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lronitulstahp -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/20/2008 8:38:39 PM)

i said middle eastern oil......not all oil...
some of it comes from olives...(if i'm going to be accused of being ignorant...might as well make it good)




DomAviator -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/20/2008 8:54:32 PM)

Just so you know, the days of fields of derricks are long long long gone. Now the rigs are mobile they drill and they move off. They also have implemented horizontal drilling to increase spacing - so now there is maybe one well per 40 acres or so... In all seriousness, how much impact can one of these have on animals :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/focalplane/50734273/ 

or

http://www.edmonton-ots.com/Images/ChristmasTree.jpg

Plant some bushes around it and nobody will even know its there.... Like I said I wish they would drill on my front lawn... 1/8 royalty at the wellhead :)




Irishknight -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/20/2008 10:42:44 PM)

I spoke to a gentleman the other day who was drilling for oil 25 years ago.  They drilled the wells then immediately capped them.  When he asked why they told him it was so they could drill at the current (then) cost and then sell it at future (now) prices.  it makes you wonder how slowly the oil companies are going to be about breaking the news about these "new sources." 
And when you guys listed petroleum products, you left out a couple of American neccessities: Vaseline and Velveeta (yes it does use petroleum products as ingredients).  If you use either of those then bitch about drilling, you're a hypocrit. 

Lets see.  Anwar - DRILL THE SHIT!!!!  The gulf platforms - GET THE FRACK BACK OUT THERE!!!!!  E.P.A. - LET US BUILD SOME DAMNED REFINERIES!!!!!!!    I can't tow a horse trailer with a Metro or a Prius so gimme my fuel.  And, I don't care that its 3 and 4 bucks a gallon.  When I need to be somewhere, the reason for going is more important to me than the cost.




Politesub53 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 2:30:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

ONLY 1/3???  only 1/3????????? 
That is 1/3 of our oil we wouldn't have to import.  That's a lot.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

876,000 BARRELS A DAY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  THAT'S A LOT OF EFFING OIL!!!


It seems a lot but its only a third of the US daily consumption. The US uses 1/4 of the worlds oil output.



You really dont get it do you. You were the one who so elegantly stated " Thats a lot of effing oil "  As i said, its only a third of America daily use, and you are using A QUARTER of the total oil production in the world. Sooner or later this stuff will run out, what will you do then ?




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 4:09:42 AM)

Drill what we have now then worry about running out.
And I'm not an engineer, but I'm sure that there are alternate energy solutions out there that no one is telling us about, just to keep us stupid.
Let's look to Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

ONLY 1/3???  only 1/3????????? 
That is 1/3 of our oil we wouldn't have to import.  That's a lot.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

876,000 BARRELS A DAY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  THAT'S A LOT OF EFFING OIL!!!


It seems a lot but its only a third of the US daily consumption. The US uses 1/4 of the worlds oil output.



You really dont get it do you. You were the one who so elegantly stated " Thats a lot of effing oil "  As i said, its only a third of America daily use, and you are using A QUARTER of the total oil production in the world. Sooner or later this stuff will run out, what will you do then ?




Politesub53 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 6:34:15 AM)

Sooner or later they will drill for the oil in Canada, at present its not cost effective to do so, as it takes the energy from two barrels of oil, to produce one barrel. The way forward is alternative sources and in the UK they are building massive wind farms. This will help but not solve the problem.




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 7:15:42 AM)

If we could run cars off wind we'd never have to worry about oil.


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Sooner or later they will drill for the oil in Canada, at present its not cost effective to do so, as it takes the energy from two barrels of oil, to produce one barrel. The way forward is alternative sources and in the UK they are building massive wind farms. This will help but not solve the problem.




Irishknight -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 8:27:27 AM)

At present electric cars are good for short runs only.  So we need oil. 

Its funny but I remember reading an article where a group of geologists showed that we have more oil under american soil than exists in all of the middle east.  Like anything else though, people didn't want to hear it because they said it was cheaper to get it from the great sandbox.  makes you wonder if we're just trying to use up all of someone elsse's resources before we start using ours




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 9:45:55 AM)

You are right, we have more oil than the great desert.  But bleeding heart liberals enjoy the idea of "not in my backyard" and "let everyone ride bikes".
Take the posterboy for the bleeding hearts Al Gore, who took private planes to speeches where he told people to just ride bikes, and has a huge house in Memphis that used more energy than several houses combined.
They love to tell others what to do and point fingers.
The average commute in WV is about an hour by car.
Yes, I guess we should all get out our bikes... especially when it can get to 0 degrees in the winter and over 100 in the summer.  How fucking practical.
Thanks everyone for the tips.


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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

At present electric cars are good for short runs only.  So we need oil. 

Its funny but I remember reading an article where a group of geologists showed that we have more oil under american soil than exists in all of the middle east.  Like anything else though, people didn't want to hear it because they said it was cheaper to get it from the great sandbox.  makes you wonder if we're just trying to use up all of someone elsse's resources before we start using ours





Politesub53 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 11:30:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

If we could run cars off wind we'd never have to worry about oil



Yes, thats why i said wind farms will only be a help. See, its like this, the wind farms are used for power in homes and offices. Leaving the oil for other uses, clever aint it !




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 11:31:34 AM)

I wouldn't know... here in WV we use coal to produce electricity.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

If we could run cars off wind we'd never have to worry about oil



Yes, thats why i said wind farms will only be a help. See, its like this, the wind farms are used for power in homes and offices. Leaving the oil for other uses, clever aint it !




Alumbrado -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 5:27:32 PM)

Puhleeeze... that Belle Meade house of Gore's is in NashVegas, not Mempus.  Perhaps you were thinking of Steven Seagal?  Same facial expression, and such.... easy mistake.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Many white Dems in WV say race was a factor in their vote (5/21/2008 5:56:04 PM)

Isn't West Virginia the state where they take the phrase "sub sister" literally?




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