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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Ooh! Have we got on to the "blokes pretending to be women" bit yet?

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ORIGINAL: MstrObjectmaker
How much time should one waste on someone like that before you give up and move onto the next prospect?

If you're asking the question, it's already been too long.

I guess your right.

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I guess its not that easy to tell?

Actually it tends to be really easy, but you have to get over what you WANT to see first.

Were back to that unrealistic expectations thing again.

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How much time should it be before the question of asking for their phone number comes up?

In person?  An hour.  Online?  Could be five minutes, could be never. 

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Should I know that myself?

You should know what works for you and own the consequences.

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It seems to me alot of people just want to swap pics rather than move to something real or is that just me?

What proof do you as real time BDSM people think is appropriate if any of someones reality?

If you're going into it needing proof, you're already looking for the wrong things.

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

Since Libby and I aren't looking for playpartners, we generally don't mind if the exchange remains email or phone.  However, if you are thinking about a relationship, I'd recommend moving to an initial face-to-face as early as possible.  Generally, I have people who have contacted me online meet me at a local BurgerKing.  If they show, we can have a nice discussion.  If they don't, I've got a chance to scarf some lunch.  Later, we can talk again about how it worked and if there is a second step.

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ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain

You are presenting yourself to people who don’t have the same expectations as you do. They want to get to know you better is their goal. Matter of fact, for some reason it is taking them longer to know you than normal. It could be because you are acting insecure, trying to pin them down to meeting. Work on that and act secure even if you don’t feel it. Don’t build up every acquaintance as someone you will end up making your slave. Let friendships grow into something more.

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

Dude, they all said it.  Go live, get out there, do a munch, go to local BDSM club or dungeon. 
But to the OP directly, if seeking a relationship, 3 emails and were on the phone or she just won't be fast enough to keep up in realife anyway. 
If she is long distance, there is a 2 week advane notice required to get good airfairs... That means 1st week, flirtaions are hot and she passed the "20 questions" so we are on to a face to face in the 3rd week.  Month at the most.  - Hope that helps. 

Happy Hunting,
Kalon Eric

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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

Personally If you cant get to or are not age approiate for meets and munches in your area (edit my area munches are 21 to 23 and up and I'm 19...)....I suggest the fail safe kitten method to finding a mate.

First find interesting partner or parnters I always find more then one to make friends with amusing opinions. If it leads to more it leads to more if it doesnt it doesnt.

Write something interesting about them and their profile. Their profile mentions to say this word or that to show youve read the profile mention it, compliment them on their words or something in their journal, Not the photos its always trolly to me to mention oh I love your bottom in that photo...-eye rolls-

Ask to chat first on cm, if it fails, move to an im.

After a chat or two and things are going spiffy offer to give YOUR number so that they may block theirs if they feel  more comfortable to do so. My number cant be traced back to me but to a small lonely little box 2 cities away, no chance of stalking me through it

After 5 or so hours of phone chat (more or less depending on person  lust factors and such) ask to meet for coffee, or at the local mall, or something thats shows they enjoy doing in their profile. Make it clear you dont expect anything but enjoying their company for some time. If it leads to more it does, if not you spent a day learning what not to look for in the next one.

Your attempting to impress a woman, nothings going to make me jump for joy more then finding someone to attend and or do this or that activitiy with me. It will show me you listened, give me a sense of, he likes me enough to remember Not only my name but that I like XYZ.

If for some reason she denys all advances of kittens method way. Ask why politely. Dont hound to meet if she says no its no... BUT it might just be bad timing, nerves, stress, inability to travel or unsure feelings. If its one of the above offer friendship, or reassure them. Let them know your willing to work on their pace to meet.

Now the kitten fail safe method isnt proven to work in all states areas genders personalility types or race. It just works for her... Now and again sometimes on tuesdays.

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ORIGINAL: MstrObjectmaker
soon after she flew out to meet him on his Caribean island.

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ORIGINAL: MstrObjectmaker
Thanks for your considered and very good advice, however without wishing to appear ungrateful for your help.......You may be in danger of teaching me to suck eggs!
But thanks anyway.

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soon after she flew out to meet him on his Caribean island.

um does your friend know anyone else with their own island because I have a passport and my bags can be packed in an hour....no...half an hour! 

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Thanks for your considered and very good advice, however without wishing to appear ungrateful for your help.......You may be in danger of teaching me to suck eggs!
But thanks anyway.

At the risk of teaching you how to suck eggs...to not have appeared ungrateful a simple thankyou for your advice would have sufficed. 

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ORIGINAL: DrummerDom

I've found the general consensus here is that "everyone's fake until proven real."  It takes contacts to make contacts, and the hardest part is getting the ball rolling.  I've been on the site for only a few mere months but am disappointed in the overall response (lukewarm, at best.)  If it wasn't for the forums, the chatrooms, and Hexxagon (in that order) I would have already left.

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to "prove" I'm real short of pinching myself (it hurts!), but that's not something that can be communicated online.

Perhaps collarme should offer a 3 week certification course?  I'd take it.

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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

at the risk of sounding Foolish.. haha what does suck eggs mean?

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ORIGINAL: wandersalone

sorry nothing to add to what has already been said...but wow that is one detailed profile!  Part of the difficulty may be all of the criteria you have so patience may be a necessary requirement for you.