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Lordandmaster -> RE: Paranormal (10/24/2005 5:16:14 PM)
Well, that was my whole point. We don't know enough about the laws of physics to be able to say definitively what does and does not defy the laws of physics. I don't believe in ghosts either, but there is all kinds of shit that no one knows how to explain. quote: ORIGINAL: frenchpet Lol, I don't think that's what OP had in mind. I think the question was about things that defies laws of physics, things that are momentary and limited exceptions to the laws of physics which are supposed to be the same anywhere in the universe, not about strange laws of physics.

pinkpleasures -> RE: Paranormal (10/24/2005 7:08:20 PM)
Mostly when i was young, more than normal 5 sensory inputs could explain, i "knew" a person was evil and to be avoided. i believe that because my upbringing was so dangerous, my guardian angel was closer to me than most. i have felt my parents' presence, and feel confident i will be reunited with them when i die. None of this is strictly Catholic dogma, but i do not think the Church is the repository of all knowledge either. i can still see auras s'times and i can feel a fight before it breaks out, giving me time to move away. i also generally know who is on the phone...though i wish Men would not say "hi, it's me" as if no other male might be calling, LOL. i think some people have been gifted in a way not everyone understands....and i think possibly there are ghosts...i have never experienced such a thing but i do not discount it. A great deal depends on Your opinion on the after-life, or lack of one. pinkpleasures

UtopianRanger -> RE: Paranormal (10/24/2005 11:20:13 PM)
quote: Have you seen Bigfoot? (I KNEW IT! One out of four. Damn, I'm good.) Haven't seen Bigfoot, but I definitely believe they exist in small numbers, especially here is in the Pacific Northwest. I live in the coastal mountains , which has been host to a tremendous amount of sightings. I also live fairly close to Bluff Creek, California {Six rivers national forest}, where the famous ''Patterson Film'' was shot -- The area is so vast, that after you really get to see it by air, you become very aware that something could live in there without ever coming much into contact with humans. I also believe that we are being visited, and that elements of the government are well aware of what's going on. The incident in the ''Rendlesham forest'' is a classic example of the goverments involvement and cover-up. The '' Flatwoods monster'' case is another that I find very intriguing. The mere fact that the ''Condon report'' { Project blue book } exists is very telling. This is a great topic of conversation. - The Ranger

Lordandmaster -> RE: Paranormal (10/24/2005 11:40:49 PM)
Well, I find that a little hard to believe. The government can't even keep Porter Goss's social-security number secret. You think they've been able to the greatest story in human history secret? quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger I also believe that we are being visited, and that elements of the government are well aware of what's going on.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 12:11:37 AM)
quote: Well, I find that a little hard to believe. The government can't even keep Porter Goss's social-security number secret. You think they've been able to the greatest story in human history secret? Lam.... I don't think it is secret, just not sensationalized. I think that most people have been programmed thru ought their childhood to always believe what the guy with twenty-eight-hundred-dollar suit and fake alligator shoes says on the six-o'clock news. And if it's not said or seen there, they just don't believe. I also think that elements of the government think that if the cat is let out of the bag, there might be widespread pandemonium with all the fanatics and ''fire and brimstone'' people. Hell... Just read the ''Pheonix lights'' story from a few years back. Thousands of people witnessed a HUGE slow and fast moving flying triangle, that made absolutely no noise and was able to maneuver in ways that defied conventional thinking, yet it made the mainstream news only months after it happened. - The Ranger

ShadeDiva -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 12:11:44 AM)
Ray and I love to do paranormal photographyand like to find hotspots to do photography in. Between us we have a lot of experiences that are interesting and rather spooky. Things we term as ghosts seem to love to talk with him, and they do seem to love to make themselves known to both of us, ad especially seem to get a hoot out of spooking the bejezus outta me. I also have had what I've decided to call a ghost that follows me around and has since I was 7. He REALLY loves hiding things, especially money, and sometimes will hide stuff for YEARS (hrough mutliple moves) until one day it appears in plain sight. I have two others that periodically check in on me and one is a dog I bonded with while he was living between the ages of 12-15. Always smell wet dog when he manifests (part of his death) ad often would feel like a dog was nosing or licking my legs or hand - something he used to do in a particular way. When he first started appearing I'd get terrified for no reason before I would realize that the fear wasnt stemming FROM me, but from outside me. Best I could guess was that he was scared to be dead and was confused, he happened to die the day I moved up to Northern California. He still visits, but it's been a long long time since I last felt he was around. I have oodles and oodles of spooky stories, some that were explained, some that reamin a mystery.

NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 12:31:02 AM)
I had a similar experience when I was eighteen. This particular entity followed me through two moves and many vacations over the course of three years. I would wake up in the middle of the night to someone talking to me, I'd turn over and something would be in bed next to me. This happened alone as well as with others. I didn't particularly have to be asleep, but the lights would have to be off. I thought I was going crazy, but those I've shared a bed with claim to have seen it as well. It scared the crap out of me, so I started sleeping with my bedroom lights on (yeah, it's sad). I finally asked it to leave and not come back, and I haven't seen it since.

FangsNfeet -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 6:31:11 AM)
The strangest experience I've had delt with a TV that wouldn't turn off. I hit power several times followed by pulling the plug from the socket. My TV was still on for a full minuet after that. I also remember watching the movie White Noise. At the time I worked in a Trauma ICU where ppl die now and then. The odd part is that when we bought new TV's for the rooms, they would go static for no reason now and then. You had to turn the TV's off and back on to get rid of the static and back to the channel. I like watching Haunted Locations on the History and Travel channels and would like to visit some of the resorts sooner than later. At anyrate, ghost hunting itself is something I don't bother with. A real ghost will make itself known when it's damn good and ready. I like scary movies, the new WB series Super Natural, and I'm still and X Files fan. However, you're not going to find much of any proof that ghost, aliens, and such really exist when you go out hunting for it. Oeja boards, holding hands in circles while chanting, and performing rituals will not summon anything but an active imagination. There are no real psychics, EPE ppl, or mediums. Just gullibiltiy with people having a sence of empathy with the environment and there imagination. The show Ghost Hunters has yet to impress me that ghost exist and haunt certain locations Anyhow, there will always be things in life that we will but unable to explain. It's ashame that we normally conclude them as religious, supernatural, or alien based situations untill more science kicks in. In short, Ghost are nothing but stories left behind for history and tourisim. After you hear the story, your imagination will do the rest of the work to give the area that creepy feeling.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 6:37:39 AM)
Part of the reason I love quantum physics so much is that I'm hoping that it can combine everything into an understood event, or process. I don't really GET a lot of it, especially the math, but that's what I have the boyfriend for. The deeper you go into biology, the more it becomes chemisty. The deeper you go into chemistry, the more it becomes physics. The deeper you go into physics, the more it becomes quantum physics. The deeper you go into quantum physics, you realize we really have no idea what's going on with what. It's all connected. Similiar to how I'd love nothing more than for bdsm and Ds to become "just another choice," I'd love for all this to become "just another part of being human."

FangsNfeet -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 6:49:44 AM)
quote: The deeper you go into biology, the more it becomes chemisty. The deeper you go into chemistry, the more it becomes physics. The deeper you go into physics, the more it becomes quantum physics. The deeper you go into quantum physics, you realize we really have no idea what's going on with what. It's all connected. That breaks everything down to being energy. Heat, electical impulses, and attraction. True the human body is filled with energy. After it dies the energy is dispersed. You could call that the human soul if you were trying to prove a soul existed by science. After all, no one has determined exactly where that energy goes. When something is caught odd on camera or tape, is it bad lighting, a messed up Black Room, or did you actually catch the essence or energy left behind from a dead person?

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 7:24:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet That breaks everything down to being energy. But then we reach another problem- what IS energy? We can "see" it, measure its effects, predict its behavior to a certain level (and when it gets to the unpredictable part is the really fun area), but we don't know really what "energy" is. quote: When something is caught odd on camera or tape, is it bad lighting, a messed up Black Room, or did you actually catch the essence or energy left behind from a dead person? Or something else completely.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 8:21:17 AM)
Well, of all the alleged UFO sightings I've read about, the only one that raised my eyebrows was the one involving the Belgian Air Force. But I'm not convinced that they tracked an extraterrestrial spaceship, and even if they did, that still doesn't mean there have been routine visitations that governments have known about for years. Maybe--but I'd really be stunned. quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger Hell... Just read the ''Pheonix lights'' story from a few years back. Thousands of people witnessed a HUGE slow and fast moving flying triangle, that made absolutely no noise and was able to maneuver in ways that defied conventional thinking, yet it made the mainstream news only months after it happened.

