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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 3:46:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Saccharin is what I use.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 3:53:56 PM   
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Saccharin is what I use.


Is there any particular reason?

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 3:59:03 PM   
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Saccharin is what I use.


Is there any particular reason?



Yes, I'm diabetic. Also, it's cheap, easy to find, and I'm confident it doesn't present any health concerns.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 4:15:59 PM   
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Saccharin is what I use.


Is there any particular reason?



Yes, I'm diabetic. Also, it's cheap, easy to find, and I'm confident it doesn't present any health concerns.


Well, I assume you've done your homework, and weighed all the options. .

Stevia is not cheap, that's for sure. I bought a one-ounce bottle last month for $9.99 at Trader Joe's. It has the sweetening equivalent of 1,120 teaspoons of sugar.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 4:21:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, but isn't everything high dollar at TJs?  Hell, wish we  had one here.
 
Yes, I've read up on saccharin, the scare over it a number of years ago was a prime example of bad science (or bad reporting). Let's see.... one tiny tablet is equivalent to two tablespoons of sugar.... to me, it tastes better than sugar.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 4:38:10 PM   
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Yeah, but isn't everything high dollar at TJs?  Hell, wish we  had one here.
 
Yes, I've read up on saccharin, the scare over it a number of years ago was a prime example of bad science (or bad reporting). Let's see.... one tiny tablet is equivalent to two tablespoons of sugar.... to me, it tastes better than sugar.

Saccharin was abused for no good reason. The amount needed to significantly raise the rate of cancer in lab rats was phenomenal. For a person to take in the equivalent amount is extremely unlikely.

I'm not a big fan of the aftertaste but I've found that a very small amount of suger, a tablespoon or so, in a gallon of iced tea sweetened with saccharin and I don't notice the aftertaste.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 4:49:40 PM   
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Yeah, but isn't everything high dollar at TJs? Hell, wish we had one here.


TJ's isn't too bad, and certainly less expensive than Whole Foods. I'm pretty lucky though, as I can walk to TJ's.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 5:00:31 PM   
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Yeah, but isn't everything high dollar at TJs?  Hell, wish we  had one here.
 
Yes, I've read up on saccharin, the scare over it a number of years ago was a prime example of bad science (or bad reporting). Let's see.... one tiny tablet is equivalent to two tablespoons of sugar.... to me, it tastes better than sugar.

Saccharin was abused for no good reason. The amount needed to significantly raise the rate of cancer in lab rats was phenomenal. For a person to take in the equivalent amount is extremely unlikely.

I'm not a big fan of the aftertaste but I've found that a very small amount of suger, a tablespoon or so, in a gallon of iced tea sweetened with saccharin and I don't notice the aftertaste.


Exactly, I think it'd take something like drinking 800 glasses of saccharin water a day, for life, to replicate the equivalent of what the rats got in the lab.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 5:02:40 PM   
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Yeah, but isn't everything high dollar at TJs? Hell, wish we had one here.


TJ's isn't too bad, and certainly less expensive than Whole Foods. I'm pretty lucky though, as I can walk to TJ's.



The best we have is a place called Basic Foods, about 25 miles away. I get my macadamia butter and grass-fed beef there. Bison dogs, too!

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 5:08:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not to hijack the thread, but not everything at Whole Foods is all that expensive.  If you get the 365 store brands, or you shop the sales, the prices can be comparable, & sometimes lower than conventional stores. 

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/11/2008 8:12:44 PM   
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Not to hijack the thread, but not everything at Whole Foods is all that expensive.  If you get the 365 store brands, or you shop the sales, the prices can be comparable, & sometimes lower than conventional stores. 


That's good to know, as I haven't been to a Whole Foods in nearly two years now.

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RE: Stevia & the FDA - 5/13/2008 4:43:20 PM   
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Yeah, but isn't everything high dollar at TJs?  Hell, wish we  had one here.
 
Yes, I've read up on saccharin, the scare over it a number of years ago was a prime example of bad science (or bad reporting). Let's see.... one tiny tablet is equivalent to two tablespoons of sugar.... to me, it tastes better than sugar.

Saccharin was abused for no good reason. The amount needed to significantly raise the rate of cancer in lab rats was phenomenal. For a person to take in the equivalent amount is extremely unlikely.

I'm not a big fan of the aftertaste but I've found that a very small amount of suger, a tablespoon or so, in a gallon of iced tea sweetened with saccharin and I don't notice the aftertaste.


Exactly, I think it'd take something like drinking 800 glasses of saccharin water a day, for life, to replicate the equivalent of what the rats got in the lab.


Been away for a couple of days, but I have this compelling need to add My 2 cents on those rats.  The results are always horribly skewed. 
I still think that if we just killed (humanely, of course) all the rats, most of these terrible problems would go away! 
 
Saccharin, in fact, all the artifical sweeteners are yucky to My taste and aftertaste.   But I know a lot of people who have become accusotmed to it, and even prefer it.
 I am glad I don't need an alternative sweetener.  I just go for the sugar.

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