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Cuckold - 5/24/2008 7:46:45 AM

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sorry I have so many questions....For the Mistresses.. what is the advantage to cuckolding a sub?

Do many Mistresses actaully do it? There is so much on the net, but I don't beleive a lot of it

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 8:22:48 AM

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 10:15:11 AM

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The advantage to the sub?

Well, I can speak for Angel, my Owner's cuckholded pet. He finds it erotic. It also fits since he could never be in a romantic relationship with my Owner. Simply because his strict religious principles forbid it and the fact that she's engaged to me. So, he never has to worry about her desiring something that he can't give her, as another advantage?

Is there an advantage to me? No, beyond my Owner's happiness.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 11:09:58 AM

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what is cuckolding?

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 11:17:58 AM

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Traditionally, it's where a wife has sex with other men all while having a husband who doesn't get anything other than humiliation and ridicule. It can be anything from a springboard into forced bi scenerios to just a simple fantasy that gets fulfilled once in a blue moon. Though there doesn't have to be any marriage involved, obviously.

It's actually a rather broad term.

I hope my definition is good enough.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 11:54:09 AM

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Simply because his strict religious principles forbid it and the fact that she's engaged to me.

His strict religious principles forbid him from committing adultery, but not from coveting another man's fiance? I'm familiar with the 10 commandments and Christian ethics, and that just doesn't make any sense to me.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 11:57:10 AM

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Thanks, at least I have an idea now what it means.........always wondered?

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 12:08:27 PM

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to me cucking falls into the same category as chastity...it very much so sets a slave into their place, establishes a great mindset of this is where you belong, and this is where the true men belong ie the bull. bull being the man that the cuckee would watch engaging in activities with the Dominant

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 8:12:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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Simply because his strict religious principles forbid it and the fact that she's engaged to me.

His strict religious principles forbid him from committing adultery, but not from coveting another man's fiance? I'm familiar with the 10 commandments and Christian ethics, and that just doesn't make any sense to me.

It's my understanding that it doesn't have to may sense.. to you, it's between him and the relationship he has with his higher power.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/24/2008 10:06:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: BigBaby

what is cuckolding?

Traditionally (meaning always, until misuse of the word became widespread) a cuckold was a man whose wife had sex with other men. Period. IMNSHO, people saw the term being used, and, as people often do, developed their own (mistaken) understanding of the definition from its context (rather than looking it up in a dictionary). A new, broader definition was born, and spread in forums like CM. By the original definition, there couldn't be a cuckold without an adulteress.

This frequently happens to words. "Chauvinist" is one example of a word that had a very specific meaning that got almost completely lost when the word was popularized in a specific phrase ("male chauvinist pig"). Most people who have used the term since the dawn of the Women's Lib movement have no idea of its actual definition.

In some cases, I think the evolving definition of words seems normal and rational. In other cases, it seems sad that ignorance and misuse of language results in a word losing its meaning.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 2:50:42 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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Simply because his strict religious principles forbid it and the fact that she's engaged to me.

His strict religious principles forbid him from committing adultery, but not from coveting another man's fiance? I'm familiar with the 10 commandments and Christian ethics, and that just doesn't make any sense to me.

Judge not lest ye be judged...

His personal religious beiefs are about sex before marriage. Not adultry and not coveting. The only reason Angel is cuckolded and has not been taken yet ie becasue he believes that sex before marriage is unforgivable and he wants to save himself only for the one he might eventaully wed. We have known from the beginning that was not going to be me. Fox forgets to mention that Angel was involved with me nearly a year before I even met him. We are not nor have we been romantically involved. However, there are dynamics of our relationship that lend to his cuckolding fantasy, including aspects of humiliation. Not that I really need to defend it, nor do I care if you approve, since it has been hapily working for us 3 for almost a year now. Just thought Id clear things up a touch.

The advantage for me? Best of both worlds. Angel is my baby, but would never have been anything more. Fox is my lover. The fact that having a lover has enhanced the relationship I ahve with Ange is a bonus, I am fulfilled, his fantasy is a reality and Fox is comfortable in his place with me.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 3:48:52 AM

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Judge not lest ye be judged...

His personal religious beiefs are about sex before marriage. Not adultry and not coveting. The only reason Angel is cuckolded and has not been taken yet ie becasue he believes that sex before marriage is unforgivable and he wants to save himself only for the one he might eventaully wed. We have known from the beginning that was not going to be me. Fox forgets to mention that Angel was involved with me nearly a year before I even met him. We are not nor have we been romantically involved. However, there are dynamics of our relationship that lend to his cuckolding fantasy, including aspects of humiliation. Not that I really need to defend it, nor do I care if you approve, since it has been hapily working for us 3 for almost a year now. Just thought Id clear things up a touch.

