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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 5:26:13 AM   
GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

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ORIGINAL: MasterMurat

... So I was surprised when she gave it to me as a present upon her release. I did learn a lot from it and I'm grateful to her.




i think this is awesome and your subsequent explainations of this. What a gift! It is a good thing you have found pearls in her diary inwhich to improve upon for your next girl. So often, we never get those when relationships end. Perhaps i am over analyzing this morning but i am really impressed with this~


well said, Dawn! (gorgeous pic, BTW :) )

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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 6:34:34 AM   
pettingdragons


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Status: offline 		Master requires girl to write in her journal, though girl kept a diary before Master..so comtuinuing to do so was no difficult task. Every sunday am with His coffee Master will read the journal. If He has any questions He will ask or if He has some comment to make he may write in the margins. There are no secrets between Us, though sometimes if a rant is needed or spekaing of family or if He is not here to talk to girl will write in her journal. Its also a fun play tool....command "write in your journal" action...Master coming up from behind....you can guess the rest and its VERY hard to write anything other then what is being done to you after the first 20 mintues...LOL 
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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 7:00:41 AM   
GoddessTeaze


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ORIGINAL: MasterMurat

Hello A/all.

The question is for all submissives out there (male and female). The question is about old-fashioned hand-written diaries and not about blogs and other online stuff.

I had a sub in the past and she was keeping a diary before our relationship began. I was encouraging her to keep it later on, as diaries are a good way of expressing one's feelings and help a person to get thoughts sorted out. I always believed that I should not read it. So I was surprised when she gave it to me as a present upon her release. I did learn a lot from it and I'm grateful to her.

How many of you keep diaries? Did your Dom/Domme encourage/require you to keep it? Does He/She read it?

I've always wrote diary's, throughout My whole life. (da hell they r for someone else to read though !)
I let My subs write a blog, especially
after they served Me.
It hasn't gotto do with not being able to communicate, because there is nothing with that skill between Me and My sub, but I always love to hear how he experianced it, and to read about his deep feelings,
and what touched him the most.

I love it all over again.

Although men arent always writers,
It's a good way to get eachother better,
then Oone already does.

I love to write now and then,
as I did after Oour Week together.
It's a great way to remember!

I wish you enough

GoddezzT`


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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 7:07:26 AM   
Willowmoon


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Status: offline 		I keep two. One is my professional journal where I have to write up clinic reports as well as any issues that arise for me while doing student clinic (Assessment piece though it is quite useful to see how far I have come and what i have learnt since my first clinic)

The second in the journal I keep for Master which has a record of all training/play sessions, events we have been too, my fantasys, desires and dreams. He reads it at least twice a week and its a useful tool for a starting point in conversations as I am not good at communicating my needs and feeling and are more likely to withdraw from Master then tell him when something is wrong. With the help of my journal we are figuring out why this happens and are fixing it.

Willow

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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 2:10:21 PM   
lizcgirl


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Status: offline 		I've kept a diary for as long as I can remember, it helps me to sort through my feelings and thoughts and keep track of small things that happen in my life. I recently got a new one and Daddy saw it sitting out in the living room. He respectfully handed it to me and told me to put it up because as I gave myself to Him and all of my belongings, He now has the right to read it whenever He chooses. I am very honest, I wouldn't write down something I wouldn't admit to His face, so I told Him He was welcomed to read it any time He wanted. Of course He doesn't need my permission, but the gesture was meant more to show Him I had nothing to hide. I wouldn't allow any one else to read it, but for Him I wouldn't hesitate.
 
OP- I personally did the same thing the girl you released did to you. In HS I had a serious boyfriend and when we split, I gave him my diary. I told him it was so he knew that even though we ended, I never lied and I meant what I said when I told him how much I cared for him. It wasn't because we didn't communicate, it was more a detailed record of our relationship so that he could look back on it and remember it the way I did. We remained friends until just over a year ago when he got married and before he did, he gave it back to me. He told me it helped him over the years to know that some one loved him and to remember good things that happened in his life. He gave it back to me out of respect for his wife, which I totally understood-- I was actually shocked he had kept it for almost ten years. It's reassuring to see a person's most private thoughts and see that they do match what you were told, I think the gesture is sweet. (BTW- I burnt it after he gave it back. That part of my life is over and it served it's purpose so there was no reason to keep it around any more. It was a little sad actually.)

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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 2:34:02 PM   
MistressDollys


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Status: offline 		my Mistress requires me to provide daily journal updates online so She can read it and stay in touch with Her slave from afar. It provides Her rare insight into my inner thoughts that might not be noticed without it so corrective action can be taken much quicker and things don't get out of hand on my part. It helps Mistress to control me more and keep those controls in place. It's also is great for discipline and keeping my mind where it should be at all times. i know no matter what my day was like at work i will always finish the day with a journal update and then go to bed with only Mistress on my mind. What a motivator that is by itself.



