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Justme696 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:24:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen What I mean JM696, is that we are the unnatural ones - we are the ones far removed from normal human life with our industrialisation, monetary systems, trading systems et al. We are more like locusts than humans - we believe success is a full belly with nothing to eat tomorrow unless we go find somewhere or something else to ravage. And if we then impose that unnatural, unhealthy and self destructive model on others by way of the primacy it has brought us, by ravaging their more natural, healthy and self preserving model - as poor as it makes them in our eyes - we should not be surprised perhaps if the result is not to the liking of the social consience we have developed as a reaction of disgust at our own culture. E yes we did change alott. For sure. Some of the worst things are caused by the develloped countries. Some like the tribal war far not. It has been there before we came. Interesting thought .

Justme696 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:32:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RealityLicks I took a look at the link you have cited on rape in South Africa. Its a fucking personal blog, man! It claimed that there are 500,000 rapes each year there. When you work it out, that would mean one woman in 43 is raped - every single year. That is quite simply, ridiculous and if it is typical of the "facts" you base your opinions on, ask yourself whether you would accept that source as credible in a European or American context. Further, there is no tribe called the "hutsies", so I suspect the Tutsi have little to fear from them. As regards aid: many countries in Africa take very little aid from the west - as low as 5-6% in the case of Kenya. Please also take away the draconian economic penalties that come with the aid and you'll find many would be better off. Many of Africa's woes are based around poverty and western interference clearly does not help eradicate it. But if the pressure to open their markets was removed from African economies, many companies in the west would fail and jobs would be lost - especially in Holland which exports printed textiles to many countries there and has -unethically - in my opinion - taken out global copyrights on many traditional African textile patterns, thereby depriving poor countries of much-needed foreign exchange. Never mind fabric patterns, do you detect a pattern yet? As far as a choice to live in Ethiopia is concerned, I've never been there but have luckily been invited to a neighbouring east African state and am considering fulfilling an ambition to see it. I do know that over 20,000 British people permanently move to South Africa every year and that that number is climbing rapidly, so they must see something that you, in your wisdom, do not. Always happy to talk about Africa but if you must reply, please, pretty please with a cherry on top, dump the rumours and arm yourself with a few facts. sorry typo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutu#Post-colonial_history_of_the_Hutu_and_Tutsi ( I spelled in in my langauge) http://www.worldpress.org/Africa/1561.cfm quote: South Africa is widely believed to have one of the highest incidences of rape in the world. About 50,000 rapes were reported in 2001 alone http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/1232 . quote: Always happy to talk about Africa but if you must reply, please, pretty please with a cherry on top, dump the rumours and arm yourself with a few facts. ..sorry...but I am the only one posting links to facts.

kittinSol -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:35:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 ..sorry...but I am the only one posting links to facts. Bit smug, aren't you [8\|]?

Justme696 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:40:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp Don't be smug...the opinion of one person does not a justification for killing make. Of course, i don't agree with killing homosexuals. i don't agree with your judge, jury, and executioner approach to African politics either. As i see it, your opinions are as much based on fact, as mine. Africa is rotten to the core. Africa is a rape victim....either way we use metaphor...simply because i called you out on your attitude, you assume mine is somehow less appropriate than yours. Audacious, at best. Perhaps i have some of my rotten Africanness coming to the surface...whatever. Look, i gave you the benefit of the doubt...i figured from prior posts that you're definately not a racist...but what you fail to realize is that the root of European feeling of superiorty over Africa is based in large part to skin color. It's historically fact...not roses or perfume. damn i hate that i have to leave for work now.... It wasn't adressed to you. It seems you are to blinded by rage to even read things. I tried to understand LadyEllens point. Well then call me racist. Use the skincollor remark. Geez. Sorry for beeing white. I was born in Europe. Didn't choose too. NEither I ever asked any one to be "colored" in Africa. it is just about locations. Nothing to do with superiority. IF I was born farther to the east..I would be olive or even yellow. What does that have to do when you discuss a thing. I wonder whois racistic with steering towards that point anyway. I find it a sad way to get of focus from the subject.

Justme696 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:41:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 ..sorry...but I am the only one posting links to facts. Bit smug, aren't you [8\|]? if you explain what smug is, then I might be able to answer.