The advantage for me? Best of both worlds. Angel is my baby, but would never have been anything more. Fox is my lover. The fact that having a lover has enhanced the relationship I ahve with Ange is a bonus, I am fulfilled, his fantasy is a reality and Fox is comfortable in his place with me.

DV

I wasn't making a moral judgment. I'm not a Christian, and I don't have any moral objection to what you're doing. I really don't care. I was simply expressing a bit of cynicism at the post I read. Christianity is not a religion you get to pick and choose from. I don't agree with many of the things I read in the Bible, so I don't call myself a Christian. It wasn't a personal attack or a judgment. I was just a little bewildered by what I read.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 12:38:27 PM

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Then perhaps youd learn more by saying you are bewildered and asking for clarification rather than bashing someone elses religious choices. Especially if you dont care.
Just saying. I am protective of my boys and you certainly didnt make an innocent question, you made a jab. I responded.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 12:47:06 PM

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Some months back, I mentioned my primary reason for posting was to help other people, and slaveboyforu responded that his sole reason for posting was his own entertainment.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 1:06:50 PM

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Whatever the motivation, my rebuttal has closed my concern with the sitaution. Thosw who wish to know more about how I deal with my boys are more than free to ask. Always have been. Those who decide to make comments about it are welcome to their opinions, but their opinions dont affect me. I will point out the truth of MY situation, which of course applies solely to me and mine. I do not assume it is agreeable to or workable for anyone else. Just like I dont judge others kinks, Id prefer mine not be picked apart for someone elses amusement. But, since it will undoubtably hapen, I will respond then ignore. I am not going to debate my decisions, I just wanted to make sure th motivations we had were clear. I am quite done with the topic, unless someone has questions for me about it.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 1:39:38 PM

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Then perhaps youd learn more by saying you are bewildered and asking for clarification rather than bashing someone elses religious choices. Especially if you dont care.
Just saying. I am protective of my boys and you certainly didnt make an innocent question, you made a jab. I responded.

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I didn't "make a jab" at anyone, and I certainly didn't "bash" someone's religious choices. You're being paranoid and overly defensive. I speak to grown men with the assumption they can take criticism like a grown man. If I was sitting in a bar or having coffee at work and someone made that claim, I would have said the same thing. Your boy made a post that was illogical to me, and I expressed my dissent appropriately. I did not use insulting, crude, or inflammatory language when I posted. But you're right, it wasn't an "innocent question." It was a cynical remark in response to an illogical statement. I am honest and upfront, and I realize that comes off as abrasive sometimes. But my post was not meant to be insulting or condescending.

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Some months back, I mentioned my primary reason for posting was to help other people, and slaveboyforu responded that his sole reason for posting was his own entertainment.

Red, I think you're leaving out a few details about that thread. I disagreed with people (including you) about the existence of vampires. You tried to insult me with condescending language. I felt their was some pretentious delusions of grandeur on your part, and I responded in kind. As far as I know, I am allowed to disagree with people here. No, I am not here to help people. I am not qualified to do that. I am here for my own self-serving reasons just like every one else that is here. I am honest, and I don't pretend to be something I am not.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 2:04:21 PM

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Actually, SB, you did come off as being judgemental, regardless of your intention.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 2:25:41 PM

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Actually, SB, you did come off as being judgemental, regardless of your intention.

Lady Hibiscus,

I do not wish to hijack this thread. I really didn't think my comment would generate controversy. I am allowed to have an opinion, and when someone says somthing I find to be wrong I say so. If you say you're a Christian, than you follow the Old and New Testaments. The Ten Commandments are not suggestions, they are COMMANDMENTS. If you pick and choose which commandments are right and wrong, then you are wrong (according to Christian doctrine). I don't care what denomination a person is, all of them follow those commandments.

I am not being judgmental. As I said, I am not a Christian. It doesn't matter to me in the slightest when it comes to the activities mentioned. But hypocracy does matter to me. It bothers me, and I said so.

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 3:01:26 PM

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RE: Cuckold - 5/25/2008 5:51:33 PM

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Yeah, I'm not going to be baited into feeing an obvious troll.

When you claim to be more in tune with a person's --personal-- relationship with God more than -they- are, you lose. I'm done here. Have a nice day. :-)

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