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Turn of events - 5/12/2008 10:48:31 PM   
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My old flame called me today. On Mother's [after] day, I did not even call, but that is not the point. Her brother was here and tried to call Mom, which gave her my new phone number.

Now understand who this is, she is the only Woman in the world that I ever wanted to have kids with, and years ago I was scared of her. Any advantage like that would be capitalised upon. In a way, that is how we all were.

I heard her voice after well over twenty years and I heard something I have not heard in a long time. See after I went away she became a lesbian. I am not taking that opportunity to say anything of the sort you might be thinking, like that if she couldn't have me she did not want a Man. Nothing of the sort. Of course at this point I certainly hope she is at least bi.

Maybe you have never found your one, but after all these years the friendship at least in her voice encouraged me quite a bit. The phone rang and she had to go, but she told me to call her anyttime.

That made my day. Our seperation came about via a very drunk day of mine, something I will probably never live down. I was toast and I threatened to rape her. Now I would never harm a hair on her head, but old man alcohol was involved and I was ostricised.

I fucked it up really bad and I suspect that I did it because of my own insecurities. Doctor, heal thyself is something I take seriously. I was afraid. I admit it.

But hearing her voice again and being friendly, that makes me want to change my life. Take the other life, with her. This episode has rekindled old desires to the point where I would jump right now.

Let this be a warning to anyone who might hook up with me, I will never feel the same way about anyone as her.

I am gong to go over there, I want to be with her. Not for sex or anything, but I want to touch her. I want to hold her hands in mine like the day when her car broke down 25 years ago in a blizzard. I want to comfort her and make her happy.

I have never felt this way about anyone else. I am ecstatic about the fact that she is willing to be friends. If I get more, let me rephrase that, if I get to give her more all the better.

I don't know what to do, if I hook up with her on any level she is a Woman, therefore she will figure out my vulnerability very quickly. That means I will have to trust her not to take advantage of the situation.

Should I ? I have never known her to be dishonest with me in any major way, we could probably be just friends and never explore that, but that would be hard for me. I am well able to handle it, but if I am to take any kind of tiger's tail, I'll take her's. It may be a challenge but fuck it, you only live once.

And you don't even know what she is like. You think I am outspoken and provocative ? Wrong. If we hook up I'll get her to get a membership here. She will probably get kicked off a couple of times in the beginning, maybe. But I was impressed with her responses in our conversation, so everything might be cool.

I did take the first step and told her I still had that torch, you know what I mean. That is the way I said it. Her response was a bit cryptic, but I have no idea what she has learned in the last twenty years.She does have a better job than I, but that means shit. The last thing in the world I would ever do is ask her for anything, even a cigarette.

I hope you are all satisfied that I brought this up. My self assured ass is not so big anymore, because I really am in some doubt. Enjoy. Enjoy the fact that no matter who we are, something like this can befuddle us. It's true. Look at me right now.

Just remember folks that I, the rock, hard place and irresistable force all rolled into one, is also vulnerable. But only to one.

The one. What the fuck am I going to do ? Oh, and she is kinky too. She had handcuffs before I did.

This is really too much. I might do what I used to do. Some daredevil shit to either make her swoon or get my ass killed. Either works. Not being in a superior position is not acceptable to me. I don't care how much I l-l-l-l-ove her,OK I said it. I am not going to be anything but on top in a relationship with her. I am absolutely sure she is "switchable" if only she goes bi.

But I want so much more than sex, I want her with me here and now. To see what I am typoing, and read others' typoing. You people are like a family to me in a way, part of it is the anonymity, but others bare their souls here. So why not ? I have only revealed all this to two people in the world so far, other than this post.

Hey, I said she is kinky, maybe she is here reading that right now.

Now you people know that I very rarely, if ever admit to even  having feelings, yet today I proclaim them. Yes my friends, she is really that special.

I am drained, I simply can't think of anything else to say right now.

T
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RE: Turn of events - 5/12/2008 11:07:11 PM   
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awwww, Termy's in love!  that's sweet!  i hope it works out for you.   amazing what hindsight can show us.  things we didn't know then become clear now.  we don't always get a second chance to connect with someone we once cared about.  give it your best shot.
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RE: Turn of events - 5/12/2008 11:17:23 PM   
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yeah, what PM said..I wish you well, Termy... *hug*

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 12:05:05 AM   
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Oh yes, I think Pmom's advice flies quite well.

I have to do this on my own first, become "one" with her, but after that I would like for us to go to events and such. Fuck, she is already a lesbian and I am pretty sure she has had a guy in her life, so she is bi.

She has always been a very interesting person, and she has been online for a long time, it is possible she is here. But I doubt it at the moment. Of course that doesn't mean that Windows can't dredge up a ten year old cookie somewhere :-)

Still reeling. I'll be back when it stops. Or at least slows down enough for me to see WTF is going on.

T

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 4:38:30 AM   
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Dont get her a membership here. You will be limited as to what you can post later.

As to calling her, you will. 

Do you want kids?

Does she want kids?   If so- you might have a project ir-regardless of  lesbien or bi or hetero.


