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Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 years o... - 5/24/2008 2:44:44 PM   
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What do you see happening with the U.S. in terms or growth, disappointment or gains?
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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 3:04:50 PM   
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I will be a fabulous CEO earning a compensation package- of 6.2 mil.

I will be astoundingly muscular, and highly sought after.

I will then form my own country and secced.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 3:07:31 PM   
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The slow decline will gain momentum.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 4:17:38 PM   
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That we will still be trying to predict the future despite the fact that our track record on predictions is laughably poor.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 4:21:29 PM   
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kittensol will be in canada married to me.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 4:22:05 PM   
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The slow decline will gain momentum.


I'm hoping for some outflation.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 4:32:26 PM   
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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 4:42:16 PM   
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I do have a feeling that for those that hate routine they will love the way the future pans out.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 5:03:30 PM   
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The way you're saying that, I'm starting to love routine .

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 5:05:11 PM   
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Let's see... (I like projecting forward like this... I love writing science fiction...)

We'll be crippled by gas eventually going over $6.00 a gallon.

The fact that families will have to channel all their extra income into energy will kill off all but the hardiest of entertainment industries.

Local resteraunts, depending on people having spare cash to eat out, will close by the droves.

Unable to support cars that cost $20+ k, Detroit has massive layoffs and closings. The only cars selling will be hybrid and electric imports (built by the japanese, who are always several steps ahead)

MASSIVE UNEMPLOYMENT....

The expense of heating costs drive seniors on fixed incomes to live in barracks, to share the costs, to avoid freezing to death. Set up in closed down businesses, many try to heat the buildings by building makshift fireplaces... inevitably, they go out of control... thousands die.

Gardening in your front yard becomes the next "growth industry" like scrapbooking, it's a social fad. Others, not so inspired, will simply start stealing your veggies at 3:00 am.

Scooter sales go through the roof... unfortunately, sharing the road with regular vehicles, the number of fatal accidents skyrocket.

Exposed to poor weather, a large fraction of our workforce, commuting via scooters or bicycles, sickens and dies of pneumonia. Billions of dollars are lost in terms of lost man hours of effort, and the strain on the insurance industry via claims causes preminums to rise beyond the grasp of all but the top 2% of income earners. 

The "American Dream" of owning your own home becomes an impossible one. Lack of regulation makes buying a house from a mortgage broker worse than playing roulette. The cost of homes themselves now reach near a million for a three bedroom double wide.

Throughout the US, there will be vast tent cities of those who have lost their homes, their jobs, and their communities to the out of control energy crisis. "Bushvilles" become a common sight on the 6:00 news, as more murders, prostitution and drug deals go on there than in any classic ghetto of the last century.

Increased stress, both economically,  and spiritually, causes more fights... the number of deaths due to guns quadruples.

Dispair sets in. People looking for answers why their lives have been falling apart, turn to "fringe" groups... weird religions, the KKK and neo nazisim flourish. More violence, more death.

Eventually, we reach a tipping point, and the US either collpases due to an epidemic, or else starving people riot and set entire cities ablaze like LA in the early 1990's....

Chaos.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 5:13:18 PM   
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The way you're saying that, I'm starting to love routine .


It was always funny hearing the anarchists talk about how they would like any kind of chaos in the future. I always thought that they hadn't really thought it through too well as to what true anarchy represents because there are plenty of the places in the world where true anarchy exists and it's the last place you'll find an anarchist.

I turn on the tap and water comes out, I flick a switch and the room lights up it’s great. Is life too easy for me? Probably.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 5:17:51 PM   
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Depends...

If McCain wins in November.... Economic depression.

If Obama wins in November....Civil War

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 8:06:42 PM   
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If Obama wins in November....Civil War


I just love seeing people blow things out of proportion.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 8:30:46 PM   
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In five years after president Obama has tried hard 4 years to fix the system  without much success new strong president has emerged. There will be an analogy with Carter-Reagan cycle. 

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 9:03:16 PM   
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Damn, that was impressive bipolar. Out to the logical conclusion.

As far as I am concerned the whole entertainment industry can go to hell in a handbasket, on fire. Pretty boys and pretty girls pandering the the basest elements, and their bosses who make even more than they.

