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OmegaG -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:19:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

OMG!  I'm supposed to masturbate on webcam for him and provide a detailed description of my fantasies for his analysis?

This isn't in the handbook!  Why didn't anyone tell me?



Tsk, tsk...see what happens when you play hooky and miss a class day?  You don't get the WRITTEN notes.[:@]




but, but, but... playing hooky is far more fun




Insatiable4Black -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:21:47 PM)

It's a conspiracy!  I never got that memo either!
 
DAMNIT!

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

OMG!  I'm supposed to masturbate on webcam for him and provide a detailed description of my fantasies for his analysis?

This isn't in the handbook!  Why didn't anyone tell me?







CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:22:55 PM)

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Is there a possibility of the dominant being able to tape these so called "private" web cam sessions you're referring to? In other words, if a brand new, trusting, naive submissive did as she was ordered and "performed" for your or someone else's viewing pleasure, how does she know that the web cam session she just let it all hang out in is secure? How does she know that three or four of the dom's buddies aren't watching the session along with him and that they're all not taking home a taped copy for their own private pleasure after the fact? Or maybe someone will sell their copy on the internet..etc.

I ask because, in my opinion, blind trust is stupid these days, especially with virtual strangers.



mischievious1,

Thus the point of the post, why wear a collar if there is any doubt at all?

CP




ProfJoe -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:24:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

I have been away on a 4 wk business trip and upon my review of the posts, I see the norm is continueing,
Subs that indicate they are new to the lifestyle and love it so after 2 or 3 months.
I ponder if they have really tasted the responsibilities that came with that collar. Whether r/t or cyber or a mixture of both, if your Master instructed you to get a webcam and perform for him when instructed to do so.
could you handle using that dildo on yourself for his viewing pleasure?
Have you shared your most personal fantasies with him/her for feedback or realization?

There are many others acts that may face you in the future, can you handle them.

If not, why not?

CP



Okay, some 15 or 20 posts in and I'm still confused ...  what does cybersex have to do with the "responsibilities" of submission, and what does demanding it have to do with being a Master (OP caps)? It seems like an odd example so I'm ready to admit I missed the point.

ProfJoe




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:24:30 PM)

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There's a lot more to a power relationship then just sex. Beyond that, the only way I would have gotten a web cam would have been if he drove up to attach it and get it to work. Some of us are technologically illiterate.


des,

Where there is a will, there is also a way. Just a matter of urgency.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:27:19 PM)

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CelticPrince, I can give other examples-- until I relocate, we have a limited amount of face time and I get assignments, while some of them are sexual (though not cammed-- I preform them and then give him the details feelings and thoughts that I experienced) some of them are as mundane as researching a topic that he is interested in, scouring the secondhand bookstores for a particular book or brutally purging my belonging so that when he helps move me, there isn't so much work to do (yes, I would have loaded all the boxes on a truck, but when he looked at them and asked if I really wanted to move all of that it gave me the ooompf to downsize).

When I am physically with him I'm not naked and chained to a bed for his sexual pleasure the entire time, I clean and cook and I help in his office... but it works for us because I see the bigger picture, I see that what I do enhances his life and helps him be better in his business, it helps him relax at home which in turn means that he can focus on me when it is play time

Some people are cut out to be a pampered pet, others feel better when they are more utilitarian. I think that knowing oneself and what makes oneself tick and then finding a person that appreciates those qualities in the long run is essential in continuing to be happy far longer then the inital honey moon period.


Omega,

In fact it was very well put. Thanks for your input.

CP




hopelessfool -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:28:56 PM)

Sure, I could meet someone that I learn to trust and hand over a photo of myself in a compromising position, and then it get on the internet. I also could see my G photos posted on another person profile.

Around here theres a Im not sure if its an official law or just something that was adapted into many work places that photos that are posted on the internet no matter the amount of clothing isnt a deciding factor in getting a job.
Also Porn stars make just as good/bad of parents as anyone else. Job title shouldnt decide where  an Um goes.

