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curiousPAlady -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 2:25:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse quote: ORIGINAL: lilmissdefiant i was wonder how Masters deal with their slaves while they are going through PMS? in my person experience (as in happening right now) i get mood swings, bad cramps and i can be snappy and rude. i dontknow how common these "symptoms" are but how would a Master deal with it knowing that how ever much the slave may try to control it, sometimes we just cant. Contrary to my sig line.........I really do not believe that hormones are an excuse for poor behaviour. For myself, I stay in tune with my body and try to be aware of why I am feeling the way I am. Knowing that whatever my emotional reaction to a specific comment or action is, it is only "of the moment". I keep my mouth shut and walk away. Give myself time to keep that awareness. Step out of myself and watch. I try to steer that energy towards something more positive. Usually something I can do by myself. Clean the barn, sort a closet, something that distances me from potential issues. I won't schedule employee reviews when I am feeling grumpy. Basically I take responsibility for myself, my words and my actions. I would expect the same thing from my girl. Not be offensive here but Im pretty sure there is a big difference in being a submissive with PMS and a Dominant with PMS. Depending on the relationship dynamic, a submissive may not have the freedom or the permission to do what would best help HER during her PMS cycle. I leaned MY cycle so I knew what to do. But my relationship was long distance, so I had the freedom to do what needed done during those days. I could just hide out at home until the angry day passed LOL I could sob all day on the sad PMS day. And we tried to never plan our time together during that time. My Master at the time was open to allowing me that time "off". Since we didnt live together, I learned how to manage my PMS days without problems in the rela... but thats because I had the freedom to do so. I doubt many slaves could do that. So in MY mind, it does fall back to some degree on the Dominant. Learning to understand her ebb and flow, and making sure she learns her own body helps greatly. If not, any Dominant is just fighting nature, and not supporting his submissive when she needs his guidance and understanding the most. As a Dominant, you would control your schedule and activities to manage your PMS. And you mention taking responsibility for yourself. But how much power, freedom, control would a slave have to dictate her PMS days so she can better manage HER symptoms??? Doesnt her Dominant have responsibility over her, over her actiities, over her life???

lusciouslips19 -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 2:28:46 PM)
PMS POSITIVE MENTAL STIMULATION When a gal can say the truth without apology! [:D]

Lumus -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 2:38:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 PMS POSITIVE MENTAL STIMULATION When a gal can say the truth without apology! [:D] Ahhhh. But why didn't you just say so in the first place? ^_^

curiousPAlady -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 2:41:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FlamingRedhead There is absolutely no reason for you or anyone else to suffer during your menstrual cycle. There are medications available that have been approved for the treatment of PMDD (premenstrual dysphoric disorder), such as Sarafem, Prozac, Zoloft, etc. There are also birth control methods which may help reduce the symptoms, i.e. oral contraceptives, Mirena IUD and Depo-Provera. They can reduce the duration of your period each month, restrict it to 4 times a year, or eliminate it altogether. For physical symptoms, you can take Midol, Premsyn PMS or Pamprin. In addition, there are herbal supplements such as St. John's Wort or black cohosh. I agree that it's a reason to be in a foul mood, but it's not an excuse for disrespect. I used holistic approaches to signficantly reduce and manage what at one time was horrific PMS. Its important though to do it under the supervision of a skilled holistic physician or practitioner. Not all women should be taking black cohosh or St. Johns Wort. Nor is Soy an answer to PMS or perimenopause for all women. Plant based estrogens can backfire if the woman has PCOS, some creams dont work enough, and there are other health conditions that factor into what you choose. For example, I got alot of success with Prometrium, which is a natural form of progesterone That got me through severe perimenopause and PMS. In the last two years, drinking Goji Juice daily has almost totally eliminated any symptoms of perimenopause and PMS. I think that most women dont get the health support and intervention that we all need to help us with PMS, peri-menopause, and menopause. For some, its mildly annoying or irritating. But for others, those stages can be extreme, crippling, and yes unmanageable. I would hope that a good responsible, caring Dominant would help his submissive through those stages somehow, if only to give her more attention and affection when she is most struggling. I dont see that as rewarding what may not be the best behavior, nor do I think anyone should tolerate abusive behavior. But giving her comfort, stability, patience, caring can only help her. And if you dont want to deal wtih a submisisve with PMS... either collar an older woman... or go collar a man. Though as some have said, men have ebbs and flow with their energies, their focus, their moods too. We just dont have a name for it... LOL

lusciouslips19 -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 2:41:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lumus quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 PMS POSITIVE MENTAL STIMULATION When a gal can say the truth without apology! [:D] Ahhhh. But why didn't you just say so in the first place? ^_^ Cause Daddy, You know way more than this wittle girl and you're alway wight, even when you are dead wrong. [sm=couple.gif]

