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thetammyjo -> RE: Handling the social stigma of being a Dominant Female (5/16/2008 4:14:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: Griswold quote: ORIGINAL: MsStarlett quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar Hillary in 2069. She brings her crap on herself. I don't tink that she is Domineering. Look at Bill. He does what he whats do do with whom he wants to do it with. She refuses to get out of an abusive relationship. In a crisis she would panic. I wasn't actually talking about her politics - I was talking about the way she is treated in the media. It's OK to make "Bitch" jokes about her, but it's NOT ok to make black jokes about Obama. We have 'progressed' into a more 'PC world' where some topics are off limits because it it degrading to a segment of the population. The topic for discussion here is "Social Stigma of being a Dominant Woman". I am pointing at a prime example of how a woman is treated if she strives for a position of power. She is far more criticized than a man doing the same thing. A point often lost on people with their own stigmas about how the world treats them. As a man, call a woman "sweetie" or "hon" you'll get your head handed to you and you get the "YOU SAID WHAT????!!!!" look that can cut diamonds....I've been accused of everything but being the second gunman on the grassy knoll for doing just that...but go to a bar or a restaurant as a man, and that's ALL you get called by the women waitresses, because they think it endears you to them. Go figure. Actually, Obama just recently apologized for calling a female reporter "Sweetie". I happened to think that wasting the air time on television was one of the stupidest things I had seen all day. Did he call a male reporter by a similar term? If not, it would be easy to see why it upset people. It's similar to calling women in public by their first/personal names but men by their last/surnames. One implies a greater level of intimacy or devaluing of one to almost a child's or inferior's level. That's something that annoys me greatly -- when someone will say Hillary and Obama but to be fair Senator Clinton brings a bit of that onto herself by initially introducing herself as Hillary and having poster with her first name. When's the last time you saw Senator Obama's first name on posters or used in chants?

LadyPact -> RE: Handling the social stigma of being a Dominant Female (5/16/2008 5:03:06 PM)
No. It actually was a female reporter, that was attempting to interrupt a sentence mid-stream. You did hit something, though, with asking if he did the same for both sexes. Being as someone who does this on an equal, gender scale, is exactly why I don't see it as an issue.* Of course, I'm neither male, nor running to be the Democratic nominee for election. What I did find funny was that, as this short clip was used as discussion material, the (different) female journalist who was giving her comments said something to the effect of Obama had talked to the reporter (no kidding here) not like a professional, but like a waitress. I guess respect for females stops at that college degree. * I'm not exactly how to work this in, but it was mentioned, in both the apology and the discussion that using terms like "Sweetie" is very common in the South. Not uncommon to be used by both males and females.

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