As for doing things on cam, or such I think its a rush, its just like doing it in public, but I choose who gets to see and who doesnt. Sure someone could record me, someone could post it online, I could also walk outside and get hit by lightning, or by a bus. As long as the reward is greater then the risk, its totally worth it.

Beside what person doesnt like seeing the woman/man they enjoy being with on a sexual level preforming only for them when they cant be in person, theres forced time apart.

Edited to answer the ops questions: Could I do it Hell Yes. Real life online or infront of his family and friends. If hes my Owner, he knows what to push when to push and how to push. I share most of my fantasies with any potential partner, so he knows what he might just be getting himself into. Besides acts that are set as limits, I can handle most anything, with help and guidence.




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:30:04 PM)

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When I first came on the scene 7 or so years ago and was new new new, I knew little about what was expected initially (omg I think I have made no progress in all this time) besides the fact I desired to travel in this direction. I talked to dom online who wanted naked pictures, being nieve I sent them. The relationship did not last very long, as I found he knew little about being a dom and suspected he was just a player looking for gratification online. He was pissed at me for ending this, and several months later I read his profile which in its contents he stated that he had alot of naked pictures of women that he would share with others. From that day onward I was leary. I talked to another man online who wanted to do the webcam thing, said he would broadcast it out to his business associates. Another be warned red flag event.


Dreams,

Thanks for sharing those nightmars. I hope many new path walkers read them

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:33:57 PM)

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I believe that someone already mentioned that relationships are not just ‘sex based or based upon sexuality”.


tahlly,

whether it is sex based or task based, the issue if thepower to command and compliance when it has not been earned.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:36:19 PM)

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OMG! I'm supposed to masturbate on webcam for him and provide a detailed description of my fantasies for his analysis?


Treasure,

Chuickles,kindly send me your address and I will see to it that your get a 9th edition copy.

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:37:41 PM)

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if I have a Master then it means one too many glasses of wine on that last ebay bid thinking it meant mix master! <http://www.collarchat.com/image/s3.gif> Welcome back CP, you've been missed.


a slight bow to Mlady!


CP




lizcgirl -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 12:38:15 PM)

Asking if every sub/slave knows the depth of what they are commiting themselves to is a question you can't ask on a whole and get a right answer for. That's like asking if every person who gets married knows what they are agreeing to- some do, some don't. Yes, new people are excited, bouncy even, about finally finding what they've been missing, but I don't think that's a bad thing. Afterall, if it we don't do it to be happy, what the hell do we do it for? I don't want to ever become a person who looks at my life choices with a 'blah' attitude, I want to be excited about it for as long as I am involved in it. My Master has been VERY upfront with me, He's warned me of the things I will be told to do, the limits I will have to push past. I know this. And when I offered myself, I didn't do it under the illusion that these things would never happen. I do what I'm told because that is what I agreed to. It isn't limited to sexual acts, it affects every aspect of my life-- because I gave my life to Him. Slavery isn't something any one should take to lightly, but you can't simply point the blame at the nieve sub who gives themselves too soon, you also have to lay part of the blame at the Dominant who accepted the offer knowing the person was unprepared to make an informed decision. Even though you hand over youself to this person, it is still a 2 person choice, therefor a 2 person mistake if one or the other wasn't ready and prepared.




TreasureKY -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 1:57:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

OMG!  I'm supposed to masturbate on webcam for him and provide a detailed description of my fantasies for his analysis?

This isn't in the handbook!  Why didn't anyone tell me?



Tsk, tsk...see what happens when you play hooky and miss a class day?  You don't get the WRITTEN notes.[:@]


Damn! 

I'm really dreading Firm getting home... I've got to figure out some way to explain to him that I've been doing it wrong all this time.




Justme696 -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 2:49:36 PM)

Well if we had known all upfront..I wouldn't want to be born.
So I don't expect a sub or slave to have a business plan and to know all in detail (it is impossible). That takes the fun away of learning eachother.
How can a sub know what a MAster will ask. PErhaps he asks her to do something she didn't even know about.
Same counts for the Dom's...do they know the responsibility having an s.