LaTigresse -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 2:48:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curiousPAlady quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse Contrary to my sig line.........I really do not believe that hormones are an excuse for poor behaviour. For myself, I stay in tune with my body and try to be aware of why I am feeling the way I am. Knowing that whatever my emotional reaction to a specific comment or action is, it is only "of the moment". I keep my mouth shut and walk away. Give myself time to keep that awareness. Step out of myself and watch. I try to steer that energy towards something more positive. Basically I take responsibility for myself, my words and my actions. I would expect the same thing from my girl. So in MY mind, it does fall back to some degree on the Dominant. Learning to understand her ebb and flow, and making sure she learns her own body helps greatly. If not, any Dominant is just fighting nature, and not supporting his submissive when she needs his guidance and understanding the most. As a Dominant, you would control your schedule and activities to manage your PMS. And you mention taking responsibility for yourself. But how much power, freedom, control would a slave have to dictate her PMS days so she can better manage HER symptoms??? Doesnt her Dominant have responsibility over her, over her actiities, over her life??? I kept the parts of my statement that are key to what I am going to say. Regardless of dominant or submissive I am a huge advocate of personal responsibility. It is everyone's responsibility to be intune with their particular issues. It is also their responsibility as to how they project their personal issues out into their environment. A major part of personal responsibility is communication. Let's someone in my home is feeling ill and they do not tell me. I give them a task that is difficult for them to accomplish as I expect, because of their illness, and they disappoint me. Who's at fault? Me for giving them the task when they were not well, or them for not telling me they were not well? As far as being short tempered or any other emotional backlash some feel they can blame on hormones, and not take responsibility for........ I will not give a slave any more slack in that area than I give myself. Which is not much.

ownedgirlie -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 3:11:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curiousPAlady And if you dont want to deal wtih a submisisve with PMS... either collar an older woman... or go collar a man. Though as some have said, men have ebbs and flow with their energies, their focus, their moods too. We just dont have a name for it... LOL Or teach her to manage their PMS so the world doesn't have to stop because of it. I wonder if these women with such PMS mood swings (and I have had them myself) take time off work for them? Or do they manage them while at work? Or do they just bitch at everyone at work? I am not coddled just because I'm on my period. I am expected to understand my cycles such that I don't burden everyone around me with them. I don't live with my Master, but we schedule our visits around our schedules, period or not. At times it has been really uncomfortable for me, but I'd rather be uncomfortable and in his presence than not. To each their own, but that's my take.

Hissltora -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 3:18:25 PM)
Thank you, LaTigresse, for saying what i wanted to say and couldn't find the right way to express. Personal responsibility trumps whinebitchmoan in this house. For those who truly think that PMS is something that should be worked around, treated with kid gloves or asbestos suits, try finding a Dom who will be "supportive" of your delicate condition. Compatibility before commitment. slave tora, devoted to Sir N (and currently PMS'ing)

lusciouslips19 -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 3:21:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: curiousPAlady And if you dont want to deal wtih a submisisve with PMS... either collar an older woman... or go collar a man. Though as some have said, men have ebbs and flow with their energies, their focus, their moods too. We just dont have a name for it... LOL Or teach her to manage their PMS so the world doesn't have to stop because of it. I wonder if these women with such PMS mood swings (and I have had them myself) take time off work for them? Or do they manage them while at work? Or do they just bitch at everyone at work? I am not coddled just because I'm on my period. I am expected to understand my cycles such that I don't burden everyone around me with them. I don't live with my Master, but we schedule our visits around our schedules, period or not. At times it has been really uncomfortable for me, but I'd rather be uncomfortable and in his presence than not. To each their own, but that's my take. I get sensitive more often than bitchy.

ownedgirlie -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 3:27:39 PM)
That happens to me, too, lushy. And I become physically ill, sometimes requiring time off work.

lusciouslips19 -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 3:37:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie That happens to me, too, lushy. And I become physically ill, sometimes requiring time off work. PMS and whiskey amplifies this. (Lushy...whos been living up to her new pet name on the weekend)

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 4:11:34 PM)
It really depends on how bad it gets for them. First I'd make sure they did everything they could to minimize the symptoms. Drugs, therapy, sleep, water, eating right- a lot of people can make some improvements for themselves but don't prepare correctly. Once we've minimized things as much as possible, I'd expect them to behave as normally as possible and ask permission for any special allowances. I really doubt I'd ever be with someone who hasn't been menstruating for at least a few years so unless their body decides to change how it goes through that (which does happen), there's no reason they shouldn't anticipate the problems and be aware enough to ask permission for a break. Allowances are made, but strictly. This is a sensitive issue with me as I tend to see women use menstration as an excuse for their ill behavior and thoughts very often. So I will be very keen on not edging towards that line. http://www.collarchat.com/m_1270569/mpage_2/key_period/tm.htm#1271644 period lover http://www.collarchat.com/m_875683/mpage_1/key_menstrual/tm.htm#875935 squick or squish (curious) http://www.collarchat.com/m_718165/mpage_1/key_menstrual/tm.htm#718373 sex during heavy flow period http://www.collarchat.com/m_684595/mpage_1/key_period/tm.htm#684607 Your slave and her menstruation http://www.collarchat.com/m_606563/mpage_1/key_period/tm.htm#606939 Dealing with PMS as a sub http://www.collarchat.com/m_502696/mpage_1/key_pms/tm.htm#502835 Menstrual Cycle... http://www.collarchat.com/m_124443/mpage_1/key_period/tm.htm#124443 PMS and the submissive http://www.collarchat.com/m_146172/mpage_1/key_period/tm.htm#146172 menstruation and sex http://www.collarchat.com/m_222485/mpage_1/key_period/tm.htm#222485 should a sub be allowed http://www.collarchat.com/m_420217/mpage_1/key_period/tm.htm#420217 period play? http://www.collarchat.com/m_28039/mpage_1/key_pms/tm.htm#28039 serious question about pms http://www.collarchat.com/m_366774/mpage_1/key_pms/tm.htm#366774 PMS from hell? http://www.collarchat.com/m_166316/mpage_1/key_pms/tm.htm#166329 That time The Rose Colored Week How do you like your dom/master treating you on your period?

