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Someone who Breaks Into This Country - an illegal, not here Legally from the get-go - has already shown a Predisposition to ignoring all laws. Their whole basis of being in this country is Ignoring the Law.
...you'll have to get used to me cherry-picking, i'm a details man.
The above paragraph that i have 'cherry-picked' contains a rather enormous assumption. It allows those who buy into that assumption to treat illegal immigrants as more likely to commit rape or murder than a legal citizen. Can you prove that? Do you have any data to back that up? If so, then please post it. i will apologise if you can. If you can't then you have an underlying bigotry in your attitude to illegal immigrants.......
Also, the story that begun this thread features a legal worker in the US being deported while in a coma. Why not address that inhumane act, as opposed to trying to make this purely about illegal immigration......
When I take a break later, I'll grab some of the statistics that are public record regarding such things. (IE the reported numbers of things such as repeat criminality, repeat incarceration, escalation of criminal violence, etc.) I would suggest following your own advice, and post statistical evidence that someone who breaks the law on a major issue Isn't more pre-disposed towards other crimes than someone who doesn't. I should still have all the sources for such statistics from the Psychology of Criminal Justice course I took last fall - I need to dig out my notes in a bit. (Required course to finish up the last of my degree program in Psychology.) Can you provide evidence to the contrary of my assertion that major criminal activity from the outset predisposes someone towards further criminal activity?
Do I have an underlying bigotry against Illegal immigrants. Yep, and I don't in the least deny it. It isn't based on their race, gender, sexual preferences or religion - it's based strictly on their Illegal state, because the rest of it means not one thing to me. Race? I don't care whether they're latino, oriental, middle eastern, african or caucasion - if they got here by breaking the law, they got here by breaking the law. Religion? None of my business who they worship or how. Sexual preferences? Why should I give a flyin flip unless they're going to be trying to specifically date me what their sexual preferences are? Hmm... come to think of it, I have a marked and undenied bigotry against those who are convicted felons as well, whether that felony be for something like drug dealing or embezzelment makes little difference to me, unless they can prove to me that they've done their time and changed their ways.
I do not address that "inhumane" act because as was pointed out by someone else - if a person here legally becomes a public ward prior to a certain length of time, they have broken the contract (ie rules) by which they are here, and are therefore no longer here on a Legal basis. Was the woman who's fate you seem so concerned about here Longer than that length of time? If so, then a different set of rules applies than if that time wasn't expired. Was she still under the auspices of that legal Contract? If she was, then the rules that were applied were the correct ones. Was her coma the result of an accident, or due to an existing medical condition which she knew about prior to coming to the US, even legally? While that point might make no Legal difference (not certain, as I have not studied the specific law involved) it would make a difference in how I Personally saw Her Case - either for the positive or for the negative. Since she was here as a Legal worker when she went into the coma, is she persuing means to pay for her medical bills herself, or leaving it up to our taxes to pay for that medical care? (And before you ask, I pay for my medical expenses out of pocket when I incure them - I don't rely on the government and taxpayer monies to do so.
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Luckily in my city they are about to start a LOVELY little program whereby, if you are found to have no insurance during a routine traffic stop, you have your car towed, period. No excuses. To get it back, you have to get insurance (if I read the article right). Otherwise, bye bye car.
Oklahoma as a state goes a step further than that, actually. You cannot register or tag a motor vehical without proof of insurance. And once that vehical is tagged, if the insurance company reports that you've dropped your insurance or allowed it to lapse, but no other insurance agency has informed them that you've got a valid policy with that different company, they suspend your driver's licence and vehical tag. Do I like it? No. Do I agree with it? No. Do I carry insurance because I'm not given any Choice, even if I have the means to pay for vehicular repairs to someone else's car should I be in an accident? Yes - because I consider it the lesser of two evils, between that and driving without a licence or under suspension. Would I Like to be able to ignore it - yep, and if not for the fact that my licence and tag would be suspended, I would continue to do so, because I consider it a scam law. On That particular point you and I will simply have to agree to disagree.
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