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hopelessfool -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:18:37 PM)
Dom Aviator: Does that mean Im married to my cat weve been living together for 3 years... Id hate for her to rebel and take me for everything Im worth... Maybe Kitttty can be my lawer if she does... Okay I promise Ill try to behave myself..

kitttty -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:20:22 PM)
quote: I agree. What do you think is going to happen if he does dump you or you leave him? Are you going to become a crack whore? If you have this low of an opinion of yourself, than you need to see a shrink. I might become a crack whore. Hard to say. My shrink is not the right person to ask. He wants to be my Dom.

kc692 -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:28:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomAviator Hye I just reached an epiphany... Since you were a Pro-Domme you obviously know how to be a bitch... So why dont you obey "master", go to law school then cry palimony and take him for half his shit and get a lien on the other half.... Then dont practice, just retire on all masters assets and what he as to pay you each month! LOL Bet the next sub he will counsel to prepare for a career as a Hooters girl! [:D] Months ago in another thread that was why she wanted to get married. That way if the marriage failed, she would be taken care of because she would have half his stuff, and if she had children he would have to keep helping her. (Those statements are hers not mine) I believe the topic at the time was "he wants to put my pics somewhere but if he would go on and marry me, I do not care because then he is obligated to give me half of everything. I don;'t need to go to law school because I want him to marry me and take care of me. He already has a lot of money, etc etc etc" So possibly, you are really in fact saying I want to go abroad and have some fun and still figure out a way for him to take care of me, because what if I fall flat on my face? I still need his money. Just my[sm=2cents.gif] of course, your mileage may vary. edited to add:and of course if I would have read later in the thread her very words: Because I am not married to him. I do worry that part of his reason for not marrying me is his financial situation. He has a privately held company that has some chance of going public. Thus he might have 10X the amount of money he has now a few years from now. Marrying him now would mean that half of this is mine. I assume that this is a major impetus for him not to marry me. Of course, once he has all that money, I would assume that he could do better than me and might dump me if we are not married. Thus the only thing I can hope for is that his company fails financially. So lets recap: he stands to make 10 times the amount of money he has, but you want him to fail so that he will still take care of you and not dump you to the curb...rfl.....oh yeah thats love, you love him, I always want who I love to fail so they have to take care of me...yep yep yep[sm=noway.gif]

hopelessfool -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:29:12 PM)
Yeah. And my butcher wants to be my sugar daddy. If you are honestly this unbalanced. I can recommend a few numbers where the men in white coats will come and lock you up... They will tell you when to eat when to sleep what to do during the day The even give you worksheets to do ^_^ .....sorry my tea had extra snark today

KyttynTheMynx -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:29:49 PM)
Kitttty, I am gonna be honest with you. You dont need a Dom. You need some personal time with yourself to make yourself stronger so that you can be that driving force behind yourself to make you go out and do what needs to get done. 20 years down the road, if he dies, are you just gonna sit there with a thumb up your ass and wait for someone to tell you whats next, or are you gonna handle things on your own? If he boots your ass outta the door, are you just gonna live on the streets and wander from person to person begging them to tell you whats next? Time to be a big girl sweetie. I know its hard, but in the end, you will be 1000 times better for it, and the clients in whatever profession you choose will be better off too!