ownedgirlie -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 4:14:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 PMS and whiskey amplifies this. LOL silly.

hopelessfool -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 4:35:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hissltora For one thing, He is not the reason i am not feeling well, so why punish Him? Two, He is not accepting of misbehavior of any kind during my time. i wouldn't lash out at others while suffering a migraine, and PMS is no more acceptable. Actually Sex before ones cycle can cause the cramping and various other pains to be more intense, and painful... So in some cases yes he would be the reason I currently cant move...Instead of being able to deal with it the way I usually would. I.e. grit my teeth and be able to go about my day with some sense of normality. Anywho, I know Im very emotional on my period, I do my best to remove myself from situations that would cause me to get in trouble. If my Owner is pushing something that I know would push my control, when not in a hormonal state, I politely would ask Him if we could bring this up later because my ability to control my temper is getting to a point where I will snap. If he continues, knowing Im at a breaking point Im sorry the man deserves Every rude word hes going to get, for pushing something he knew before hand I couldnt handle at this time. As for how to deal with it, both parties depending on the sub/slave are involved. It might take the D type time to realize, that if pushed to hard to do certian things, It will end with me puking, and to allow me time to recover from the over exerstion and either cut slack, or have me continue at a slower pace with forced breaks. It takes me making sure Im taking everything I can to make sure I'm not going to be in a situation that I cant handle or express myself in a way that my owner might understand better. If my owner cant accept that I do get a period, and that even if I dont bleed the process takes a lot out of me, hes not goign to remain my owner for very long. If Im expected to take in account His moods, feelings, energy levels, exaustion levels and everything that makes up him. He should do the same in return, if he wishes to keep me at his side for very long. But Thats just me...

MadameXTC -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 5:34:16 PM)
I am really moody when I have PMS too. Usually my Dominant and I butt heads when I have PMS, for the most part he just stays out of my way for a few days and punishes me if I get really bad. He is understanding, but at the same time I can't expect him to take that much. I agree with what another person has said. Usually an intense session if I am feeling up to it adjusts my harmones back out. Granted there are many times where he has to send me to bed because I am ill. My PMS symptoms are horrible. :( They range from bitting a persons head off to laying doubled over in bed unable to move.

MontrealPhoenix -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 5:39:32 PM)
to my way of thinking, he'll stay out of her way til the mood swings pass, lmao. [sm=couch.gif] phoenix

lusciouslips19 -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 5:59:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19 PMS and whiskey amplifies this. LOL silly. I'm a handful. Sir deserves a medal for his self control.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 6:09:30 PM)
I've never been an advocate of using menstruation as an excuse for anything, and I suffered terribly when I was young. Why will they not just let us avowed non-breeders have hysterectomies? [>:] Damn endometriosis! Anyway, for some reason my pill got switched to generic and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what was wrong----I was having Bipolar Day without being bipolar! Well DUH. That was an exceptionally lousy few days, my tongue hurt from biting it! Serious aggression, just plain OUT there impatience, all the things I wish I could be! Honestly, I would have had to quit my job and move, no one would be speaking to me now if I had acted on every savage impulse. I used to know a guy who was on nuclear submarines, and I told him that America's truest possible secret weapon was a fleet of subs entirely crewed by women. They would totally take over the world, no need for exit strategies. Srsly! Imagine a whole boat load of women cycling at the same time, armed with nukes! Okay, what were we talking about? I think I'm going to go have some chocolate now.

Interesdom -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 6:29:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lilmissdefiant i was wonder how Masters deal with their slaves while they are going through PMS? I am normally sympathetic and understanding of her difficulties but I will not tolerate rudeness or disrespect. I will usually accept, without comment, reduced service and some tardiness and even some short-termper, and I'm likely to cosset her more. Slaves, like their owners, are humans. Slaves, unlike their owners, are slaves.

azropedntied -> RE: PMS - how do deal with it (5/13/2008 6:46:14 PM)
My thoughts exactly hiding in stealth mode is a great plan for this one .listens for the all clear horn . quote: ORIGINAL: MontrealPhoenix to my way of thinking, he'll stay out of her way til the mood swings pass, lmao. [sm=couch.gif] phoenix

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