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YourhandMyAss -> Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/8/2008 9:55:52 PM)

Every single freaking month there's a bunch of fradulent charges, and they can't tell me why. I've changed the account a billion times had it cancled had it put on hold ect ect, and today just now I found 4 more fraudulent charges. this is beginning to piss me off. Royally. they are also extreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamly slooooooooooooooooow dealing with fraud reports, last time it took me like over a year to get anywhere, an then once they determined I WAS owed money it took them like 6 months to issue me a check. I was going to keep this card because the 3 thoughsand dollar limit, but this has killed any interest I had in their company or doing business.




Leatherist -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/8/2008 9:57:55 PM)

suggest to support that an irs audit may be due if it continues.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/8/2008 10:47:55 PM)

ARG Why can't tech support people speak english, or speak it with out a huge thick heavy accent. I can't understand a fucking word he said, and he mumbled so much I had to keep saying I can't understand you, then he'd pause and not say anything then I'd have to ask him to clarify, then he would repeat but mumbling again. I had to repeat myself several times, on the same thing, and after explaining once why the company owed me  money he had the balls to ask why does the company owe you money.

[:@][sm=anger.gif]




DomKen -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/8/2008 10:56:52 PM)

You shouldn't have called customer service. Beyond the fact that all those Indian call centers can do is read a script your problem is more serious. The CC company probably has a fraud hotline number or just call the number for canceling your card. Telling a salesperson, virtually always an american, that if your problem can't be resolved you'll simply take your business elsewhere tends to work wonders.

As to your actual problem. Are you shredding or otherwise making your statements illegible when you throw away your CC statements? If not a dumpster diver might be at work and you'll need to get all your numbers changed and then always shred all documents with any of those numbers.

If its not that are you careful with where you use it online? Does fraud start happening after you buy from a specific site?




Termyn8or -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 12:02:10 AM)

First of all if Walmart is involved, what did you expect ? You look in that big building, three people are making money, everybody else is on welfare. And ythat is not bullshit.

First of all, when there are fraudulent charges ther are two possibilities. One is that somebody got all your numbers and places phone orders having "gifts" delivered to their friends, the only other way is to be in physical possesion of the card.

A Walmart employee would be a prime suspect, they all need money, and they have access to the information.

On your statement there is a unique ID number for each entity that charges against your card. Does that number match the number for the times you actually DID charge something at Walmart ? If so, the investigation should be quite simple. Since they were not in physicalpossesion of the card at the time the charge must be done on a computer. It did not come up the pipe from a card reader. If it did that would mean that a duplicate card was run off when you applied for it. Most likely though, the thief is playing the odds.

Letme tell you how people are, if you are young and just getting credit, or for any reason are just getting credit, they do not care about you. There is X amount of chance that Daddy is paying the card or something like that. They play the odds.

Actually the odds of someone noticing times the odds of it ever coming back to them makes it a pretty good bet. So they do it. They don't care if they wreck your credit, and even if Daddy is paying the card, they don't care if they wreck your relationship. Not at all.

My best advice would be to contact the state attourney general's office and see if you can prod them into an investigation. If you can, don't report the card stolenor anything, let the thief do somemore dirty work, that is how they will catch him.

If you have anyone else on the account with you, everything changes, everything. But that is not what you said.

Personally I would have never applied for any kind of card at Walmart, go to a real bank. But that's just me.

If the company cooperates it will be traced back to one person, if not they are guilty of obstructing justice, so in the end you really should not lose. Unless you have someone on the account with you.

T




angelikaJ -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 3:50:56 AM)

I am going to suggest the possibility of something you won't like:
is it even remotely possible that those charges are from someone in your household using the card without permission?





Asherdelampyr -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 4:29:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

ARG Why can't tech support people speak english, or speak it with out a huge thick heavy accent. I can't understand a fucking word he said, and he mumbled so much I had to keep saying I can't understand you, then he'd pause and not say anything then I'd have to ask him to clarify, then he would repeat but mumbling again. I had to repeat myself several times, on the same thing, and after explaining once why the company owed me  money he had the balls to ask why does the company owe you money.

[:@][sm=anger.gif]


See, this is why these jobs need to be un-outsourced!!!
Whos wit me!!!




pahunkboy -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 4:59:36 AM)

I was warned about this.  that charges can follow to a new number.

dont pay it.

--contact the agency that regulates  them.  file a complaint- you can do this online.






angelikaJ -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 5:14:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I was warned about this.  that charges can follow to a new number.

dont pay it.

--contact the agency that regulates  them.  file a complaint- you can do this online.





call the state attorney general
also you may find it helpful to contact the TV consumer affairs reporter for your area...they love that stuff...
once you are certain the charges weren't made from someone in your household




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 8:51:45 AM)

We don't  usually throw sensitive information out around here we burn it in the fire or shred it an then burn it. When I do throw sensitive info away I tear it into itty bitty tiny pieces and put it into two diffrent trash bags. The charges started years ago right after buying on ebay and using paypal,  so a bunch of th em was for stuff and people that never even exsisted on paypal, then stuff for ross dress for less started showing up, and I don't even shop at ross dress for less neither does any one else in my house and the company claims they don't even have a department store in north highlands. Ross Dress for less is ALWAYS on this list, and so is fake paypal names. So I told the company they reported it stolen, changed the cc number, it kept happening, told them about 10 more times every time it kept happening. I finally ended up putting a block on the card.

Angelika it's not people in my house, this has been going on for about 2 years, and I am the only one authorised to use it, the only one who has a card an the only one who knows the 4 digit password. This shit all started after using my card to pay for stuff on ebay through paypal 2 years ago. I just finally put a block on the card an never used it again but I needed it and took the block off and as soon as I did well here comes the fraudulent charges again.
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


As to your actual problem. Are you shredding or otherwise making your statements illegible when you throw away your CC statements? If not a dumpster diver might be at work and you'll need to get all your numbers changed and then always shred all documents with any of those numbers.

