle till one wins...all inside the same person.)
The other main aspect for me is feeling the vulnerability in that other person, the softness to my hardness that immediately makes me all tender and stuff. There's a high that I get from being trusted. I feed off of my submissive's vulnerability; it gives me a rush, a strength, a sense of all being right with the world...

*laugh* The romance of BDSM.

While all of that can trigger my sex drive, it doesn't have to necessarily. When mingled with the physical pleasure, endorphins, etc, of sex, it all just gets that much more intense. Again, for me. Though I suppose there will be a few who can relate pretty closely to what I've said. :)


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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 7:54:14 AM   
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Most of the female dominant posters here appear to indicate a significant level of sexual awareness, desire, and activity.

Perhaps this is a skewed perspetive; I am only male after all and recognize (many of) my limitations.

Is being highly-sexed a prerequisite for a female dominant? Is it possible to posess and pursue a non-sexualized need for dominance Female over male?



What do you mean by "highly sexed"

To me, I would think it would mean having a high sex drive. Dominants are human too. They have their moments of crabbyness, hornyness, etc. They just handle it a whole lot better.

Me personally, from a subs perspective, I'd prefer someone with a high sex drive as well. Mainly because intimacy can be used to bring the two people closer.

Yes, I'm aware that some..ahh.. dynamics? relationships? are strictly platonic. I hope I find a Dominant that shares the same views and relationship "wants" that I have.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 8:16:17 AM   
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So if sexuality is not (always? ever?) a prime mover to drive this “pursuit of self-fulfillment” is there another? Or others?

Are there deeper motivators for the pursuit of the thrill of dominating? Or is it simply a personality trait? Or a combination of all of the above and more?

Of course no one right answer; or perhaps no right answer(s) at all.


In my case, this is who I am, who I've always been. I was a dominant personality as a child, both bossy and nurturing from day one. My very first sexual fantasies were filled with D/s and S&M, long before I ever even heard the words. I can't NOT be this way. I've gotten better, more confident, much more skilled, as I've matured and once the door to expressing my sexuality was opened, but...yeah. I'm hard-wired to be this way.


Jenny,

Ditto for me.  It's the personality for me.  When I chose to take a very long hiatus, with little to no play for years there was always this void.  I can honestly look back at the attempts to be vanilla and in vanilla relationships and say, that most of the time it was my inability to adapt.  Notice the word "inability", meaning yes, I had a choice to continue to live vanilla---100% but I felt the "something" is missing symdrome in each relationship. 

There were rare times when a man not in the lifestyle, would open enough to enjoy my kinks, it was not what I wanted to settle for, for the rest of my life. 

Since coming back, I've made several friends, have met some terrific submissives, and feel a sense of "belonging" which is high up on the  hierachy of needs chart.  More importantly...I've met someone who will become my life partner and that is something I had given up on when I was not being myself and trying to make a vanilla relationship work.

One of the Mistress's tagline, here on the boards is, "I'm not in the lifestyle, the lifestyle is in me" pretty much sums it up for me.  (If I could remember whose line that is, I would credit you for it .)

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 8:57:44 AM   
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Most of the female dominant posters here appear to indicate a significant level of sexual awareness, desire, and activity.

Perhaps this is a skewed perspetive; I am only male after all and recognize (many of) my limitations.

Is being highly-sexed a prerequisite for a female dominant? Is it possible to posess and pursue a non-sexualized need for dominance Female over male?


I am highly sexed yes, but do I think its a prerequisite for being a female dominant? No, I know many femsubs and switches who are just as highly sexed.

It is possible to possess a non sexual need for dominance in either gender. Its just in my relationship sex is a big factor for both of us because of how we are wired. I have to be the dominant partner because that is also how I am wired. So in knowing those two things yes I dominate in the sex department and in eveything else.

I hope that all made sense, I Just woke up. lol

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 9:36:35 AM   
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Thanks you for your generous and thoughtful replies.