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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 5:57:35 PM   
mule01


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ORIGINAL: MasterMurat

Hello A/all.

The question is for all submissives out there (male and female). The question is about old-fashioned hand-written diaries and not about blogs and other online stuff.

I had a sub in the past and she was keeping a diary before our relationship began. I was encouraging her to keep it later on, as diaries are a good way of expressing one's feelings and help a person to get thoughts sorted out. I always believed that I should not read it. So I was surprised when she gave it to me as a present upon her release. I did learn a lot from it and I'm grateful to her.

How many of you keep diaries? Did your Dom/Domme encourage/require you to keep it? Does He/She read it?



My Mistress always requires me to keep a journal, and She certainly does read it. Granted, the journal I keep is online, but it is a documentation of my thoughts and actions and measure of expected regimens, nonetheless.

There is nowhere a slave should be able to hide, even if it is a hand-written diary. There are certain thoughts and feelings which can be expressed in written form which don't come across immediately well in spur-of-the-moment verbal expression. Left alone with your thoughts, you can find that perfect word or train of ideas to express yourself more accurately. It behooves your Owner to read these entries, too, as a simple matter of communication. My Mistress uses my journal as a way of monitoring my progress and overall state of mind. She, in turn, uses it to communicate with me as well.


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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 7:16:01 PM   
mienliebte


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Status: offline 		I have always kept a journal. I must be the oddball here though, I don't share the contents with anyone. Ever. I wonder if it would have made a difference if I had. I must say though, my entries would be different if I had. I don't think it would be nearly as good for me as it is now.

Any thoughts?

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RE: Diary - 5/21/2008 7:35:45 PM   
RichardandV


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterMurat

Hello A/all.

The question is for all submissives out there (male and female). The question is about old-fashioned hand-written diaries and not about blogs and other online stuff.

I had a sub in the past and she was keeping a diary before our relationship began. I was encouraging her to keep it later on, as diaries are a good way of expressing one's feelings and help a person to get thoughts sorted out. I always believed that I should not read it. So I was surprised when she gave it to me as a present upon her release. I did learn a lot from it and I'm grateful to her.

How many of you keep diaries? Did your Dom/Domme encourage/require you to keep it? Does He/She read it?


I don't require a written diary, but do require a journal.  Not to be written in each day but a place where they can jot down their thoughts.  I supose its the modern times.  Writting assignments is usually used for correction.  Although as all food for thought, the diary idea sounds great, something that can be touched, felt, defently more personal. 

Thanks for your question,
Lady V


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RE: Diary - 5/22/2008 8:45:06 AM   
pettingdragons


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ORIGINAL: mule01
There is nowhere a slave should be able to hide, even if it is a hand-written diary. There are certain thoughts and feelings which can be expressed in written form which don't come across immediately well in spur-of-the-moment verbal expression. Left alone with your thoughts, you can find that perfect word or train of ideas to express yourself more accurately. It behooves your Owner to read these entries, too, as a simple matter of communication.


that is so true! a slave should have no where to hide. they should not want to hide there thoughts from their Masters. though verbal communication isnt easy for some people, writting is....i can sit and write pages and pages about mundane things about the cat looking out the window, the excitement of seeing my sister for the holidays or grass growing (water ratio vs good soil).... or about something that i forgot to mention to Master about a scene at a party last weekend. or some creepy Dominant who gave me the willies ....it helps keep communication open and gives Him an idea about where my head it at...since He is logical and i am emotional....i am sure that sometimes he reads my thughts and just scrtches his head in dismay!  LOL

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RE: Diary - 5/22/2008 9:11:54 AM   
DiurnalVampire


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Status: offline 		Fox keeps an online journal. Handwritten diaries do not interest me, but then agian reading the boys writing would be nearly impossible. Fox is a lefty and has the stereotypical difficult script, and Angel has a righty's chickenscratch.
Originally, I had considered asking them to keep journals of their feelings and all, but they are open with me about them, so I dont needthem to sit and write them down. Fox choronicals his training on his journal, as well as the other things going on in his life. Angel is to private to keep written accounts of everything since he doesnt want them being found for any reason.
Neither of them have any reason to hide. I have their email passwords, their various online accounts and all. I do not look, but I am free to if I choose.


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RE: Diary - 5/22/2008 12:04:29 PM   
lytehaze


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Status: offline 		I have three journals because I love to write and it is a good forum for expression. One of my vanilla thoughts and feelings that I've written in for a while.
One that my Dom requested I write: about our relationship. How I think and feel about newly being 24/7 D/s and our interactions as a D/s couple. That journal He does not read. He promised me privacy in that, so I can freely express my feelings. And a third journal that is solely my journey as a submissive. Understanding myself, concepts I'm studying, where I'm going, what I've learned, etc He is free to read that one to guage where I am mentally in my submission.