DomAviator -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:32:51 PM)
Lesson 1 Wikipedia is not a valid resource. Lesson 2. Palimony is a colloquial term not a legal one it is actually generally covered under the statue of frauds and is heard in the trial court. In California it began with Marvin v. Marvin, 18 Cal.3d 660 (1976). It has progressed to other states some relevant citations of which are below: Alaska – Levar v. Elkins, 604 P.2d 602 (1980). Arizona – Carroll v. Lee, 148 Ariz. 10, 712 P.2d 923 (1986); Cook v. Cook, 142 Ariz. 573, 691 P.2d 664 (1984). Connecticut – Boland v. Catalano, 202 Conn. 333, 521 A.2d 142 (1987). Florida – Poe v. Estate of Levy, 411 So. 2d 253 (1982). Hawaii – Maria v. Frietas, 832 P.2d 259 (1992). Indiana – Glasgo v. Glasgo, 410 N.E.2d 1325 (1980). Iowa – Slorum v. Hammond, 346 N.W.2d 485 (1984). Maryland – Donovan v. Seuderi, 51 Md. App. 217, 443 A.2d 121 (1982). Massachusetts – Green v. Richmond, 369 Mass. 47, 337 N.E.2d 691 (1975). Michigan – Carnes v. Sheldon, 109 Mich. App. 204, 311 N.W.2d 747 (1981); Tyranski v. Piggins, 44 Mich. App. 570, 205 N.W.2d 595 (1973). Mississippi – Pickens v. Pickens, 490 So. 2d 872 (1986). Nebraska – Kinkenon v. Hue, 207 Neb. 698, 301 N.W.2d 77 (1981). Nevada – Hay v. Hay, 100 Nev. 196, 678 P.2d 672 (1984); Warren v. Warren, 94 Nev. 309, 579 P.2d 772 (1978). New Hampshire – Joan S. v. John S., 121 N.H. 96, 427 A.2d 498 (1981); Tapley v. Tapley, 122 N.H. 727, 449 A.2d 1218 (1982). New Jersey – Crowe v. DeGioia, 90 N.J. 126, 447 A.2d 173, appeal after remand, 303 N.J. Super. 22, 495 A.2d 889, aff'd., 102 N.J. 50, 505 A.2d 591 (1986). New Mexico – Dominguez v. Cruz, 95 N.M. 1, 617 P.2d 1322 (1980). New York – Morone v. Morone, 50 N.Y.2d 481, 429 N.Y.S.2d 592, 407 N.E.2d 438 (1980). North Carolina – Suggs v. Norris, 88 N.C. App. 539, 364 S.E.2d 159, cert. denied, 322 N.C. 486, 370 S.E.2d 236 (1988). Oregon – Beal v. Beal, 282 Or. 115, 577 P.2d 507 (1978); Ireland v. Flanagan, 51 Or. App. 837, 627 P.2d 496 (1981). Pennsylvania – Mullen v. Suchko, 279 Pa. Super. 499, 421 A.2d 310 (1980). Texas – Small v. Harper, 638 S.W.2d 24 (1982). Washington – In re Estates of Thornton, 81 Wash.2d 72, 499 P.2d 864 (1972). Wisconsin – Watts v. Watts, 137 Wis.2d 506, 405 N.W.2d 303 (1987); Matter of Estate of Steffes, 95 Wis.2d 490, 290 N.W.2d 697 (1980). Wyoming – Kinnison v. Kinnison, 627 P.2d 594 (1981). Furthermore, in many states there is the issue of "common law marriage".... To name a few Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Oklahoma, and Texas which have various requirements for formation. For example in Texas, claiming to be someones spouse while cohabitating.... (Such as if a live in gf says "this is his wife" or she otherwise uses your last name)... etc... The law is complex. Learn it to protect yourself and avoid the doormat syndrome - you have rights know them and be prepared to exercise them....

kitttty -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:35:27 PM)
quote: Months ago in another thread that was why she wanted to get married. That way if the marriage failed, she would be taken care of because she would have half his stuff, and if she had children he would have to keep helping her. (Those statements are hers not mine) I believe the topic at the time was "he wants to put my pics somewhere but if he would go on and marry me, I do not care because then he is obligated to give me half of everything. I don;'t need to go to law school because I want him to marry me and take care of me. He already has a lot of money, etc etc etc" I am obsessed with being married as some people are into being locked up in cages at night or into being full toilets. Marriage is a weird fetish I have. My sentiment is not that I value marriage because it will obligate a man to pay me half assets in case of divorce. My sentiments are that I value marriage as part of a D/s relationship because it forces the Dom to have an actual investment into which gives him a reason not to make irresponsible decisions about me. It's sort of a security deposit. You can't fuck up the condo you rent because if you do, you don't get your security deposit back. In my case, you ought not fuck me up as a sub if you are my husband because then you have to deal with 1) a fucked up wife or 2) loss of half of assets. I think that's entirely logical. And I don't need my Dom for money. I can find a richer boyfriend in about a day and a half. Not kidding.

