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How to heal? - 5/5/2008 8:15:17 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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After offering everything possible of yourself, but the person does not return those feelings how do you heal?  i have never felt something like this before...the pain cuts at my soul. Crying helpped a little, being i never allow myself to cry. Just wondering how other submissives deal with this pain.....

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 8:21:46 PM   
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Wallow, do stuff you really like doing - indulge guilty pleasures. Go out with friends. Meditate. Don't be harsh with yourself. Allow yourself to grieve and then allow yourself to stop.

It will stop, btw. It may not feel like it, but it will.

I am sorry.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 8:25:09 PM   
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Time, experience, process whether you could have made better choices before opening up.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 8:27:57 PM   
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Thanks. :)

We are still friends....but thats all that will come from it.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 8:28:45 PM   
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You cannot control how someone else feels or what they do...you can only control and influence your own feelings and actions.

Do something for yourself...go to a movie, eat chocolate, learn to speak Klingon, stay in bed all day, whatever makes you feel better. But at some point you have to say enough  is enough - no more wallowing in my self pity.

You then pick yourseelf up, dust yourself off and get moving again.

But you NEED that wallow time...talk with friends either in the flesh or here in cyberspace...get the poison out...

I am in the middle of something similar...a few weeks further down the track but I could so easily slip back into the stay in bed and sllep all day it is scary.

Others have come through... we are here for you..

And accept... He was not worthy of your Gift because He could not recognise its worth so He loses out...not YOU.  Someone else will come along and see the true Gift you are and cherish you for you.

Time to talk, to walk, to grieve, to grow.  Think of this as a lesson - what have I learned from this relationship?? Don't ask what could you do better....its not you here..its Him that couldn't see. Maybe the lesson is not to give so much until you know it is being treasured as the gift it is...to take things a little slower... and to be able to recognise when to walk away...




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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 8:32:33 PM   
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(smiles)  Thanks... yeah i think this weekend should help me out a little. Its a girls weekend of movies, wine, and then the Ren Fest.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 9:05:59 PM   
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I just broke off a 1-year D/s relationship about a month ago because I felt that he didn't really want me.  In the beginning, he pursued me like he meant it, i.e. emailed, text messaged and called every day.  We saw each other several times a week.  We introduced each other to our children.  I warned him from the start that most men find me difficult.  Not a problem, he assured me.  He could handle anything.  He said he was going to take good care of me.  I believed him.  He gained my trust (most of it, anyway), and I told him things I'd never told another man.  Due to some past issues, I even asked him a crazy question...."Is it okay to love you?"  He said it was more than okay.  I thought we wanted the same things.  However, as time went on and we hit some bumps in the road, he pulled back from me.  I tried my best to work harder to please him and prove that I wanted this.  Nothing ever seemed good enough.  What I did was good, but it felt as if "I" never got his full approval.  The last straw was when I sent him an email telling him how I felt, and he responded by telling me if I wanted a life with someone that I'd best start working on getting a life....and a better job.  It felt like a slap in the face.  The truth came out at last....I wasn't good enough for the likes of him!  I sent him a text....FUCK YOU....and told him I'd bring his house key and jewelry back after work the next day as well as collect my toys from him.  He was nice and wished me luck finding what I wanted.  He said I could call him anytime.  I don't know if I can describe what it felt like to drive away....maybe akin to driving off with a rope tied around your heart....because the pain was so bad that I literally screamed...more than once.  I even turned around to go and beg him to take me back, but I decided at the last minute to just keep driving.  I can honestly say that when I left my ex-husband, I never looked back.
 
I drove aimlessly for hours.
 
A couple of friends took me out drinking the next night, and I ended up playing the tambourine for a few sets with the band.  A couple of them have had me over a few times for dinner and a movie.  I spent quality time with my son.  I went out drinking with my newly turned 21-year-old cousin.  I went to a dungeon in Atlanta where I got to lead my friend around on a leash and spank her and then got a hellacious ass whippin' myself (pain...without love...ha ha).  I made some new friends there.  I guess you could say I've been healing by keeping myself busy and spending time with people who love me for ME.  Of course, there were the pity parties all by myself in between the fun stuff, but that's to be expected.
 
There are stages of a break up:
1.  Realization (things aren't working out).
2.  Actualization (accepting the break up).
3.  Depression/grief.
4.  Anger.
 
I had a moment of weakess and text messaged him after 2 weeks.  It led to more hurt feelings and then rage at how I was treated.  I'm still a little on the angry side, but that's a good thing.  It keeps me focused on putting it behind me and not wishing for what might have been.  Just because you wish for something doesn't mean you'll get it...or even that you should.  It'll get easier with time.  Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and your eyes straight ahead because if you keep looking back, you might miss something right in front of you.
 
*BIG HUGE SQUISHY HUG*

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 9:16:43 PM   
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Thanks.