I've read and re-read your response below and am very grateful for your posting it. This seems a nearly-palatable description of what is going on in your mind and is quite illuminating though completely foriegn to me. Thinking of this triggered a memory that might serve an analogy .

I've done some formal ensemble singing and there are men that have a very low range -- basso profundo! To produce sound I have first imagine it and then my parts intuitivly arrange themselves to produce the sound: tone, pitch,  tambre, dynamic level, etc. When a pitch is so completely out of my vocal range I cannot even imagine the sound. I try to but there is just a blank there and it causes a bit of a confusing struggle.

Your post helps me fill that D/s blank for me. Though still beyond me and confusing.


*nod of understanding* I can appreciate just "not getting it". The analogy that has come easiest to me is trying to grasp how someone can NOT like a food I love (strawberries, for example)...I can accept that they don't, it's obviously true, but where the fundamental understanding of not-liking-strawberries should be, there's just a void of "not getting it". It's quite staggering, really, how basically similar human beings are...all one species, after all...and yet we have these differences that are so utterly total that one can't even really fully grasp them.

I'm glad, that said, that what I wrote helped; that was precisely the goal I had in writing it. :) My partner started out vanilla (fortunately turned out to be kink-able), but it means I spent a lot of time thinking about and trying to translate into language things a lot of people never have to explain. :)

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 10:13:57 AM   
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MsStarlett, is this a case then of you having your cake and then both you *and* your husband getting to eat it too?

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Ok... let's look at this from another angle.  My husband is vanilla (ish - he's starting get some 'sprinkles' and 'sauce' on top these days.)  There are lots of things that I enjoy doing that he does not want to participate in.  That's what my boy toys are for.  Many ask "Why does your husband put up with what you do?"  Hmmm... in BDSM terms, that's called Cuckolding.  I do what I want and he deals with it.  In reality, I don't actually have sex with anyone else but him.  (And one favorite 'friend with benefits', about once a year - but that hardly counts.)  When I play with my boy toys I frequently become extremely aroused.  I enjoy that feeling.  Then I grab my husband and fuck his brains out.  THAT's the real reason why he puts up with my boys!  He knows that no matter how much I tease them, they get denied and HE gets to enjoy my enthusiastic pleasures.


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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 10:15:07 AM   
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Teh space-aliens!

This explains so very much...

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 10:20:06 AM   
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To MasterFireMaam, chezzy71, MistressFaye1, MsStarlett, MissRumpus, LadyPact, MissMagnolia, Shakti, LaddyHibiscus, MladyHathor, DominantJenny, Lashra, and to anyone I may have missed.

Thanks for your thoughtful responses!

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 10:50:03 AM   
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Ok... let's look at this from another angle.  My husband is vanilla (ish - he's starting get some 'sprinkles' and 'sauce' on top these days.)  There are lots of things that I enjoy doing that he does not want to participate in.  That's what my boy toys are for.  Many ask "Why does your husband put up with what you do?"  Hmmm... in BDSM terms, that's called Cuckolding.  I do what I want and he deals with it.  In reality, I don't actually have sex with anyone else but him.  (And one favorite 'friend with benefits', about once a year - but that hardly counts.)  When I play with my boy toys I frequently become extremely aroused.  I enjoy that feeling.  Then I grab my husband and fuck his brains out.  THAT's the real reason why he puts up with my boys!  He knows that no matter how much I tease them, they get denied and HE gets to enjoy my enthusiastic pleasures.


Do you have deeply-emotional or semi-emotional relationships with the boys you play with on the side? Is it play only, or do you also go to the movies, go out to dinner with them, etc?   Just curious, as this is the direction my relationship is moving in - and I'm hoping it stays on track.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 10:53:36 AM   
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Is being highly-sexed a prerequisite for a female dominant? Is it possible to posess and pursue a non-sexualized need for dominance Female over male?