How do I say this. I am a firm believer that one can not go back to yesderday.  I  tried to do this very thing with a handfull. [not all dates]  The best I got was curious.

The question is this.  Is it better to take a chance and possibly have heartbreak, or to never take that chance and be mundane.

She almost has to be tough enough to kick your azz, being the drunk threat.

Persue it, but expect nothing.   expect very little.
[but] you wont.  deep down you wont.

We support you no matter what.  Enjoy.  Stop and smell the roses. You have been in a closed container for a number of months now.

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 4:45:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


. Not being in a superior position is not acceptable to me. I don't care how much I l-l-l-l-ove her,OK I said it. I am not going to be anything but on top in a relationship with her. I am absolutely sure she is "switchable" if only she goes bi.

T


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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 7:53:52 AM   
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What am I a piece of glass LE ?

Hunky sees it too. But I don't think I made that much protest.

The superior position thing, I know her wellenough that I know she wants a Man she can respect, if she wants a Man at all.

It's now the next morning and I am still reeling. I have to get this out of my brain and go to work.

T

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 8:03:38 AM   
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Terminator,

Don't live to regret NOT taking the chance! Best of Luck.

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 8:07:23 AM   
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Honestly T? Yes, I am confident even not knowing her that if she wants a man then she wants a man she can respect, regardless of any formal power dynamic that might be agreed (or imposed LOL!)

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 8:12:44 AM   
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OOPS!

I meant Termyn8tor.

Sorry!

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 8:23:27 AM   
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Go for her, T.

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 8:41:06 AM   
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My 2 cents.
Open the door, see what comes through it.
She wants to be friends, so be friends. If there is even part of what you feel for her still therewith what she feels for you, we can start engraving the invitations now. There is the possibility she wants more, too, since she did go through a bit of trouble to FIND your number.

Wait and see, dont push, and enjoy the ride

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 9:07:31 AM   
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quote:

Let this be a warning to anyone who might hook up with me, I will never feel the same way about anyone as her.

You're not supposed to.  I have loved many women along the way--each one different, each one special, each one unique.

I will never love any woman the way I loved my first woman.....and I never loved my first woman the way I love my current (hopefully last) woman.


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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 9:11:17 AM   
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he cant not.

if anything, to celebrate/acknowledge  the closeness.

People wander for various reasons.

I knew I would get 1 chance to contact my best friend from HS.  I thought on it a few days. 1 chance.  I wrote a paper letter and mailed it to his mom.  3 pages.  Afterwords I thought, why am I climbing up her pussy?   Of the 3 pages the good bad and ugly was in it.  1 item, was telling her how as a kid we elevated his bed with encylcopedias so I could stay over. lol. I also told her how the stair got broke.  [we were imitating the "come on down" price is right] I mentioned we used her make up to hide the break, and it was months before she seen it. LMOA.

Curiously I put my address NOT a phone number in it.    If she holds a grudge after 25 years- so what.

Another was a guy I dated.  He was totally convinced I wanted something.  Finally I gets a letter from him.  We spent a day together. He even helped get mulch. But - I dont know the reason, but now he wont talk to me.  I refuse to hang out in a gay.com or ANY chatroom.   I seen he aged some.  He wasnt able to push too many buttons like before. Anyhow- he is the type the the more honest you are- the harder it is to beleive.

So that was a no go. We could have hung out here. Im in the yard all summer. But instead he will go up to the gay park. My yard will be nicer then a park.  So I wont be there. Nor will I be in chat.

So here we are.

It did HURT for about a week.  
But I guess that is life.

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 10:24:12 AM   
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I just love it when a ruff-n-tuff man exposes his softer side...it's so nice to see...

Saying prayers and wishing you good fortune!


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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 10:43:41 AM   
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   Term,
This is a quote from the writer Erica Jong. My little girl gave it to Me and it fits here so I pass it on to you.
 
  "Do you want me to tell you something really subversive? Love is everything it's cracked up to be. That's why people are so cynical about it...it really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for. And the trouble is, if you don't risk everything, you risk even more."

  I don't know you and even I can see how you feel for this woman. I wish you the best of luck. Go for it!

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RE: Turn of events - 5/13/2008 10:42:19 PM   
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I appreciate the words of encouragement.

Right now my mind is slowing down so I can think rationally. Sometimes. (I did finally get a chance to puff a bit of Mother nature) Understand that fifteen minutes have now passed since I last touched the keyboard.

Understand this much, when I get tangental, going off about governments, condemnning charity, offering contradictory theories on the nature of matter, I am in a certain mode. Doing these things is what tells me that I am not at work.

It took until after eleven PM for me to be alone. I have been thinking about this. (go figure) The first thing I have to get through my skull is that she went lesbian. This might be like talking to another guy. If so fine. But that is going to be after some introspection. I will go see her, but I want the right place and time.

I think I want to go to her house, perhaps I'll make a pizza or something and bring it over, and an apartif of some sort. That is where we met. Now she is a self sufficient Woman, but still lives in the family home, and pays most of the bills. Her Mother was always nice to me, and we played pibnochle about once a week. But this was after a while. But there was a time during which I called her Mom, Mom 2.

