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Someone suggested having a submissive be useful was "abusive" to some schools of thought.

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Sort of like people who "hard limit" housework.

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Personally,if someone is living under my roof, I expect them to do thier share-it's not as if I do not do the same. Do you think a sub should be willing to work?

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Any relationship where your needs arent being met is unfulfilling and hard on the spirit.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Any relationship where your needs arent being met is unfulfilling and hard on the spirit.

Absolutely - where her contribution doesn't match your needs, forget it.

So, in the spirit of the OP, it's a matter of how much value is placed on housework.

For me, it's of little value, with the exception that where she does the housework, I can use my time more productively. I think there's a lot to be said for the principle of firm but fair; a woman working full time, undertaking the cooking and all of the housework, is too much of a burden and will be counter-productive.

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
Hi Erin,
I don't know if you intended it or not, but you sound kind of angry about such kinds of people, as if you are referring to personal history in doing so. 

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

But I'm just in it to be of sexual service!

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

You asked the question I answered.  You want all submissive types to be one way?  You won't get your way.
Unless you are upfront and communicate what you expect and follow through without hesitation, you end up sending them away in a cab. 
 
the.dark.

 
I told her in advance what would happen if the deals were not kept-she failed to do so-I kept MY word.

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ORIGINAL: chickpea

What do you expect from a "dial-a-slave" website?  Easy come, easy go.  Don't play victim, you knew what you were getting yourself into.  Just in the back of your head it's like i hope, i hope.  Nope, this is a computer where you type up who or how you are.  I't's much harder and more real to do real actions.  You're not going to get a match with those that can type up a cool story, yet haven't gotten their butt off  the computer in the process.  Maybe a semi-match.  But not the real deal relationship.  whine whine whine 

I don't think you are quite getting it. I freely admit to making mistakes in my younger days-fool me once, shame on me. (It was unfortunately-quite real) It's not a thing to repeat. I'm just curious as to how some rationalize it.

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Do you think a sub should be willing to work?

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

But I'm just in it to be of sexual service!

vacuum cleaning in a sexy way counts too  

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ORIGINAL: Floggings4You

If the person is living with you, then the relationship is 24/7.  Thus, it seems to Me that you're referring to M/s, not D/s...

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin



Yes, emphatically! A person who does not carry their own load is dead weight.

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ORIGINAL: chickpea

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

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ORIGINAL: chickpea

What do you expect from a "dial-a-slave" website?  Easy come, easy go.  Don't play victim, you knew what you were getting yourself into.  Just in the back of your head it's like i hope, i hope.  Nope, this is a computer where you type up who or how you are.  I't's much harder and more real to do real actions.  You're not going to get a match with those that can type up a cool story, yet haven't gotten their butt off  the computer in the process.  Maybe a semi-match.  But not the real deal relationship.  whine whine whine 

I don't think you are quite getting it. I freely admit to making mistakes in my younger days-fool me once, shame on me. (It was unfortunately-quite real) It's not a thing to repeat. I'm just curious as to how some rationalize it.

Basically, people sit behind a computer and find a Master.  And then, they finally get their ass off the chair from the computer, sit at your place, and expect a Master.  What? is some magical potion supposed to change them from the lazy person that they were to begin with?  I don't see the point in figuring out how some people rationalize it.  Just a habit repeating itself is what i see.  We can idealize and fantasize all we want behind a freaking computer screen, but people are people and that won't ever change...no matter how many new people you bring.

So go whine, and call subs names.  It's just hilarious to me.  Guess where I go when I'm feeling lazy bored or want to blow off steam?  Yeah you guessed it, right here.  Yeah for better luck, maybe you should call 1-800-SLAVE-NOW, if I'm really bored I maybe waiting on the other end of the line (and if you're REALLY LUCKY, I'll be sooo anxious to do my share of the housework or whatever grueling slave work you can throw at me in a loving, caring relationship when I answer the slave hotline).  *grin* 

Hey, not to burst your bubble or something horrible and aweful like that, but I see history repeating itself.

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

You asked the question I answered.  You want all submissive types to be one way?  You won't get your way.
Unless you are upfront and communicate what you expect and follow through without hesitation, you end up sending them away in a cab. 
 
the.dark.

 
I told her in advance what would happen if the deals were not kept-she failed to do so-I kept MY word.

ahhhhh so this thread is really about getting the validation from others that you were right to expect your sub to 'work' and when she didnt leave the relationship ?