Termyn8or
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Ok DomK. you seem to be confused on the issue so since it is Sunday and I have the time, I will try to clear it up for you. Before I do though, I don't think I am going to use SD264 as a reference anymore because the author does not have some magical power or something bestowed upon him by the powers that be, who are of course most imterested in your well being and mine. Selfless individuals who tire when trying to make the best life for others eh ? Well if this is their kind of help, let them stop.
If you want to question my education, fine, but I will deal with that seperately, for now I would like to get on with the point at hand.
Many many years ago the Earth was formed. Natural forces formed it along with the solar system to which it belongs. It is a matter of matter and space and how it mixes. After the planet was formed, life sprung up. I don't have alot of detail on that particulat aspect of things but it is immaterial at this time. But the point is, the topsoil you see is the product of millenia of growth of vegetation, which actually is pretty good because vegetation seems to inherently preserve it's environment, or at least those particulars in it's environment which enable it's survival.
Dead plants become fertilizer, and it all mulches up and if you are lucky you get some seriously good topsoil. Plants will grow right on top of the corpses of their ancestors, and reap from their body any nutrient they need.
There is also a chemical makeup of this topsoil in which our food is grown. Even the stupid US government recognizes 24 minerals as being essential to human life. Plants basically convert these minerals into a digestable form for us to eat. This is how the system works, or how it is supposed to.
First and foremost to remember that at one time almost the entire planet was covered with seawater, and remember this is saltwater. The salts contained in the water were rich in all minerals. Over various periods of global changes in climate and other things, outside the scope of this text, rich flora appeared and with it the creation of what we see as topsoil.
In different parts of the world, the balance of the different minerals varies, that is why they can grow peanuts in Georgia US but not cashews. That is just a for example type of thing, there are many examples, and they know it. That is why they take soil samples and analyse them. The fact is you can probably find enough examples of plants that will grow in one area but not another with exactly the same climate, to if not prove the point, lend some creedence to it.
Man used to be nomadic. I read where when the babies were smaller and people started getting less healthy they would relocate. There were no leases at the time. They just packed up and went and stopped when they found an area that looked good. Over the years they figured out that they were playing the land out.
Same thing would happen everywhere they went. Generation or two, it was time to move on. Well 2+2 still added up to four. Different societies came up with different solutions. Some used seawater, others, waste products from fishing. Others learned most likely by accident to harvest seasalt.
Land that had been flooded a few years before was highly coveted, and wars were fought over it. With a few more years under it's belt, the human race learned to just use the salt from the seawater, that that was it's essence. The sun harvested most salt back then, and it turned out to become a medium of exchange ! I mean like money. I mean like the first money almost.
That is where the word salary comes from. People got paid in salt. It was the real staff of life if there ever was one. And in them days when it was proper to do so, they had large families for the most part, and would generally cook in a big kettle or pot. Salt was an excellent supplement in this medium. It dissolved, and enhanced the flavor, and in other applications served as a preservative. But if you pack a piece of meat in salt, there is going to be salt in that meat. But I wouldn't care, that would be good salt.
Now one last thing that someone must have skipped over. I mentioned that there is such a thing as fertilizer. That should have told you something.
They keep farming the same land again and again until the plants will not grow anymore, they found out that the soil does not have any of the proper minerals in it. The plant needs three, a few things require a bit more than three but there are the basic three that they all require. They fertilize the soil with those three and can grow more. The plants are getting what they need BUT WE ARE NOT. Plants do not see, hear, feel, think, move or do other things that we do. They also do not need 24 minerals. But we DO.
However, even though these facts are common knowledge in some circles, alot of people have a hard time believing it, but I can tell you why this is not the conspiracy of the millenia, because it is not. You see they can't fix it.
There is no way in hell, economically, to put any standards in place for nutritive values in foods. Theoretically it can be done, but the testing and all this, holdup of the industry would destroy it. That kind of test is not cheap. Testing something for cholesterol, sugar bla bla this, that and a few other things are cheap, but they aren't up to this. They can't afford to test foods for mineral content. And if they can't afford it that means we can''t afford it. All costs are borne by the consumer.
Nobody can prove one iota of this wrong. So I am going out of rant mode. Know what I mean, that "GET THIS THROUGH YER THICK HEAD" mode. Although you are unaware of it because this is text, I am going to take a break now, light a cigarette, settle down a bit and then continue. And I will because I think I have a viable solution to this problem.
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I really did need a minute.
Someone did state something about liking seeing a solution offered. I must agree because other wise I can't really prove the it is not just bitching and whining.
Offshore farming.
I'd bet that with the proper materials I could swing it. I have seen and helped setup and maintain a hydroponic growing facility. Like a floating barge, with an anchor of course, everything is controlled but some is driven by the forces of the sea. There has to be a sourceof fresh water, I guess that would be tanks or a pipeline. You let some seawater in, to nourish the soil but you can't use it exclusively, everything will burn up.
There has been talk of using the ocean tides to generate power. They bring it up every so often when the President isn't getting some strange or starting a war. The idea is not new, just implementing it is not all that easy. The best way would be to build an island with paddles underneath to gather the energy. Different gearing systems have been discussed ad infinitum already, but I think hydraulics would be the best. No mechanical linkage would hold up. The paddles would provide plenty of power to operate the station. meantime it is connected to the continent by a rod, or a couple of cables or something. The tide changing is used to run a pump, or actually can be a few other things as well.
All in all, this grows food, without pestulence or disease, in a pretty clean environment. Soil is selected for it's content. It would cost money to maintain, but what farm doesn't ? The only difference here is that they have to get on a boat to go do it. We are not talking very far from shore either. Maybe people would actually go to work on their jet skis.
This is a relatively new thought for me. I know there are a million things I have not thought out, but it is a thought. Is it better than nothing or not ?
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