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Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this country - 5/17/2008 1:05:40 AM   
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Liking Obama, the more he speaks.  It's like Bush's garbledeegoo brainwashing gets shut down in it's track. And gets exposed for what it really is... B.S.  Kind of nauseous the way Bush always patronizes the American people as idiots that are easily be tricked and manipulated.  Just another one of his tricks in a long string of tricks that he uses against the helpless American public (who he probably thinks are a bunch of passive losers for allowing him and his croonies to strongarm his way, such an unremarkable person like himself, into office).  His folksy accent certainly was a ploy to try to fool America that he's "one of them"...certainly doesn't look that way by the policies that he supports and his inability to relate and being completely out of touch with the regular working class populous issues.  Also his little $600 or so "doggie treat" that the public is supposed to be passively waiting for, and jump up and bark at as he dangles and tosses the treat in front of the public is another way he patronizes the american public as a bunch of his foolish disciples (and he as some sort of King or Prince in his own form of Dictatorship within the larger American Democracy).  His getting horrible grades in History class, inability to relate to the america population or treat them not like children, and his getting the door open to higher branches in office just because Bush was his last name is just a few symptoms of him definitely getting everything in life easy and it shows. 
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 4:51:00 AM   
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 5:12:51 AM   
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 6:00:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		The clip you posted the link to was just Obama's response to perceived attacks by Bush.  I guess this sort of thing is necessary, but I get awfully tired of hearing this kind of stuff over and over and hearing so little about the issues. 

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 6:30:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		The President wasn't talking about Barack in that speech he gave in Israel, he was talking about Jimmy Carter. I wonder why Barack automatically assumed that the President was referring to him when the President said the word "appeaser" in relation to terrorists

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 7:05:45 AM   
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The President wasn't talking about Barack in that speech he gave in Israel, he was talking about Jimmy Carter. I wonder why Barack automatically assumed that the President was referring to him when the President said the word "appeaser" in relation to terrorists

How could a private citizen be an appeaser?

Either GWB is dumber than even his worst critics believe or he was attacking Obama in that speech.

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 7:49:13 AM   
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It made all the headlines...

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 8:32:18 AM   
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I guess you haven't heard about Jimmah's latest trip?

It made all the headlines...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs


Yeah sure,keep tell`n yourself that.

And McCain's parallel comments and those of his surrogates,they were all speaking about Carter also?lol

Give us a break.

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And you neo-cons should quite with the re-definition thing.

McCain/Bushco/lackies using the term "appeasement" over and over and over when seeking a dialog, is what Progressives want.Appeasement,... is not seeking to talk.Make a note of it.

Appeasing hitler, was giving him land, counties and nations.Not seeking a communication w/ him.

And using the fucking nazi reference.That is just fucked up,.....and in Israel no less.lol

That is just low class pandering and it cheapens and exploits the tragedies of WWII and the what the nazis did.

If you`re going to reference Hitler,WWII or the nazi holocaust,it better be another genocide or similar outrage(like what the Serbians did) or humane calamity.

Don`t pull that reference out and play it on every issues like a poker hand.It truly cheapens and diminishes the profoundly horrible events that happened back then.

It also makes the nazi reference user look like a clown,especially in reference to the Iraq war or the middle east.

You guys are going to need a smarter argument,this coming election.

The nazi references,scare tactics and war mongering have lost their sparkle.

You best stick to the "Obama`s a radical Muslim/America hater/crazy black man" thing.

The heady,intellectual and involved processes and functions of government and foreign policy are not the neo-con`s best skill-set..

Stick to character assassination.

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 8:42:35 AM   
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 8:51:20 AM   
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 8:51:25 AM   
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Stick to character assassination.


Character assassination?

Clue: that's what you're trying right here!

I've never called Obama a crazed black terrorist or anything like that, that's just another typical wild accusation on your part, and not even remotely connected with reality.






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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 9:27:23 AM   
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Stick to character assassination.


Character assassination?

Clue: that's what you're trying right here!

I've never called Obama a crazed black terrorist or anything like that, that's just another typical wild accusation on your part, and not even remotely connected with reality.







True,you haven`t personally said those things.But you proudly stand with those who do,your neo-con  buddys in the GOP.

I was speaking about neo-conservatives in general,a group to which you proudly belong,as you`ve stated in the past.

What,because you haven`t said those things, here on this board,that means that neo-cons don`t say them?

Oh right,you`re just going to repeat one little part of the silly neo-con talking points.Like Bushco/McCain haven`t said all the other silly things also.Are Americans that dumb?

Are you trying to play cutesy again?

You sound like the guy in the vid.Talking a lot of shit but no arguement.

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 9:38:59 AM   
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I won't comment on it any further!






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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 10:00:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		  Just defend the scurrilous comments by Bush and stop the hi-jack.

It`s not about you. 

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 10:47:13 AM   
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 10:48:16 AM   
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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 11:24:27 AM   
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Just defend the scurrilous comments by Bush and stop the hi-jack.

It`s not about you. 



          And you get to assign the thoughts and opinions of other posters because..... ???

         I happen to think "appeasement" is a very good word for what some on the left seek in the ME.  I happen to think that requiring Hamas/whoever to acknowledge Israel's right to exist is a fair demand BEFORE we sit down.  Peace was on the table not so long ago, and the Palestinians walked away.

        I have zero intention of watching a Bush speech on my day off.

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 11:29:16 AM   
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Just defend the scurrilous comments by Bush and stop the hi-jack.

It`s not about you. 



         And you get to assign the thoughts and opinions of other posters because..... ???

        I happen to think "appeasement" is a very good word for what some on the left seek in the ME.  I happen to think that requiring Hamas/whoever to acknowledge Israel's right to exist is a fair demand BEFORE we sit down.  Peace was on the table not so long ago, and the Palestinians walked away.

       I have zero intention of watching a Bush speech on my day off.


Heretic, and I don't think that it's the "job" of the U.S. to be doing those kinds of things.

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 12:56:41 PM   
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The President wasn't talking about Barack in that speech he gave in Israel, he was talking about Jimmy Carter. I wonder why Barack automatically assumed that the President was referring to him when the President said the word "appeaser" in relation to terrorists


... timing

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RE: Obama is so on target with what's wrong with this c... - 5/17/2008 1:25:07 PM   
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I guess you haven't heard about Jimmah's latest trip?

It made all the headlines...

You failed to answer the question.

Once again, how could a private citixen be an appeaser? Do you not want to answer since it makes clear you're a liar or are you as ignorant as Kevin James and don't know what the term means in this context?

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