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RE: PoliteSub - 5/4/2008 4:30:04 PM

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Thanks Phoenix, I have just used Google and Foster had an operation for knee ligaments, which is why he hasnt played this season. Hopefully he will get back to full fitness for next season.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/4/2008 4:56:14 PM

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Ah, that would explain it, thanks Ps. I live in Canada where there is not all that much footie news, never mind telecast matches, very frustrating indeed! Incidently, i've just read that Giggsy wants to win 2 more titles with Man Utd. I cannot imagine how he thinks he's going to hold out that long but more power to him for having a positive attitude.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/4/2008 11:42:03 PM

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Sean Wright Phillips and Wayne Bridge and Steve Sidwell for Chelsea, plus a few youngsters who have had the odd game. Man Utd also have O`Shea Rooney and Neville. Im pretty sure Ben Foster is on thier books as well, which is a shame as he is a half decent keeper and doesnt play much. ...... Italy and Spain have had foreign players for ages. France have many Algerians and Africans in there league. The good thing is the ridiculous cost of overseas talent, is forcing the English clubs to improve the youth set ups.

O'Shea is Irish not British but we'll see how many English players line up in Moscow. I bet no more than seven will be on the field (I thought Wright-Philips was on his way out of Chelsea?). Yep, France have many Africans but that is because football is not the national French game and the indiginous French aren't big lovers of the game. I said the top Italian and Spanish have many foreign players, I just couldn't remember the name of Europe's big 14 who have money and are basically international teams. Most players in both Spanish and Italian leagues are indiginous because most clubs can't afford foreign players which is why the same teams are always at the top, something that now happens in England. It is this dominance of their leagues that was the reason behind the Champion's league and money of course, Platini wants to get back to the Champions Cup really only being about Champions because interest in club football in many countries is declining in preference for international football where money doesn't decide if a team can compete or not. I hope he manages it and I also hope he manages to have national quotas in teams but I don't he'll get that past.

I think all the evidence is that England aren't producing quality young players in the quantities it needs. What it produces are players with raw talent but not quality journeymen. I think that can be seen in the English team where good players don't perform. Academies have been around for some time now and should be producing talent along time ago. This is why Wenger and Benitez have been importing young players because they can't find or produce English talent in sufficient quantities.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/5/2008 2:27:40 AM

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Ironically Chelsea are not in the G14, Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal are. Chelseas acadamey is under performing, and while the youth team reached the Youth FA cup Final, not many are breaking into the first team on a regualr basis. SWP may well leave this season, along with Sheveshenko and Drogba. The big rumour is that Arnesen, sporting director respnsible for finding new players, is getting the push. He wants his mates Laudrup or Riijkaard as manager, and im sure he was behind Jose getting the bullet.
Getting back to the state of the national game, it needs to be looked at from the bottom up. Facilities for amateur players are in decline, with many parks no longer having changing rooms. School playing fields are still being sold off in huge numbers. Add to that the fact that kids these days prefer to sit at the pc, where as in the old days most boys would be kicking a ball about. All of this adds to the problems you describe.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 6:05:56 AM

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So.... Politesub. Get up to much last night?

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 7:27:55 AM

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Just watched the two best club sides in the UK play an evenly matched game on tv. How about yourself ?

Oh yeah, penalties suck, but i have always said that is no way to decide a match. Vidic was superb, as was Terry, he had the keeper beaten but for the slip. Drogba disapointed in more ways than one. Great night for Giggs breaking Charltons record for appearances. It hurts but upwards and onwards. Losing finalists in two competitions and runners up in the premiership ! I guess there are 18 other clubs who would have settled for that.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 7:56:30 AM

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It was a great match, although too many fights and incidents off the ball to really be called a classic. Frank Rijkaard has his name on the door, I think. (Although one looney here is convinced the Special One is coming back.)

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 9:34:52 AM

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Latest rumour from the Bridge is Massini from Inter Milan, with Grant taking his old job as director of football. Rijkaard would be a decent alternative though.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 9:50:18 AM

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You threw me for a minute there, PS. You mean Mancini, yeah? That might be a good move but for one thing: his English is non-existent. You'd be better off with his old teammate, Paul Ince. I'm sure MK Dons could be persuaded to let him go!

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 10:32:30 AM

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I did indeed mean Mr Mancini, still, it was nice to throw you for a minute

As much as id love it, i can`t see " The special one " returning.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 10:59:05 AM

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You're probably right. If he goes to Inter, that'll add some credence to the rumours that Lampard is moving there, too.

Never mind PS. You could always become a Hammers fan...

That way you could sing, "I'm forever blowing Doubles"

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 12:01:18 PM

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Hardly RL, You forget the Spurs game at Wembley, make that a treble please barman.

Me a hammers fan ? Bob Hope and No Hope.

NG must be asleep, i would have thought he would be first to give me some stick today.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 12:42:41 PM

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NG must be asleep, i would have thought he would be first to give me some stick today.

'Hard to say what was more laughable......Ronaldo indulging himself in the centre circle while the rest of the United lads were celebrating together.....or the Chelsea captain crying for approximately all night.....

When all's said and done though......couldn't have happened to a better set of cockney wankers....

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 2:13:48 PM

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Just watched the two best club sides in the UK play an evenly matched game on tv. How about yourself ?

Oh yeah, penalties suck, but i have always said that is no way to decide a match. Vidic was superb, as was Terry, he had the keeper beaten but for the slip. Drogba disapointed in more ways than one. Great night for Giggs breaking Charltons record for appearances. It hurts but upwards and onwards. Losing finalists in two competitions and runners up in the premiership ! I guess there are 18 other clubs who would have settled for that.

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Apart from Terry and the incessant crying

...nothing at all to be ashamed of.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 3:42:28 PM

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NG must be asleep, i would have thought he would be first to give me some stick today.

When all's said and done though......couldn't have happened to a better set of cockney wankers....

Come on NG, you know you wish you were a Londoner.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 3:53:27 PM

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FR: Sixty years ago this nation was famous for its harmonious group sings in the shelters during the bombing of London (it is how Julie Andrews was discovered -- no lie). Now we get this? Talk about the decline of the Empire.

And you all know that the only really good soccer players in the world (in this country, we call it "soccer") are from Spain. And South America.

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(I'm sitting here looking out on the streets of the cradle of American liberty...makes me feel very Anglophobic, y'know)

(no, wait...that's not fair. Its not Boston. I'm just a bitch, y'know?)

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 4:01:50 PM

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Its okay Emperor, we in the UK are a nation united by our differences.

Errr if the Empire is in decline not much work about for an Emperor then ?

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 6:14:01 PM

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PoliteSub: Errr if the Empire is in decline not much work about for an Emperor then ?

Been that way for a few centuries, mate. Planned obsolescence with that Democracy thing on the rise.

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 6:59:36 PM

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And you all know that the only really good soccer players in the world (in this country, we call it "soccer") are from Spain. And South America.

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if i weren't a little intimidated by You...being Emperor and all...i'd have a few things to say about that misbegotten statement....{{backs out of room bowing and kow-towing}}

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RE: PoliteSub - 5/22/2008 8:35:48 PM

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Come on NG, you know you wish you were a Londoner.

'Would rather hack indiscriminately at my knackers with a scythe.

How many Southern lads do you see at Northern universities with a shirt of some description stating, "born in the South, live in the North, die in the North". You will never see the reverse.

You have the money down there; we have the bollocks.

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