But, over the years I have come to see clearly something that many find hard to discern. Everything cuts both ways. The fact is that the entertainment industry is doing very well in the export department. They actually are bringing money into the economy.

Having people go back to scooters ? Yup, it would probably be dangerous for a time, but even this archaic society will adapt, or lose tax money.

But I see it as you do, but of course from my perspective. I think we will see more homeless people, and I think it will get to the point where they build a bit more substantial housing in discrete locations, like under bridges and such. There are plenty of places to hide.

OK, we own the house, years ago I was thinking about leaving my suite, so I let some people look at it. In a one bedroom there are three walk in closets, which is actually pretty rare. The couple I knew from nextdoor looked and when she saw the one closet she said "Hell that's a bedroom". This was over ten years ago. Granted it is a big closet, you could almost get a queen size bed in there, but a bedroom ?

In the future we are going to have many more abandond ivory towers and filled rat traps. And who is going to fill them ? The people who used to live in the ivory towers. By ivory towers I mean houses that are overtly showoff material. You used to have a five bedroom brick western bungalo with a four car garage, but now you live in an apartment and the people next door are arguing and keeping you up.

One hell of an equalizer eh ? Let it come. Let them come see how it is.

Kinda the same concept as the former SUV driver on a scooter huh ?

Bi, I think you are being optimistic about six bucks a gallon, I think it will be more like fifteen.

And by the way, folks who don't drive will feel this as well, cab fares and bus tickets will go up, as well as anything transported anywhere. In the end the consumer pays it all, and in the end is how we pay for some things, if ya know whadd I mean.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 9:12:19 PM   
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I've been through this back in 1983.  We moved from Ohio where the area we were in had a 25% unemployment.    Life cycles.  In 5 years, I hope to have another 5 years paid off of my mortgage and still in the house I love so dearly.
 
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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 9:32:02 PM   
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Depends...

If McCain wins in November.... Economic depression.

If Obama wins in November....Civil War


I'm actually impressed......Interestingly enough....I see a similar scenario on the horizon.




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Edited to add : In upcoming threads after Hiliary is out of the picture - I will do a very nuanced breakdown analysis on why---absent some FBI fiasco regards McCain----I believe the candidate, Obahma, is totally unelectable.



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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 9:57:08 PM   
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All the fans of "gloom and doom" scenarios will feel a profound sense of humiliation for having doubted the resourcefulness of their fellow Americans, and will wonder what they ever saw in Buffoon Obama.

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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 10:19:13 PM   
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5 Years,

McCain will have been elected once and have just started a second term.
A Democratic led Congress will have started to tip back the other way, owning to a approval rate for Congress remaining in the 30-40% range.
Deadlock in Congress will have kept all meaningfull change from happening. (Supermajorities to get out of commitee will be normal.

People will have after finishing off the payments on their monster SUV's shifted over to Hybrids and be continueing to migrate back into the cities.
China's demand for energy will continue to grow however their own health will have started to suffer due to polution and they will have to slow down their growth because of the population's health, riots, and work stopages. They will initiate 1970's like ecological initiatives
India will have continued to boom and their demands for energy growing as well but they too will have to initiate polution controls similar to our own from the 1970's

Private schools will explode in growth owing to the fact that the Public system has remained impotent.
Home prices will have resumed their climb.
Minority families will once again be complaining about being redlined from home loans.
But the recovery from Sub Prime will be used as a defense to keeping high rates for people without a nearly perfect credit history.

Tax Code will be another 10,000 pages long and income tax preparing will be beyond anyone without 80 hours and a college degree in accounting preparing for themselves.

Iraq will have been drawn down but a presence much like the one in Korea will be remaining.






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RE: Where do you think we will all be in the next 5 yea... - 5/24/2008 10:30:11 PM   
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In 5 years, I'll be 38.  I'll be in the hospital penniless and recuperating from my worldwide, two-year spree of gluttonous, lustful debauchery that would make Caligula blush with shame.  All of this proceeds my winning of the largest Powerball jackpot in history in the spring of 2010. 

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