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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 12:19:58 AM

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Eh, I guess as I understood it, using "submissive" as a noun is simply an abbreviated way of saying "submissive person" =)

I think we have a winner.....

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 12:23:16 AM

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There's a spellcheck in the cmail? Where on earth have I been?

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 12:33:22 AM

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The fact that this happened within the confines of a bd/sm site is irrefutable validation--because its immanent--of my gut feeling that none of us can be submissives.

We can be slaves.
We can be subordinates.
We can be property.
We can be alot of other things, including floor sitters.

But, we can't be submissives.

All of us who try to be submissives are wannabes!
All of us who claim to be submissives are fakes!

"It is possible to use an adjective as a noun by simply using the adjective as the subject and omitting the noun it modifies. Usually, adjectives used as nouns refer to a specific quality shared by a group (the pleasant) or a specific human characteristic shared by a group of people (the wise).
Example:
We moderns are to the ancients what the poor are to the rich." --University Of Illinois, Writers Workshop, Center For Writing Studies.

So We moderns, or the ancients being, well, ancients, or those poor and rich, being themselves, are somehow different then those who choose to be submissives?

Funny how a language evolves because people choose to use a word in a given way.

Get over it!

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 2:37:18 AM

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Hey, i used to live in Eureka! Yay me, but then i read the post and oh hell, it isn't about a place, it's about us not being submissives. i am confussed.

hey BBWnNC72, i also lived in Eureka (Cutten actually) also lived in so hum...Redway, Garberville and a lil tiny place called Harris.
goes off singing...it's a small word afer all

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 2:39:43 AM

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I wanna be a Domissive.

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 4:21:38 AM

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You would think the same would apply to the term dominants but my spell checker doesn't catch it. Conversely, scene is a noun and is not a verb. People cannot scene even thought the term is used widely in the bdsm vernacular.

Well, when you take a noun and turn it into a verb, its called "verbing." Verbing's fine. I love verbing. Apparantly, I don't have the same fondness for nouning. :)

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 4:25:05 AM

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I think we have a winner.....

Heh. Why does everything have to be a competition?

In my world, there's no winners and losers and everybody gets to play.

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 4:27:05 AM

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There's a spellcheck in the cmail? Where on earth have I been?

Yes, there is! It just started highlighting my misspellings one day. Don't quite know when.

I wish there was a spellchecker on the forums.

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 4:47:08 AM

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"It is possible to use an adjective as a noun by simply using the adjective as the subject and omitting the noun it modifies. Usually, adjectives used as nouns refer to a specific quality shared by a group (the pleasant) or a specific human characteristic shared by a group of people (the wise).

Interesting. But, this has also been criticized by many because it tends to reduce people to what they have in common with a group thus obscuring their individuality, something that can have negative consequences. Advocates of "people first language" have campaigned against usage such as "the disabled," or "the crippled" or "the blind," preferring "people with disabilities" or "people who are crippled" (though crippled isn't really a word we use much anymore) and "people who are blind."
So, I think there's a good argument for thinking carefully about the way we use adjectives as if they were nouns.

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Get over it!

Believe me, there's not much to get over. I am not suggesting there's a deep problem with using "submissive" or "dominant" as a noun. I did place this thread in the random stupidity forum, rather than the general discussion forum. :)

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 5:15:54 AM

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I wanna be a Domissive.

Then you must control a mail box full of missives.

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 7:21:38 AM

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What do we call it when we take a reason for punitive action and create a verb from it? Is that still verbing? I understand "partying" = to party, but does the same follow for "fucking?"

FUCK = For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge... a reason to be put in the stocks in the public square in years of old, but have we actually "verbed" it correctly? (hey, is verbed a form of verbing?)

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 8:15:25 AM

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Hey, i used to live in Eureka! Yay me, but then i read the post and oh hell, it isn't about a place, it's about us not being submissives. i am confussed.

hey BBWnNC72, i also lived in Eureka (Cutten actually) also lived in so hum...Redway, Garberville and a lil tiny place called Harris.
goes off singing...it's a small word afer all

YAY, another Humboltd Hunny, but without all the hair, lol.
i never heard of Harris. i lived there from 1992-2006.

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 8:18:47 AM

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FUCK = For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge... a reason to be put in the stocks in the public square in years of old, but have we actually "verbed" it correctly?

I'm not sure. But, I don't think so. When someone says "I'm fucked" meaning they're in some kind of trouble they can't get out of, then yeah, it might be correct. :)

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(hey, is verbed a form of verbing?)

Yes! Its wonderful, isn't?

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 8:20:47 AM

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Yanno, GG... I'm happy with it.

*giggles*

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 11:08:20 AM

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FUCK=Fornication Under the Consent of the King

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 11:26:27 AM

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Hey, i used to live in Eureka! Yay me, but then i read the post and oh hell, it isn't about a place, it's about us not being submissives. i am confussed.

hey BBWnNC72, i also lived in Eureka (Cutten actually) also lived in so hum...Redway, Garberville and a lil tiny place called Harris.
goes off singing...it's a small word afer all

YAY, another Humboltd Hunny, but without all the hair, lol.
i never heard of Harris. i lived there from 1992-2006.

lol@Humboldt Hunny....i did have all the hair when i lived there. now just the mass of tresses on my head. i moved there in 76...left in 97.well . the only thing that gives Harris it's name is there was once a post office back when pony express was the method of mail delivery. it is 27 miles east of Garberville. when i moved there it was 27 miles of dirt road now most of it is paved. i miss the redwoods too.
(sorry for the hijack...back to a verbing and nouning)
signed, a submissive girl

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RE: Eureka! - 5/19/2008 5:17:15 PM

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FUCK = For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge... a reason to be put in the stocks in the public square in years of old, but have we actually "verbed" it correctly?

1. Does the word 'fuck' come from the phrase 'for unlawful carnal knowledge'? During the time of the pilgrims, when the stocks were a common form of punishment, the crime would be written above the stocks. Instead o writing Adultery, they used the acronym For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge or F.U.C.K.

2. Does ‘fuck’ mean ‘Fornication Under Consent [of the] King’. The king had rights to all in his domain including the new brides… if you wanted to copulate with your new bride, you needed permission from the king.

3. Does ‘fuck’ mean acronym of a law term used in the 1500s that referred to rape as ‘Forced Unnatural Carnal Knowledge’.

However, composed some time before the 1500s, the earliest credited origins in written language go to Flen flyys. The relevant line reads:
Non sunt in celi
quia fvccant (fuccant) vvivys of heli
"They [the monks] are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of Ely."

Also:
German - ficken (to copulate)
Dutch - fokken (to breed)
dialectical Norwegian - fukka (to copulate)
dialectical Swedish - fucka (to strike, copulate) and fuck (penis)

This poem was composed in 1503, early recorded uses of fuck are also from Scots. From The Poems of William Dunbar, James Kinsley, ed., Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1979, 40-42.
His bony berd wes kemd and croppit
Bot all with kaill it was bedroppit
And he was townsyche, peirt and gukkit. He clappit fast, he kist, he chukkit
As with the glaikkis he were ourgane--
Yit be his feiris he wald haif fukkit:
Ye brek my hairt, my bony ane.

sources
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fuck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
http://tafkac.org/language/etymology/fuck/fuck_etymology_of.html

Notes: http://www.iath.virginia.edu/lists_archive/Humanist/v05/0569.html
covers knocked up (fuck means 'to knock') and pug/pugil Germanic p = f.

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