kc692 -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:36:50 PM)
If he dies in 20 years, I bet with all the money left she will all of a sudden become strong, and able to spend and make decisions with no problems.

kitttty -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:37:22 PM)
quote: Furthermore, in many states there is the issue of "common law marriage".... To name a few Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Oklahoma, and Texas which have various requirements for formation. For example in Texas, claiming to be someones spouse while cohabitating.... (Such as if a live in gf says "this is his wife" or she otherwise uses your last name)... etc... Cohabitation takes about a decade to become a common law marriage. Look, I am not getting anything for being my Master's sub of 1 year. It's just not happening no matter how you interpret the law. And I don't want half his stuff anyways.

KyttynTheMynx -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:39:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty quote: Furthermore, in many states there is the issue of "common law marriage".... To name a few Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Oklahoma, and Texas which have various requirements for formation. For example in Texas, claiming to be someones spouse while cohabitating.... (Such as if a live in gf says "this is his wife" or she otherwise uses your last name)... etc... Cohabitation takes about a decade to become a common law marriage. Look, I am not getting anything for being my Master's sub of 1 year. It's just not happening no matter how you interpret the law. And I don't want half his stuff anyways. I hate to say it, but it sounds like you do want half his stuff. You said you want him to marry you because it would cause him to take financial responsibility in case hes "fucks you up", because then you would have half his assets.

kitttty -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:41:32 PM)
quote: You said you want him to marry you because it would cause him to take financial responsibility in case hes "fucks you up", because then you would have half his assets. No. I want it to be motivation for him not to fuck me up. I really do not want half his stuff. I don't want him to leave me, ever. I want to leave him because I fear he will not marry me and will instead fuck me up.

hopelessfool -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:42:52 PM)
Wait You think marrige is your security deposit to treat you right? So explain the wife beaters... the Husbands who kill their wives The husbands who otherwise harm their wives in life there is no such thing as a security deposit... theres risk and theres conquences for that risk and rewards for that risk... Instead of looking for a secrurity deposit dom, how about looking for a Dom who will treat you right because Egads he cares for you... Never been married, and If i found someone I was that compatable with, marriage wouldnt mean much. While his collar is not legally binding, It would be enough for me. Why? Because for me to take that collar its to know that he wants whats best for me, cares for me and will always make sure Im okay, He wont harm me he wont have a want to harm me... Who would harm their most treasured possession?

Aileen1968 -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:43:52 PM)
You kinda already seem pretty fucked up based on your postings.

kc692 -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:46:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty quote: Months ago in another thread that was why she wanted to get married. That way if the marriage failed, she would be taken care of because she would have half his stuff, and if she had children he would have to keep helping her. (Those statements are hers not mine) I believe the topic at the time was "he wants to put my pics somewhere but if he would go on and marry me, I do not care because then he is obligated to give me half of everything. I don;'t need to go to law school because I want him to marry me and take care of me. He already has a lot of money, etc etc etc" I am obsessed with being married as some people are into being locked up in cages at night or into being full toilets. Marriage is a weird fetish I have. My sentiment is not that I value marriage because it will obligate a man to pay me half assets in case of divorce. My sentiments are that I value marriage as part of a D/s relationship because it forces the Dom to have an actual investment into which gives him a reason not to make irresponsible decisions about me. It's sort of a security deposit. You can't fuck up the condo you rent because if you do, you don't get your security deposit back. In my case, you ought not fuck me up as a sub if you are my husband because then you have to deal with 1) a fucked up wife or 2) loss of half of assets. I think that's entirely logical. And I don't need my Dom for money. I can find a richer boyfriend in about a day and a half. Not kidding. make up your mind. If you can get a richer one, than you would not need to marry this one because if he makes killer money on a business deal, he may dump your ass (again, your words not mine, and if I dredged that thread up, yes you were worried about the money). So if in fact you dont need your dom for money as you have already said you did, you needed half his assets because if he made more in 6 months he might not want you. As far as irresponsible decisions about you, he is the one that made you go back to school, yet again, really irresponsible. You are the one that stated you had nothing if you did not marry him before he sold that business before you got him married. Seems that by wishing him misfortune you are fucking him up as a husband were you even to get married anyway because you already wish harm on one you supposedly love. If you can find a richer boyfriend in a day and a half, nope not kidding, (your words ) go for it.....but [sm=whoa.gif], the light just went off, you might not be able to nail his assets....you dont want a boyfriend, you want a husband for all your aforementioned. I'm thinking your dom is a very intelligent individual and surely is aware of all this...that may be why he might never marry you...he knows better.