LadyEllen -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:46:16 AM)
smug = self satisfied, comfortable with your own conclusions etc E

Justme696 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 7:49:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen smug = self satisfied, comfortable with your own conclusions etc E ah ok...thank you LadyEllen well if you don't stand behind your conclusions...then you shouldn't post them. so yes..call me that. Don't see anything wrong with getting facts in a discussion. lol @kittinSol never saw you in the smug clubhouse, but I know you're there.

kittinSol -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 8:06:02 AM)
Well, Justme, if you make assertions like 'Africa is rotten to the core' and follow them up with 'I'm the only one posting links to facts', thus trying to confirm that what is nothing more than your opinion is based in reality, you're going to get called up on it. It's not smug: it's very smug (and that's not all it is) [:(] .

Justme696 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 8:33:23 AM)
depends on how selective you read. The continent is in very bad shape...like it or not. If you think I call all people there trotten, then you read more then I said. The continent is rotten; abuse by the west, tribal warfare, rape, trival wars. It is not just local. It spreads all over the continent. It is damn sad. And very difficult to solve. I hope time does. But a lott of it, they have to solve themselfs. Yes because I said "rotten"and some wonder why I said it...I try to show facts to show why I call it like that. Seems prety normal to me. And I still wonder why we have all those people fleeing from every where in Africa to Europe? I guess you don't see that in the rest of the worlds. Daily 1000 try to flee to Spain or Italy in small boats (if they aren't shot or drowned), to leave behind all wars, rape and mutulation. Any way..the white western superiority remark ruined it. I let it be for what is was. It was an interesting discussion, but I am not in the mood for racial war.

BrigandDoom -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 9:23:23 AM)
It always make me chuckle about the middle east, homosexuality and sodomy. I was told of an incident that happened in a little village outside Torbruk in the last war. A rather burly corporal had caught a local Arab happily engaged in anal intercourse with a young arab of about the age of 10-12. The corporal was about to give the arab the duffing of his life when a sergeant interupted and stopped the corporal. It seems that this was a regular and acceptable occurance among the arabs, infact the young lad was enjoying it! They believed that "allah" would be son of man and they were it seems trying to help create lol. Normally I wouldn't put too much to a tale like this, but the chap who regaled this tale to me was the sergeant concerned, a decorated local war hero who served in the desert rats. He's also not for for bullshitting or for wind-ups and in my studies of WW2 I heard of many similar incidents witnessed and reported by both allied and axis troops, including it is claimed Rommel! Bearing in mind that most arabs are also muslim and Saudi Arabia is a muslim state, it seems that they could be practicing double standards lol

philosophy -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 10:29:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub No slaveboyforyou I don't think sexual preference can be changed by a culture influence...AND..I also don't think how the majority reacts to it is influenced by culture either...that is my point and our difference I'll bet cavemen went around beating pussy homos over the head with clubs...and colonists on Mars will sap them with ray guns in the future as well... ...actually, this points to an intriguing premise. (i'm not saying i agree, but it is intriguing)...if homosexuality has a genetic core, Kd is suggesting a genetic core for homophobia. Despite Kd's aversion to academic research i honestly think this premise is one worth proving or disproving in a systematic way.

