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MladyHathor -> Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 3:35:54 PM)

may mean never finding what You desire.
 
                                 Thoughts?



faerytattoodgirl -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 3:38:45 PM)

i desire to be myself...and knowing who i am i have acheived this.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 4:02:33 PM)

Thanks for rubbing it in!  <G>

But I am not alone in that boat, right?  And I am not alone at all~~ I have a close family and friends that love me, even if I never have anything like romantic love again.  There are worse fates.



Shawn1066 -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 5:39:37 PM)

I'd rather embrace who I am and be alone than settle for less than I desire.

Luckily, I have both.

DV's Fox



PsyVamp -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 5:46:54 PM)

*sighs*

I know right where "what I desire" is.... I just need the nerve to walk away from here.

Unfortunately, "here" is not something I can walk away from at this moment in time.

*sighs*

Lady Jag



DragonLadysFire -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 5:55:04 PM)

I am myself and that is what I desire, everything else nice is just icing on the cake.



Misstoyou -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 6:05:42 PM)

I find what I desire, but my desires change.



petdave -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 6:29:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Thanks for rubbing it in!  <G>

But I am not alone in that boat, right?


Definitely not...  you ready to take a turn on the oars? [8D]



MasterFireMaam -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 6:49:55 PM)

Yes, but you'll always find what you create...and you've got a lot of control over that.

Master Fire



pixelslave -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 7:00:28 PM)

IMO, knowing who and what you are, gives you the knowledge necessary to make the proper choices to become the person you want to be!  I strongly suspect that once you begin that journey, you'll find what it is that you desire; or perhaps learn that what you thought you desired, is no longer of importance. [&:]
 
 - pixel



petdave -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 7:45:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Yes, but you'll always find what you create...and you've got a lot of control over that.


Yes, but the things i create either don't get finished, or never work properly [&:]



pixelslave -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 8:40:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: petdave

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Yes, but you'll always find what you create...and you've got a lot of control over that.


Yes, but the things i create either don't get finished, or never work properly [&:]



Perhaps you need to spend more time up front during the design & prototype stage? [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m25.gif[/image]
 
 - pixel
 
 



DiurnalVampire -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 9:07:18 PM)

I believed for a long while that knowing who I was meant I would never find what I wanted. I had finally come to grips with that possibility when I met Angel.  Then, I finally settled on the fact that I would never have the sexual and romantic fulfillment I wanted in a D/s relationship... and I met Fox.
So, knowing who you are might not find you what you want, but keeping your options open usually does. The less you look the more you find.

DV



chezzy71 -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/20/2008 9:37:50 PM)

Don't even get me started!!



LadyPact -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/21/2008 2:38:47 AM)

I think I'm seeing this differently than some.

See, knowing what I am took Me a while.  It took Me time to get comfortable in My own skin.  But more than anything else, that *was* what I desired.  Now, I have that.



rubberpet -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/21/2008 2:54:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shawn1066

I'd rather embrace who I am and be alone than settle for less than I desire.

Luckily, I have both.

DV's Fox


Amen, my subby brother!  Amen!!!

I share your fate...uh, fortune on that!  LOL  Just like you, I not only have the freedom to be who I really am, but a wonderful domme to share that with.  She not only embraces my submission to Her, She encourages and cultivates it.  I may have a very dominant personality in my everyday life away from Her, but She is the ONLY one that I cannot stare down.  I can't look into Her eyes for more than three seconds without turning away or looking down.  It's like She has a mysterious power or something...it's called dominance and my submissive nature is happy to get lost in it!

Knowing who I am helped me find what I truly desire...a dominant, gothic, rubber-loving goddess and my complete submission to Her!  [sm=yahoo.gif]



ocilla -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/21/2008 4:58:29 AM)

Wow that whole knowing who you are piece is a constant discovery I find.  Like Master Fire Maam indicates it seems to be a cyclical process of creating, being, discovering and then pushing further with the new knowledge gained from new experiences.  But I tend to be quite fluid and rarely close the door or think that a door has to stay closed.  I think I am rather different than most that way. 

Micheal Apted has done this amazing documentary "Up" series that I first saw when I was about 21 and it made a big impact on me concerning the notion of staying open when finding one's path.  He began by finding 7 year olds throughout London of various socio-economic statuses and based on the premis of "show me the 7 year old child and I will show you the man" he began interviewing them every 7 years to determine how close to that 7 year old had they remained throughout their lives.  The first series was 21up, then 28up, then 35up and so on up to 49up I believe is the most recent one.  It is powerful stuff the limitations we put upon ourselves that prevents us from pushing beyond what is prescribed early on. 



sunshinemiss -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/21/2008 5:10:38 AM)

Hello everybody,
I'm going to weigh in here.... It's all very well and good to say these noble things, but we are also social creatures.  We NEED each other, we NEED to have relationships, and when they are not around, it does affect our hearts, our minds, our self esteem, our coping.  It is a rare person indeed who can be ALONE for years on end, taking the high road. So while some relationships are not perfect, they don't fit us completely, they are still learning experiences and sometimes good enough is good enough.

No, I'm not saying settle for ... I'm saying be who you are, but know that we can't always have EVERYTHING we want.  I would like to be one of those really calm, Dalai Lama type people who has lots of love and peace all the time when the truth is that my personality is much more rambunctious than that.  So as MFM says, we create what we have.  It is my responsibiility to do that for myself.  I really want a job right now, but the truth is I don't want to do the leg work.  I AM doing it but I don't want to.  I am creating the job.  I am creating the relationship with co-workers as I look for the job.

Love and compassion, disappointment, integrity, pain,decency, joy.... the things that bring us to our wholeness are all part of the package, an ever evolving package.  Sometimes that means being a strong person and sometimes a weak one, but usually somewhere in between.  Disasters happen, outrageous windfalls happen.  Who am I in those times? 

We don't know who we are if we don't know who we are not and it is an amazing thing to discover every day.  Who am I?  I don't know 100%, but I do know this.

I am becoming the person I am.

peace and passion
sunshine



Dnomyar -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/21/2008 5:35:23 AM)

Romantic love. Im swooning and starting to feel faint.  An intresting point was brought up. I would rather embrace who I am and be alone than settle for less than I desire.  Thats BS. Thats saying that you will not compromise. Knowing who you are is all and well but no man/woman is an island.



TNstepsout -> RE: Knowing what you are (5/21/2008 5:43:33 AM)

Yes, but I think that NOT knowing what you are will make it even harder. 



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