kc692 -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:48:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty quote: Furthermore, in many states there is the issue of "common law marriage".... To name a few Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Oklahoma, and Texas which have various requirements for formation. For example in Texas, claiming to be someones spouse while cohabitating.... (Such as if a live in gf says "this is his wife" or she otherwise uses your last name)... etc... Cohabitation takes about a decade to become a common law marriage. Look, I am not getting anything for being my Master's sub of 1 year. It's just not happening no matter how you interpret the law. And I don't want half his stuff anyways. So, basically you KNOW you cant stand to be with him 10 years, but you want to marry him now, because you said this deal may go through in 6 months. Therefore for a year and a half, (because it is CLEAR you do not intend to stay 10. or any longer than you have to) you expect what took him years and Im guessing possibly decades to build up....

KyttynTheMynx -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:48:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty quote: You said you want him to marry you because it would cause him to take financial responsibility in case hes "fucks you up", because then you would have half his assets. No. I want it to be motivation for him not to fuck me up. I really do not want half his stuff. I don't want him to leave me, ever. I want to leave him because I fear he will not marry me and will instead fuck me up. Have you even given this man the benefit of a doubt that maybe, just maybe he is testing you to see if you are strong enough to be his wife, and carry all the stress (at times) that it entails? If I was this man, your ass would have been gone a while ago. To be a wife, and a parent, you need initiative to act on your own at a moments notice. Things happen in a split second that you cant sit on your haunches and hem and haw over whether or not he would be pleased about.

kitttty -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:50:17 PM)
quote: While his collar is not legally binding, It would be enough for me. Why? Because for me to take that collar its to know that he wants whats best for me, cares for me and will always make sure Im okay, He wont harm me he wont have a want to harm me... Who would harm their most treasured possession? Not for me. A collar just does not do it. I can't even feel the meaning of a collar unless I believe the person who put it on me intends to marry me. Like I said, it's my fetish. Some people can only submit to people in latex. I can only submit to someone who psychologically fills the role of husband. And yes, I absolutely believe in the importance of marriage. It's something that every society on the face of the earth has invented because "honey I promise I'll take good care of you" does not stand up. If private agreements actually held up, marriage would not be a concept with official sanctioning in every country out there.

hopelessfool -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:51:23 PM)
Then sweetheart... Marry me.. Ill show you how wonderful that little peice of paper can be....

kitttty -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:52:19 PM)
quote: So, basically you KNOW you cant stand to be with him 10 years, but you want to marry him now, because you said this deal may go through in 6 months. Therefore for a year and a half, (because it is CLEAR you do not intend to stay 10. or any longer than you have to) you expect what took him years and Im guessing possibly decades to build up.... hmm? I do not expect this to happen in six months. That would make my life easy. Then we could just get married after six months. I expect this to happen in perhaps 3-5 years, which is annoying because if it were 10 years, it would be worth just getting married now and if it were 1 year it would be worth waiting. This time period is exactly what is hard for me to tolerate in limbo.

hopelessfool -> RE: Sigh. I am in at law school. (5/10/2008 11:54:25 PM)
Kittty ... If you want marriage so bad Honestly Go get a guy drunk take him to the court house and VOILA... Marriage... You get your wish and when he gets off his drunk well.. he might just show you how wonderful a husband can be...

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