Our story is a really long and messed up one to be honest.. Hes a good friend of mine and i knew not to fall for him cause he too is healing from a bad relationship, but sometimes you cant really stop your emotions or at least i have figured that out yet. Long story short He is moving back to His home state. i sent Him this really long email telling Him how i felt, ect.....and that helpped me a little cause i knew this was the last step.  After chatting with him today while he was at work, i finally told him to go back to His home state cause Hes not happy here. Never had something hurt me so bad...bitter sweet.  *sigh*  i've had my cry, its times to start healing now thats all.

Thanks everyone for being so nice and caring! *hug*

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 9:19:34 PM   
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warm smiles~
Hi Sandy,
I'm so sorry for the hurt you're going through.
From someone who has been through something similar and is also trying to maintain a friendship, it might help to step back a bit and gain some perspective.
At the very least if you do keep in contact, stick to light and easygoing topics, and avoid emotional triggers and discussing issues you know are going to end up making you more frustrated and hurt.
I wasn't able to do that, and either pushed my feelings or withdrew into this weird passive/aggressive mode that was very annoying and totally at odds with the person I am.
I'm honestly still not sure if I can ever be just friends with him even though it's clear that's all that is on the table, but I've stepped back enough that it's enough knowing that he cares and worries about me.
And lucky for me, it's baseball season and that's months of distraction and focus!

I hope time brings you healing and laughter, miss 

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 9:56:43 PM   
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The Heart will Heal all it's wounds just remember it always causes the wounds it heals.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/5/2008 10:52:02 PM   
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Its not an easy thing to deal with, but it gets better, alot of crying, alot of talking with friends...we have a tendency to blame ourselves, it takes two...one day you will realize he was not worthy of your submission. Believe me i know all to well, as i have been in the same situation...it makes you a stronger person, to know what you will and will not accept... 

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 12:57:09 AM   
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Ben and jerry hold many of lifes answers .
But then i find i have to work out .
best wishes upon your journey , this is another page in your life experience book of life  , learn and  grow from it .

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 1:14:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: azropedntied

Ben and jerry hold many of lifes answers .
But then i find i have to work out .
best wishes upon your journey , this is another page in your life experience book of life  , learn and  grow from it .



Definitely learn from what you did wrong, become a stronger better person after all the ice cream, nights out drunk, and meaningless sex, etc.  Sandy, wow its great you stayed friends with this person and looks like that book's closed and you're ready for the future...which is probably going to be bright seeing the exceptional way you handled this all.  You go girl.  Redhead, men can never be pleased, they only exist to fulfill women's needs.   jmho


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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 4:53:30 AM   
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After waking up this morning i feel a ton better.  i really believe crying helpped a lot. Maybe its cause i never let my emotions go like that.... Really...thanks everyone and i mean it from the deepest spot in my heart. 

chickpea:  i'd rather have Him in my life as a friend than to not have Him at all. *sigh* Hes really a good friend. i think when He moves it will be easier, but now He only lives 40mins from me....Plus it makes it easier when i havent seen Him in 4weeks. *deep breath* Thanks again.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 5:51:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chickpea

Redhead, men can never be pleased, they only exist to fulfill women's needs.   jmho



While at the dungeon, I met a very sweet male sub who spent a good part of the evening waiting on me hand and foot.  I must say it was a refreshing change.  *grins*  Did I mention I'm a switch?

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I'm so addicted to
All the things you do
When you're going down on me
In between the sheets
Or the sound you make
With every breath you take
It's unlike anything
When you're loving me

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 6:46:29 AM   
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I'm sorry you both have been hurt, I hope you can reach a point where you are more happy for the expereince and the good times spent with them then the heartbreak that you feel.

But Red, I just want to say that I've been working on how to tell m'Lord that I love him for weeks now and I think you just gave me the perfect segue. and for that I wish to thank you.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 7:30:19 AM   
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Cry, mourn, heal. And for the next time, learn not to overinvest. Don't offer up all of you when he isn't interested in offering up any of him.

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 8:25:59 AM   
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You're welcome!  *grins*  My friends said it was a cop out because I was too scared to just tell him, but I rationalized it by saying I was asking permission.  LOL  I hope it works out for you.

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I'm so addicted to
All the things you do
When you're going down on me
In between the sheets
Or the sound you make
With every breath you take
It's unlike anything
When you're loving me

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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 8:32:07 AM   
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Oh, it does because I am afraid to just blurt it out.

I also like in another thread someone mentioned saying "I adore you" instead of "I love you" and I like that too.

I'm going to have to do it soon before someone else does it for me and then I'll have some explaining to do.

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Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable. Sydney J. Harris

Sex without pain is like food without taste.
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RE: How to heal? - 5/6/2008 8:32:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sandyshores29718

After waking up this morning i feel a ton better.  i really believe crying helpped a lot. Maybe its cause i never let my emotions go like that.... Really...thanks everyone and i mean it from the deepest spot in my heart. 

chickpea:  i'd rather have Him in my life as a friend than to not have Him at all. *sigh* Hes really a good friend. i think when He moves it will be easier, but now He only lives 40mins from me....Plus it makes it easier when i havent seen Him in 4weeks. *deep breath* Thanks again.


This is why I think friends with benefits is a bad idea and have it on my list of hard limits. It's good you didn't lose your friendship over it though.

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