MadRabbit -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 2:56:10 PM)

I read somewhere that they have this new toy that is basically a canister you can stick your dick into and it feels just like the inside of a pussy.

Now all they need to do is make a mechanical rubber cock that feels like a real cock, then connect both via the magic of the Internet so the movements inside the canister control the movements of the rubber cock.

And WAH LAH!

60% of people won't be leaving their houses anymore....




CreativeDominant -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 3:23:23 PM)

Baaaaaaaaad girl, Omega...bad.  Go to my room...[;)]

Treasure...if you'd like, I'll try and put a good word in with Firm for you but yanno, young lady...you really MUST start paying more attention.  [;)]




RavenMuse -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 3:52:16 PM)

The thing that strikes Me is the 'examples' You use are simple wankfodder and nothing really about submission. Questions I would find more relevant is things like how they can cope with their opinion being listened to and then submitting to their Masters decision which is contrary to that opinion... can they give it their whole effort simply because it is His will even when it goes against what they would have chosen for themself? etc.




FirmhandKY -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 4:45:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

OMG!  I'm supposed to masturbate on webcam for him and provide a detailed description of my fantasies for his analysis?

This isn't in the handbook!  Why didn't anyone tell me?



Tsk, tsk...see what happens when you play hooky and miss a class day?  You don't get the WRITTEN notes.[:@]


Damn! 

I'm really dreading Firm getting home... I've got to figure out some way to explain to him that I've been doing it wrong all this time.



No, no, no, Treasure ... they are talking about the New American Gilded Sub School for Pathetic and Poetic Postulant Yangs school of submission (the famous NAGSS for PaPPY school of training).

I enrolled you in the Patience's European Renewed Formulated Energy Combined Traditional school of sub training (the PERFECT sub school, of course).

You do, however, seem to have forgotten that you graduated just about a week ago.

Congrats.  [8D]

Firm




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 5:46:39 PM)

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You use the word "Master", yet your example is of specific acts--and a rather limited range of specific acts, at that.

There is so much more to a M/s (remember, you used the word "Master"-- not 'Dom' or 'Top') relationship than just having the sub expose herself (and, why do you assume the submissive is necessarily female? There are male subs, too. Yet, your example is of a sub using a 'dildo for his viewing pleasure'...

I don't think you really understand what a D/s or M/s relationship is.

While My submissive and I (and W/we've been together for four months, as of today) have fantasized about being in front of a live audience, having her perform on webcam (where the performance could be recorded by random strangers) isn't something that interests Me (or her) in the least. O/our relationship is about trust, and the joy W/we take in each O/other. I don't need the approval of a bunch of faceless folks on the web, to feel that I have power over her.

Give this some thought, and you just might start to 'get' it...


Flogging,

it appears that your a very snsitive person or you cannot ponder the intent of the post.

Allow me to help you in that regard.

I use the term "Master" simply because that is the term of reference that is used by the newcomers that have been sucked into something prematurely.

you seem to take isue with the post in general and thats alright, but to suggest that I do not understand what a D/s M/s relationship is all about simply made me laugh and while just for a moment I considered laying out for you subjective eyes my credentials; it just as quickly came to me that it was not necessary.

As to your erroneous position that i excluded male subs; perhaps you have never seen a male sub with a dildo in his ass / but it happens alot, please check with the nearest Domme. Thanks for your thoughts as I continue my quest to "get it".

CP




CelticPrince -> RE: So Now you have a Master?????? (5/7/2008 5:51:25 PM)

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I am not sure I get this. I have no problem masturbating in front of a mate, but what is the point of doing it on webcam when you are face to face? Ok.. let's say he is out of town, why is "performing" the indicator of submitting? There are way too many bozos out there who call themselves master and use that method to get some their wank material for later use. I do not get why people would do that if only in a cyber relationship. You never know where that vid might end up, and you can see that all over the net. If it is a mixture of real and cyber, then I would hope that you really know where it ends up.


Miss,

The fact that you do not get it is a good thing, as my point is that in many instances it happens to the disadvantage of the newcomer which leave them with a poor view of the lifestyle.

CP




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