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Obligatory disclaimer: Of course the above views are my own, as I can only speak for myself. Should others identify or disagree with my thoughts, that is their right. I in no way meant to offend, by malice or negligence any person or group.

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RE: Diary - 5/23/2008 3:10:51 AM   
MasterMurat


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Status: offline 		So basically are two types of diaries (journals).

1. Communication purposes. Sub/slave writes it knowing that the Dom will read it.
2. Private. Dom does not read it, and sub/slave is allowed to have some privacy.

After reading all the posts I think that it would be better for my future-sub to keep both. So W/we would not get that communication problem, but at the same time she would be able to get her feelings and emotions sorted out without worrying that reading the whole process may upset me. And maybe after that she would want to write some of the entries into the one I'm reading. Similar to draft - fair copy.

Thank you All/all for your answers once again.



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RE: Diary - 5/23/2008 2:21:39 PM   
opensoul


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Status: offline 		OP- My Master requires me to write daily for many reasons, to let my feelings of our time together come to the surface. Sometimes i need to go over them to see what I was feeling at the time and process everything that is happening. 

We live 6 hours away so this does help to see were my mind is at times and help him when he reads it to get me over any blocks I may have.
We talk openly but sometimes when you can not talk in person, it helps me alot.

I have found a pattern of growth, since we started and openness of my feelings that were so locked away for many years!!!

For me this writting down has me facing walls of feeling, learning from them and putting the past behind me,

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RE: Diary - 5/23/2008 3:21:35 PM   
sweetsubie


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Status: offline 		Every one seems to be confused as to why she gave you the diary after release, I personally think of that as a sweet gesture and a possible means of closure for both of you?
I think slave/sub diaries are a great idea not exactly as a comunication tool as such but for lots of reasons.... routine, comunication too and sometimes for me any way after sessions, discussions, punishments or whatever I'm bubbled up on excitement or might be upset its a great release of all that for those of us who might not have some one to share it with. I think that it would be good for ones emotional well being also... maybe

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RE: Diary - 5/23/2008 7:22:32 PM   
epiphany


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Status: offline 		  I am in love with the written word and have been all of my life. I have kept journals since I was about nine.

My owner has encouraged me to continue that practice as it is a fabulous way to sort through my feelings. I am not required to. It is for me alone, and has helped me gather the words for when I do want to talk with him about something.

He can read it if he wants, he prefers not to. He strongly believes that everyone should have something of their own, and a private place to retreat to and think. Besides, he knows that I will come to him with anything that matters.

epiphany

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RE: Diary - 5/23/2008 9:25:42 PM   
MasterMurat


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Status: offline 		That is the reason I never read her diary before she gave it to me. I also believe that every person including a sub/slave should have "a private place to retreat to and think". Some people think that "There is nowhere a slave should be able to hide". We/we All/all are different and that's great.

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RE: Diary - 5/24/2008 1:32:35 PM   
Wheldrake


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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Handwritten diaries do not interest me, but then agian reading the boys writing would be nearly impossible. Fox is a lefty and has the stereotypical difficult script, and Angel has a righty's chickenscratch.



I wonder if there's some sort of epidemic of bad handwriting among submissive men. Mine is a horrendous scrawl. Nevertheless, I do keep a handwritten diary, although it's more a straightforward record of what I've done each day than an exploration of my feelings. Most of what I write is entirely dull and mundane, but I sometimes mention BDSM activities.

I don't show that diary to my Mistress, although I'd have no problem doing so if she asked to see it during one of our visits back and forth (we have a long-distance, and indeed international, relationship). I'm required to send her daily e-mails, just checking in and reporting what I've been up to, but they're generally brief. Detailed discussion of feelings, ideas and fantasies happens in person, or on the phone, or when chatting online.

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RE: Diary - 5/27/2008 2:17:10 AM   
Eibon


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Status: offline 		Hmm... I recently released Mine and encouraged her to keep the journal (she was required to write in it every day and I would read it once a week) to give to her next Dominant.

I thought this was good form... ?



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RE: Diary - 5/27/2008 2:04:15 PM   
clearlightblack


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Status: offline 		This girl has had relationships where her journal was her own, but most recently her journal.....

1) served as a way for her Master to know what she did that day when they were apart
2) served to tell her Master what was going on in her head (this girl tends to get really excited around her Master and rambles.....also this girl, when she writes, seems to write like she was talking so it is an inner monolouge on paper
3) served to help this girl figure out what was most interesting to her about BDSM

It is what he required of her and she enjoyed it....he rarely commented on what she would write but it helped to bare her soul and feel like He actually cared

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