Mom 2 was really good at pulling in tricks in pinochle, we always whomped "the kids" in tricks, but the had better luck then the Irish and sometime came up with like 80 meld. That is hard to beat. But we had the strategy, Mom 2 and I. (we almost always got the last trick)

But this is so much later. Shortly after I met her, we were allpartying in the garage, in which they had built a second floor. There was even a window in the back. There may have been 15 people there, but my car was parked in the driveway. Well I was 15 at the time and the truant officer from Lakewood came looking for me.

Well everybody else skyed out the window, her and I were the only ones who came out the front. I should not have let her go first down the ladder :-) I have always bucked authority, and at times I got burned, but slightly singe and not much worse for the wear I am OK.

Well this truant officer looking for me asked if that was my car, and I did not tell him. Then I asked him if he had a gun. He said no. Open season. I told him to get the fuck off of this private property. Mind you this is her house, or at least her family house at the time.

Then he looks at her and asks why she is also not in school. I flared a bit, said something like "This ain't even your fucking jurisdiction, get the fuck off this property", something like that. I figured we would get the party back going on.

I think she liked that. In fact I am sure she liked that. Now remember I was 15, that means she was 13. And she was an athletic tomboy. Bigtime. Said something like "I can't believe you did that" to which I replied "Fukum". Yes, quite the rebel at the time I was.

The other day I told her on the phone that I wish I had let her drive my car. That was the 1970 Toronado I have mentioned. It had these ball and socket AC vents and people would pull the ball out sometimes, and I would get on their case. She did it and I was polite as I could be. "Please don't do that".

She really wanted to drive, this being one of the fastest cars she had ever been in. I did not realize what I had, and I mean it both ways. Nobody drove my Toro after a buddy of mine bent up the last one. You have to drive one to know what I mean, and mean drive it, not pussyfoot around. You could whip the wheel at 50 MPH and it would not break loose.

I will digress into that car in another thread or something. But I almost feel guilty for denying her the experience. I had it until I was almost 18, she was old enough to drive. I smashed it about a week before my 18th birthday.

I am not making any of this up, and I could likely fix it so you could ask her. I guess in a way I can say I am just looking to hook up with a long lost friend. When I do go see her I am going to keep that in mind, and, I want to see Mom 2. She is very old, and I wonder if she will remember me after those strokes.

Yes, I want them to know that I consider them family even after not seeing them for a very long time. Even the ne'er do ell brother is my friend, and as I told her, I would trust him with my life, but not with a dollar.

There is so much I could never recount it all. Damn I must be getting old. She started dealing and I was one of her biggest customers, later she went to prison. I wrote, and I mean wrote her a letter.Remember I can't read or write. To be ledgible I printed in all upper case. I wonder if she still has that letter.


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RE: Turn of events - 5/14/2008 1:08:20 AM   
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Just in case bring contraception. Lesbian or not, you can never be too careful . Bring LOTS of contraceptoion.. In fact go to the drug store and buy one of everything they got - condoms, sponges, female condoms, gels, cremes... Really. take no chances...  

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RE: Turn of events - 5/14/2008 4:04:10 AM   
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you say you cant trust her around $.   hmm.  that would have limitations. what is money?   a tool to meet needs.  yet you trust her in other ways.  which would meet needs.  assuming you have needs or many needs.

shoot at this from the angle that you need a missing peice if the puzzle per lifes survival-utopia-grand scheme mode.  she seems to bring out the creative thinking in you.

at this point you have to do it.  the mom.  it is a sign of respect, a way of saying "you are important, YOU matter".   That is a good thing.

ild want to know if mom recognising you.
in fact, I been thinking.  Dad always said get an education, they cant take that from you.  enter dementia, alsheainers, strokes.  Yeah.  memories can be lost. That annoys me.

I have these dreams of going back to the 80s.  or further.  very nice. but it can never be.

can someone be astoundingly stimulating, but not a lover/mate/gf ?   its hard to know.  deep down we want.

might this be a way -well- the fountain of youth.  Who would refuse that?    

yet- the probability that it wont be forever will sting.   You have had worse set backs tho. 

listen to me telling you to go for it.  thats bad of me. a guy that puts off seeing his mom. I did not make the flight. So I eat a ticket. I hate me for that. I hate me for not being in the car for a 12 hour drive to see her. I hate me for being body pained. I wish I can make it better sooner.

When we were young, we once had music.  dance.   fun. life was a blast.  then we age to mid life. and life is drab, just another day. and frowns.  you know the frown.  look at audiences are lectures. you can tell how old they are by the frown.

Maybe there are needles I can do to my face to make the smile.  a real smile- not a contrived smile.   Life was fun as youth.  Now it (life) just is.

There is no longer any journey, any destination.

Life is empty.

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RE: Turn of events - 5/14/2008 7:52:34 AM   
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No no Hunk, can't trust her BROTHER around money.

T

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