If its not that are you careful with where you use it online? Does fraud start happening after you buy from a specific site?




angelikaJ -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 8:56:49 AM)

Call the attorney general office for your state then.




DomKen -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 9:00:30 AM)

That's very odd. I use paypal and ebay a lot and have never had a problem. It's possible you got redirected to a scam 'paypal' site and didn't catch it and once they had your CC number they got the rest of your info. I think its likely time to contact your state's ID theft task force, probably state patrol or the like.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 9:12:09 AM)

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ARG Why can't tech support people speak english,


because the hire foreign people off the street with no previous work experience and pay them minimum wage at best.  this is for almost any tech support anywhere in the world. they do get a 2 or 3 week training course from the company.


telemarketers always call me offering me free phone..i cant understand the person who is talking..i had to hang up yelling at them... I DONT WANT THE PHONE.  they kept repeating to me..its free..its free..its free...  bullshit.  then he had the balls to tell me we're going to send you a $400 bill.  go ahead i'll sue you for millions...send me a bill for a phone i never had.. idiots i tell you.





YourhandMyAss -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 9:23:30 AM)

The charges aren't at walmart, they're for paypal with names and transaction numbers that never exsisted, for example, one of the guys on my statement is TIGERTOES39 an there's no such seller on ebay or paypal. and they're for local companies in town, IE ross dress for less.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

First of all if Walmart is involved, what did you expect ? You look in that big building, three people are making money, everybody else is on welfare. And ythat is not bullshit.

First of all, when there are fraudulent charges ther are two possibilities. One is that somebody got all your numbers and places phone orders having "gifts" delivered to their friends, the only other way is to be in physical possesion of the card.

A Walmart employee would be a prime suspect, they all need money, and they have access to the information.

On your statement there is a unique ID number for each entity that charges against your card. Does that number match the number for the times you actually DID charge something at Walmart ? T




Termyn8or -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 10:41:59 AM)

DK, we agree on something, how bout that ?

Redirection is a big thing to consider. Once they got your numbers once they got them. A few things still puzzle me though. If the number was changed and the charges started appearing again, something happened.

If you have done all this via PC I would seriously suspect a keylogger on your system. Last time I lost a CC they insisted on giving me a new number, and then the few recurring charges I allow, which pay for my internet, stopped. Now if AOL and SBC can't do it who can ?

I realize things have changed, and now they do automatically switch your recurrent payments to the new card. Not sure I am happy with that, but it doesn't explain this.

It is possible that this has nothing to do with online transactions, when you are approved for a CC you can put anyone you want on the account. But then so can the call taker or the clerk who processes it. That may have happened.

I have a situation where I am on several joint cards, but we pay our own. It should be in the left column, 001 or 002 etc., something like that. Somewhere it indicates which card was used. They have all kinds of formats for this, but it is there somewhere.

But then if the number changed, how would they get the new number ? I can only think of a few ways.

T




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 10:46:56 AM)

quote:

The charges aren't at walmart, they're for paypal with names and transaction numbers that never exsisted,


if you are getting these charges from paypal.  someone in your family using your email obviously replied to one of the paypal emails that are known frauds (and gave them your credit card or debit #'s) and have been going out for atleast 5 years now.  therefore these accounts are only used once to spend whatever they can get off your credit card and then the account on paypal is deleted.  it is identity theft.

you have no chance on catching these paypal frauds nor getting your money back.

you have to cancel the bank account...go to a new bank and open a new account and dont give that info to anyone...anywhere.  and stop using these #s online.





sub4hire -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 1:35:13 PM)

I suggest you send Proudsub an e-mail on the other side.  It wasn't too long ago she had some sort of identity theft going on.  I believe I read here on the boards she got it all straightened out.
Maybe she can give you some pointers.

If it were me...I'd close the account.  Of course if there is a charge within 30 days they will re-open it for you....I've been down that road before. 





pahunkboy -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 2:51:13 PM)

paypal has a ton of fake email pretenders.

it isnt the bank- it is a con aritst.  you probaly paid on a fake website.

i have used paypal- couple dozen times. i never repond to paypal email.

you need to CLOSE that acount and no longer do business with that bank.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 4:30:49 PM)

Actually once you beat the company into submnission they will refund ALL fraudulent charges, the fight is just getting them to agree to the fact they're fraud an you're in the right, which can take a ton of time. I will be closing this account after I deal with them. They';ve lost any second or third chance I might of been willing to give them.

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

quote:

The charges aren't at walmart, they're for paypal with names and transaction numbers that never exsisted,




you have no chance on catching these paypal frauds nor getting your money back.

you have to cancel the bank account...go to a new bank and open a new account and dont give that info to anyone...anywhere.  and stop using these #s online.






Griswold -> RE: Walmart GE money bank credit card repeated fraud showing up (5/9/2008 4:55:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Every single freaking month there's a bunch of fradulent charges, and they can't tell me why. I've changed the account a billion times had it cancled had it put on hold ect ect, and today just now I found 4 more fraudulent charges. this is beginning to piss me off. Royally. they are also extreaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamly slooooooooooooooooow dealing with fraud reports, last time it took me like over a year to get anywhere, an then once they determined I WAS owed money it took them like 6 months to issue me a check. I was going to keep this card because the 3 thoughsand dollar limit, but this has killed any interest I had in their company or doing business.


Is this for real?

Now seriously...all you Wal-Mart haters...hold back...seriously...is this truly for real?




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