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Lumus -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 2:45:52 PM)

I'm a Dominant, but they try to make me wear collared shirts every day.  For the most part, I play along; a paycheque is a good thing.  Yet I'm still a Dominant, and in no way does that company own my ass.

Long story short, the overwhelming theme here saying that you needn't worry about the protocol other than the one you agree to with your partner is realistic.  The tangent above is just a less lateral example. [;)]




vampchick88 -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 4:25:24 PM)

 Of course you can. In high school I bought a cute wire and spike collar which can also pass as a choker. There are several descrete collars that look like chokers and visa versa. Wear whatever makes you happy. ~Lorelei




stormygirl25 -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 5:59:27 PM)

i want to post my favorite choker site its more pretty then functional
http://www.beadcreation.com/lace_chokers.htm




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 6:11:35 PM)

I am replying without reading others' replies, but here are my two cents.  This may not be the popular opinion, but I have always felt that if you want to wear a collar, wear one.  Sure, it won't have the same meaning that a collar given to you by a master or mistress will, but if it makes you happy, go for it.

I do, however, know more than several dominants and submissives in the lifestyle who would strongly disagree with me.  They feel that one should only wear a collar if they are owned.  I feel that it can be a valid fashion statement, a way of keeping skeevies off of you, a way of denoting that you are not searching even if uncollared, a reminder of submission even if unowned.  It can be a plethora of things, and no one of them is a wrong reason to wear one.  If you're comfortable with it and you want to, do it.  No one else can dictate your own personal protocol to you, and you shouldn't let them.  (Of course, if you're going to certain events where there are rules against unowned submissives wearing a collar, those should be abided by as you would a rule of any specific gathering.  However, you always have the choice not to go if you disagree with their rules.)




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 6:14:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stormygirl25

i want to post my favorite choker site its more pretty then functional
http://www.beadcreation.com/lace_chokers.htm


Oh cute, cute, cute!  You rock my world for posting that link!  I love chokers.  They make my neck look absolutely lovely.




Maya2001 -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 7:22:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stormygirl25

i want to post my favorite choker site its more pretty then functional
http://www.beadcreation.com/lace_chokers.htm


Damn I am in the wrong business   [sm=jaw.gif]...  I make designer dog collars...I could make  a dozen  chokers in the time it takes to  make one dog collar  and realize a heck of a lot higher profit margin. 




IronBear -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 7:29:21 PM)

I more often than not wear a light weight chain maille t-shirt under what ever i am wearing over it (even my suits) and manys the time I will also wear a wide leather backed chain maille collar too. Only a very few mistook it as a sign i was a sub/slave. They were extreemly appologetic when they found their mistake and it was hard not to burst into gails of laughter at the time. Would hate to hurt their feelings when it was after all an innocent mistake. I wear both the t-shirt and collar as body armour to save getting kniffed again...

Iron Bear
Master of Bruin Cottage
(A Victorian Lifestyle poly home)

"I judge a Man by what I see him do and not by what others tell me he does."
(Captain Sir Edward Pellew of the HMS Indefatigable to Midshipman Hornblower ~ C.S. Forrester)





OldBastardly1 -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 7:32:29 PM)

You live in a dangerous area, or have you suffered an attempted coup?




Lynnxz -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 7:34:15 PM)

Screw the armor.. I'd take that dog with me everywhere.




IronBear -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 7:48:45 PM)

Dogs can get in the way, I go out I'm armoured and armed. (armed because I have to be under law even when theoretically retired) I have stood on a lot of toes over the years because i refuse to back down and will stand the line for a cause, principle or as a matter of honour which has made a few enemies by making a few look really bad in public.. Some make the mistake that since I need a stick to walk and will turn 63 this year I'm a soft target for revenge.. Bad move. Very bad move. I also voisit a few very dubious and bloody dangerous places to talk to people. part of what I do..

Iron Bear
Master of Bruin Cottage
(A Victorian Lifestyle poly home)

"I judge a Man by what I see him do and not by what others tell me he does."
(Captain Sir Edward Pellew of the HMS Indefatigable to Midshipman Hornblower ~ C.S. Forrester)





AquaticSub -> RE: protocol about collars (5/3/2008 8:31:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stormygirl25

I was just wondering if only owned people are allowed to wear collars. is it bad to wear a collar just because you like the fashion? I dont want people drawing the wrong conclusions i just love the looks of a collar.
Thanx and sorry if its a stupid question.


Are only married women allowed to wear diamond rings or gold bands?

In the end, it's all what it means to you. Some people will assume you are taken - others won't. I have worn collars while single, dating but not owned and owned but not collared - some people assumed it meant something, others just commented that I had great taste and simply asked.




akisha -> RE: protocol about collars (5/5/2008 8:56:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

quote:

ORIGINAL: stormygirl25
…wondering if only owned people are allowed to wear collars.
is it bad to wear a collar just because you like the fashion?
I dont want people drawing the wrong conclusions…

 Despite all these learned answers… I am afraid no one has answered your question accurately if taken in BDSM social context.