Angel has been mine for 2 years now and we have never once had sex.
So, obviously, it is not a prerequisite. Fox and I do have sex, becasue we enjoy it, not becasue it is necessary for our dynamic.
I am highy sexed... with the right person. Angel is not the right person, Fox is.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 3:31:54 PM   
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I think so, yes.  BDSM isn't only about sex.  The mental, as well as the physical, aspects of the scene can be very exciting.  For some there is little to no sexual compnent.  I would need a mix, myself, but often times, serving just means making the Domme's life easier, i.e. cleaning her apartment, running errands for her, etc.  It's not always sexual.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/3/2008 4:00:16 PM   
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MsStarlett, is this a case then of you having your cake and then both you *and* your husband getting to eat it too?


YEPPERS!  It's good to be the Queen.
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But you have to realize that most of my boys (the ones that I chose) don't actually WANT to have sex with their Domme.  That's not what it's all about for them.  They enjoy being teased and tormented, or have interrogation fantasies, want to be immobilized and flogged, that sort of thing.  I enjoy doing that to (for) them.  That's what makes us good matches.   But doing those things makes me VERY hot!  I gotta get my 'relief' somewhere.


< Message edited by MsStarlett -- 5/3/2008 4:04:12 PM >


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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/4/2008 11:21:00 AM   
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I'm highly sexed when with the right person.
The right person is always going to be my slave.
I've tried it in other ways it doesn't work for me.
If a man isn't interested in serving me in the way I wish to be served why would I want to make love to him?

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/4/2008 8:45:09 PM   
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I can think of a great many highly sexed submissives, so somewhere the pretext is flawed.

It is probably true, however, that a vast majority of Dommes are 'highly' or 'over' sexed.

Interesting post.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/5/2008 3:37:32 AM   
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Do you have deeply-emotional or semi-emotional relationships with the boys you play with on the side? Is it play only, or do you also go to the movies, go out to dinner with them, etc?   Just curious, as this is the direction my relationship is moving in - and I'm hoping it stays on track.


I'm so sorry!  I over looked this one and then did not get back to this thread.

Currently, yes.  All of my 'boy toys' are friends first.  All of my R/L boys are more 'friends with kinky benefits'. 

One has been my best 'girl friend who just happens to have a penis' for almost 25 years.  He is very dear to me.  When his last 3 year live in love affair left him crushed and lonely about 2 years ago... I was also going through some rough times with my husband.  The two of us were pretty much having a big old pity party and we discussed having a full time relationship.  We each realized that even though we loved each other very much, we were not IN LOVE.  There is a difference.  We realized that the only reason the two of us have been so close for so very long is the fact that we never tried to have a boyfriend/girlfriend or live in relationship.  If we tried to change the dynamic of our friendship, we would probably kill each other. 
Currently, he & I have one weekend a year to 'play'... The rest of the time, he' more like my 'Substitute Husband' than my 'Submissive'.  It's a little odd, but it works for us.


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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/5/2008 9:08:38 AM   
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Another good question.  This is a great forum!

Sex and the slave owner.  NOT required.  I've never seen ownership as a means for sex.  Slave training takes a lot of work.  I'd better get something more out of it than just sex!  That being said, sexual training can be useful and effective, depending upon the slave in question and the result desired.  So I don't exclude sex.  I simply don't think it's the point of owing a slave.

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/5/2008 11:41:36 PM   
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How does dominating someone feel?  Sexy!  I can play Platonically with someone if it comes up, but I really don't consider it "The Real Thing".  The real thing for me is being deliriously in love with the person I am tormenting, and making buckets o' sex just an aspect of my dominance.


I'm with her.  Buckets o' sex.  Maybe 5 gallon drum o' sex.  Perhaps tanker o' sex.   

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RE: Highly Sexed: Prerequisite for a female dominant? - 5/6/2008 8:28:21 AM   
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Given the variety of responses, the general rule you might glean is that dominant personalities are subject to powerful drives in general.  These drives may or may not include sexual urges. 

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