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DomAviator -> RE: When will it end?...... (5/25/2008 9:51:36 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Owner59
The worst offender of them all, has got to be the satanic Federal Aviation Administration.
Who the fuck do those devil worshiping FAA folks think they are to impose rules and guidelines for aircraft/air ports?There should only be suggestions,not hard rules about when, how and where to land/take off.
Forcing pilots to fly in recognized air traffic lanes,imposing altitude restrictions and no-fly zones is a form of nanny-state meddling.
Whoever gets to the landing/takeoff lanes 1st,gets to take off or land.If there is a crash,well,the "market" thing again,remember?
That control tower is filled with control freaks and mini-Napoleons anyway.Fuck them!
And to think, we pay their salaries.How dumb is that?We (the tax-payer)pay the air traffic controller`s salary,yet we let them order us around.
Pilots are individuals and America is all about individual freedom, so we mustn't tell them to get a license , regular physical exams or ongoing training/certification.
If they can start the engine and make it go,who is the government care either way?
If a guy crashes a plane and kills himself and his passengers,then the 'market' has spoken and gotten rid of the losers.See how freedom works?[8|]
Actually, while pilots often joke that FAA stands for "Fucking Asshole Association" the post above is FULL of factual errors.
#1) Nobody forces me to take off and land anywhere. Off airport landing and take offs are completely permissible. In both airplanes and helicopters I have made off airport take offs and landings... There is no rule that you have to use airports.... There is a dude ranch I vacation at in Colorado and the day Im coming the manager clears the horses out of one of the pastures so I can land there. If I am going to my cabin I land on the road infront of the driveway and taxi the plane into the driveway. My most recent helicopter time, we landed this guys Bell 206 in the grass behind a resteraunt so we could go in and get catfish and hush puppies... All entirely legal!
#2) Pilots do NOT have to fly in "recognized air traffic lanes." The closest thing to such an animal is the "Victor Airways" and I use them when flying IFR because the navigation is done for me and there is a publied Minimum Enroute Altitude so that I know how high I have to be to not hit anything without looking at the chart for towers, guy wires, etc. I would say less than 1% of the airspace in the country is restricted. (Not CONTROLLED but restricted is like "dont go here") If I am VFR (as most flights are but I prefer IFR) I can choose my own routing. Even IFR they will say "Cleared to 9,000" meaning I can climb to or descend from any alitude between the MEA and 9,000 without notifiying them or asking permission.
#3) About 93% of airports in the US are uncontrolled so it is indeed "whoever gets to take off and land first. If you plan to take off you dont ask anyone - you simply announce your intentions as in "Podunk Traffic Cessna 123AB departing runway two five" or "Podunk Traffic Cessna 123AB Ten miles out over the Bunghole VORTAC and 3000 for two five Podunk"... Podunk Traffic Alpha Bravo Turning Base Podunk Two Five" etc... There is no control tower at most airports and no air traffic control. Even many airports that have towers only operate part time... So the tower may be attended from 6am to 10 pm after which the field is uncontrolled.
#4) There have been MANY MANY MANY times I have refused an air traffic controllers instructions or clearances. The pilot in command NOT the controller is the final authority and has the right to reject any and all clearances. In fact, many times controllers will issue impractical and unsafe instructions simply because they are controllers NOT pilots... I have been asked to "maintain 200 kts" in a cessna (which doesnt DO 200 kts) and to slow a jet down below its stall speed. I have also had an interesting argument with a controller as to whether or not my gear was down when the aircraft had fixed gear. "Two Four Charlie your nose gear is NOT down!!!! Do not attempt to land your nose gear is NOT DOWN" "Of couse my nose gear isnt down, its a 170 not a 172 and they put the TAILWHEEL on it in Wichita, Kansas when they built it!!! This aircraft is a fixed gear taildragger - I have three down and WELDED IN PLACE!!! Meanwhile this fucking idiot was rolling out firetrucks!!!! But anyway, pilots routinely tell controllers no and have authority to do so. In fact if it becomes a pissing match and the controller doesnt back down and reassign a new clearance we can deviate from any instruction to the extent necessary for safety and submit a report.
#5) Not all pilots have licenses or medicals. Ultralight pilots need nothing except a mental disease or defect that posesses them to take a flying lawnchair with a chainsaw motor into the sky. Sport Pilots do not need a medical if they have a valid drivers license, neither do hot air balloon or glider pilots. You dont need ongoing training or certification unless you intend to carry passengers... An airmans certificicate is good for life. I could stop flying for 10 years then get back into a plane and make three take offs and landings and tell the passengers "Ya'll hop in now Im legal again!" If Ive made 6 instrument approaches I dont need an Instrument Proficiency Check, and I have actually NEVER had a bieenial flight review or a flight instructor renewal because I am meeting the requirements in other ways such as students signed off for a checkride so I bypass the regs. Ongoing training is really only for commercial / corporate / airline pilots and it is more of an insurance requirement than an FAA requirement. "Sure your pilots are good but if you want coverage on you $10,000,000 airplane you WILL send them for refresher training or we wont cover you for hull loss..."
So basically EVERY example you cited of the FAA is 100% wrong.... Its not as regulated as you think...
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