Collar = owned property at a munch, bash, BDSM social event.
People will think you are owned it will limit who approaches you. 

Collar = fashion statement at a rave, club, bar or with the tourists that think S&M means stand and model.
Like minded people will not think much of it and it may not limit who approaches you. 


Actually I'd make one change to this in regards to a BDSM event.  A LOCKED collar would mean owned. I've seen lots of unowned subs wearing collars at events.




Prinsexx -> RE: protocol about collars (5/5/2008 10:11:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SlaveRayleene

My Master died 2 months ago and I shall wear his collar till I die because I choose to and to honor his memory.
Technically speaking I am 'unowned'


My heart goes out to you.




Prinsexx -> RE: protocol about collars (5/5/2008 10:13:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stormygirl25

i want to post my favorite choker site its more pretty then functional
http://www.beadcreation.com/lace_chokers.htm

i love chokers of the 'a' kind




SweetNika -> RE: protocol about collars (5/5/2008 2:15:43 PM)

Stormy,
I don't beleive my collar made me a slave, the reality is I was my former owners before he placed his collar around my neck. The collar simply was a reminder to me and the rest of the world that I was I was his. Prior to taking his collar I would often wear a collar, purchased by myself when attending a local lifestyle club in California. In doing this I was able to feel comfortable not like I was a peice of fresh meat for the doms/dommes because I was unowned and unescorted.
 
If your unowned  do what makes YOU comfortable. If wearing a collar reminds you of your submission or makes you feel more comfortable when at events by all means wear it.
 
blessed be,
Nika




lizcgirl -> RE: protocol about collars (5/5/2008 6:10:31 PM)

I love the chokers you linked! But I have a question that gives away my age... did ANY ONE else think of 90210 when they saw the black lace one or was it just me? lol- sorry, the most RANDOM stuff pops in my head sometimes.....
I never wore a collar before the one my Daddy gave me, but my first collar was a sterling silver chain necklace with a heart on it so you had NO idea it was a collar unless I told you. It's all in what it means to you that makes it significant or not. Not to mention, the chokers you linked are just adorable, and not very extreme, so it's hardly likely any one not in BDSM would even think twice about it. I don't see anything wrong with it, so I'd say just go for it.




Madoc62 -> RE: protocol about collars (5/6/2008 11:08:25 PM)

Hey all!

A thing to remember about collars and such is that it's all made up.  Everything about the scene is made up.  We've made it up and it's as different for each of us as each of us is different.  So, there is no single "right way" of doing anything such as this kinda fashion or attire.  Thus, there can be no "wrong way" of it either.

As others  here have pointed out, your collar is your own and that means you get to define its extent.  Sure, some folk have developed their own elaborate protocols about the wearing of collars and there's some "generally accepted" ways of doing things but those aren't iron clad, universally held, or otherwise absolute.

Generally speaking, someone wearing a scene related collar - i.e. some sort of locked or secured device around their throat - is declaring that they're "taken" to some greater or lesser degree.  At least so if they're at a scene event or, hopefully, have a clue while there.  Or perhaps they aren't taken but don't want to deal with the hassles of getting hit on by all the tops around them.  Or perhaps they just like the look and are deliberately flouting convention just to assert their independance.

In the end it comes down to understanding the individual involved and that means.... communicating with them!  Gads, perish the thought!

There's to much variance and variability in the scene otherwise.  For instance, my ex-partner was also my submissive.  She absolutely craved wearing my collar full time.  We tried just about everything to accomodate this but her body's physical chemistry worked against it at every turn.  She'd develop rashes under the chain within a day or two.  We used silver, we used sealed chrome, we used "hypo-allergenic" stainless - all to no avail.  Worse, all of the locks we tried would affect her skin even faster and in a more damaging sense.  So, except for special events and only during those events, she went collar-free.

On the other hand, I've never had a problem with any sort of metal 'round my neck and in my relationship with her I wore a matching silver necklace.  Mine latched closed, hers I got a small jewelry padlock.  I wore that "collar" as a sign of my commitment to her.  Not as a sign of my submission.  Most folk viewing that necklace on her just viewed it as that - a necklace.  It was only the significance which we made up for it that gave it meaning to us.

According to some who have gotten too wrapped up in their own elaborate protocols and such, I should never have worn a matching necklace (blurred the roles too much) and that necklace wasn't a "real" collar because it was just jewelry.  Um, yeah, whatever.

Like I said, this is all made up and we're the ones who made it up.  Go with what works for you.

Madoc




mhawk -> RE: protocol about collars (5/7/2008 6:24:30 AM)

i don't know i'm really on two sides with this matter to be honest.

one the one if it's somethign you like than by all means wear one but also i feel for myself i wouldn't not wear one unless it was given/put on me by an owner.i believe in it's symbology more than the fashion of it.




Justme696 -> RE: protocol about collars (5/7/2008 3:00:31 PM)

as with all things...just do as you liek it




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