lronitulstahp -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 2:25:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Justme696 quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp Don't be smug...the opinion of one person does not a justification for killing make. Of course, i don't agree with killing homosexuals. i don't agree with your judge, jury, and executioner approach to African politics either. As i see it, your opinions are as much based on fact, as mine. Africa is rotten to the core. Africa is a rape victim....either way we use metaphor...simply because i called you out on your attitude, you assume mine is somehow less appropriate than yours. Audacious, at best. Perhaps i have some of my rotten Africanness coming to the surface...whatever. Look, i gave you the benefit of the doubt...i figured from prior posts that you're definately not a racist...but what you fail to realize is that the root of European feeling of superiorty over Africa is based in large part to skin color. It's historically fact...not roses or perfume. damn i hate that i have to leave for work now.... It wasn't adressed to you. It seems you are to blinded by rage to even read things. I tried to understand LadyEllens point. Well then call me racist. Use the skincollor remark. Geez. Sorry for beeing white. I was born in Europe. Didn't choose too. NEither I ever asked any one to be "colored" in Africa. it is just about locations. Nothing to do with superiority. IF I was born farther to the east..I would be olive or even yellow. What does that have to do when you discuss a thing. I wonder whois racistic with steering towards that point anyway. I find it a sad way to get of focus from the subject. Justme...pleae read my earlier posts...not only did i NOT call you racist, i actually said, quote: i figured from prior posts that you're definately not a racist...but what you fail to realize is that the root of European feeling of superiorty over Africa is based in large part to skin color i also said concerning the tone of your earlier post, quote: i don't think it was your intention...but it was the result. i am very careful not to cry "racist" every time someone has an opinion that differs from mine. For you to say otherwise, i find insulting. i also don't respond well to passive-aggressive reverse psychology....so all this: quote: It wasn't adressed to you. It seems you are to blinded by rage to even read things. I tried to understand LadyEllens point. Well then call me racist. Use the skincollor remark. Geez. Sorry for beeing white. I was born in Europe. Didn't choose too. NEither I ever asked any one to be "colored" in Africa. it is just about locations. Nothing to do with superiority. IF I was born farther to the east..I would be olive or even yellow. What does that have to do when you discuss a thing. I wonder whois racistic with steering towards that point anyway. I find it a sad way to get of focus from the subject. i'll just chalk up to bulls*t. i wouuldn't lower myself to use racism as a means of changing the subject. It was relevant. The comment you made which started this whole "exchange" was quote:* That continent is rotten to its core. Generation afther generation is raised in blood and weird thoughts If you don't see anything wrong with thats statement even after all this...it's useless. An excercise in futility. i won't waste further time, or take away from the original idea behind this thread. i have cmail for all that...

kdsub -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 2:34:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: philosophy quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub No slaveboyforyou I don't think sexual preference can be changed by a culture influence...AND..I also don't think how the majority reacts to it is influenced by culture either...that is my point and our difference I'll bet cavemen went around beating pussy homos over the head with clubs...and colonists on Mars will sap them with ray guns in the future as well... ...actually, this points to an intriguing premise. (i'm not saying i agree, but it is intriguing)...if homosexuality has a genetic core, Kd is suggesting a genetic core for homophobia. Despite Kd's aversion to academic research i honestly think this premise is one worth proving or disproving in a systematic way. My premise has been proven over and over again… when the majority of mankind is faced with something it can’t understand it reacts with violence. Each generation born anew naturally reacts with aversion and violence towards homosexuals because they just can’t understand their sexual preference. They are different on a basic level and this difference promotes bigotry and violence. Butch

kdsub -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 2:40:41 PM)
By the way philosophy I have no aversion to academic research. However if I were to write a paper on my views on homos and aborigines who had a bottle land on their heads…. you have no reason to waste your time thinking it is valid science… That is my feeling on this subject. Butch

kittinSol -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 3:43:47 PM)
Subjects like anthropology, which belong to the Humanities, aren't 'pure science'. It doesn't invalidate the research, however. In fact, the Humanities produce little tidbits of subjects such as law, philosophy, languages or history, which are bloody useful, even on a mundane daily basis. You can dismiss them all you what, because they personally bore you or whatever, but it doesn't make them any less important: in fact, much of what you believe or think you know is the product of academic research. Anyway, hijack: over [>:] .

Maya2001 -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 5:09:03 PM)
This map shows international status/laws, where death penalities exist to the other extreme were same sex marriages are allowed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:World_homosexuality_laws.svg

kdsub -> RE: Gambia prez- to kill of every homosexual (5/23/2008 8:15:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Subjects like anthropology, which belong to the Humanities, aren't 'pure science'. It doesn't invalidate the research, however. In fact, the Humanities produce little tidbits of subjects such as law, philosophy, languages or history, which are bloody useful, even on a mundane daily basis. You can dismiss them all you what, because they personally bore you or whatever, but it doesn't make them any less important: in fact, much of what you believe or think you know is the product of academic research. Anyway, hijack: over [>:] . Peace kittinsol I’m not against anthropology or any other valid research…I just think this particular research is bull As I’ve said before it is just my opinion. Butch

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