frenchpet -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 8:49:27 AM)
Recently (this summer) bigfoot was seen by "serious" people (they aren't crazy and weren't drunk, at least. So samples of hair were taken exatly were bigfoot was seen, for a DNA analysis : bigfoot is a buffalo. The people who claimed they saw bigfoot were probably not liars, but one thing is for sure : they have never heard of Occam's razor. Just a question about UFOs : how is it the maps of ufo sightings show maximum densities in the USA, England, France, and northern Italy, where there is a very strong ET culture (for example Planet of the apes is a french book, and unfortunately the guru of the sect of the Raelians is from the southeast of France... not from another planet). It's quite strange that so few UFOs have been seen in Asia, much fewer than in the USA which are much smaller and ten times less populated. Is it that Ets don't like Asia ? Or maybe because the aliens do business with the US government only ? Seriously I need an explaination, because I really can't see how aliens could be seen only by a few people with naked eyes, given all the military radars all over the world. Did anyone bother to check the logs of either the Laboratoire de Zététique or the other one ? Seriously if I had a paranormal power like reading in the mind of people or telekinesis or anything like that, I would claim 1 million dollars right now, and then I'll go for 200k€. So why is it that people who claimed those prizes (hundreds of people) were all pathetic losers, so far ? Most people who claim they have "psychic" powers are crooks who simply have the power of taking money to credulous people. If ONE really could do what they claim, why wouldn't they go and claim a million dollars ? Not interested in money [sm=lol.gif] ?

Lordandmaster -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 8:55:18 AM)
Well, gratia argumentandi: aliens could be targeting advanced nations. It's also striking that so many of the alleged sightings have occurred near military bases. And I'm sure it would be a lot easier for an alien spaceship to fly undetected in Africa than in the middle of Belgium. At any rate, I agree with you: any convincing account of all these sightings that explains them as alien visitations has to explain the distribution of the sightings. Oh, and not just the geographical distribution, but the chronological distribution as well. Why is it that all UFO sightings occurred after WWII? quote: ORIGINAL: frenchpet Just a question about UFOs : how is it the maps of ufo sightings show maximum densities in the USA, England, France, and northern Italy, where there is a very strong ET culture (for example Planet of the apes is a french book, and unfortunately the guru of the sect of the Raelians is from the southeast of France... not from another planet). It's quite strange that so few UFOs have been seen in Asia, much fewer than in the USA which are much smaller and ten times less populated. Is it that Ets don't like Asia ? Or maybe because the aliens do business with the US government only ? Seriously I need an explaination, because I really can't see how aliens could be seen only by a few people with naked eyes, given all the military radars all over the world.

frenchpet -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 9:01:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster At any rate, I agree with you: any convincing account of all these sightings that explains them as alien visitations has to explain the distribution of the sightings. Oh, and not just the geographical distribution, but the chronological distribution as well. Why is it that all UFO sightings occurred after WWII? Simple : because before that, aliens didn't believe in earthlings.

FangsNfeet -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 11:25:41 AM)
So I've already posted my thoughts on ghost. Now there's BigFoot and other so called monsters. I myself will not dispute nor aggree to the existance to Big Foot nor Lock Ness. But I do think we would have found proof by now or it's a military science cover up. Either way, many ppl have made big bucks exploiting the two and Big Foot nor Lock Ness have been able to cash in on any of it. Were Wolves, Vampires, and such perhaps do exist but Sci Fi and Fantasy have given us to many definitions of what a Real Were Wolf or Vampire is. Chance are that our imaginations have givin them more than a few One Ups when writting and telling stories about them. Those are my thoughts.

darkinshadows -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 11:51:47 AM)
Dearest Naked... I know other entities exist other than human beings. I have seen different things - many different things that were not halucinations or drug induced. Personally, I think that people who claim money or profit for such experiences are either misusing a gift they are given, or liars. I don't go ghost hunting - but spiritually, I have had both experiences of the heavenly and the not so heavenly - and those that exist in between. Something that confuses me is that is people believe in Angels, why not Demons? They don't all have wings and horns you know...[;)] I have not seen bigfoot, but have experiences of the 'Beast of Bodmin'... lol... Does that count? Deja vu. Prophecy. Visions. Dark Arts. Healings. Speaking in Tongues. Astral Projection. Does this answer Your question? Peace and Love

UtopianRanger -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 11:53:00 AM)
quote: Just a question about UFOs : how is it the maps of ufo sightings show maximum densities in the USA, England, France, and northern Italy, where there is a very strong ET culture (for example Planet of the apes is a french book, and unfortunately the guru of the sect of the Raelians is from the southeast of France... not from another planet). It's quite strange that so few UFOs have been seen in Asia, much fewer than in the USA which are much smaller and ten times less populated. That's not necessarily true. Both Brazil and Mexico have been hotbeds for sightings / visitations. So has Japan. And there has been much written about this in the Soviet. I think when you talk about Asia tho... you need to remember that we're dealing with alot of totalitarian regimes, with a closed off society, so it's hard to disseminate information. - The Ranger

SadistDave -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 11:57:29 AM)
I see someone already posted a link to JREF, LOL. This one really puzzles me though... quote: I do believe in the supernatural and I stay away from it. As a Christian it's against the rules to go searching out anything having to do with ghost or paranormal activity. Plus, seeing a ghost would freak me out! WTF? Aside from the fact that actually finding God would be the Big Kahuna of all supernatural encounters, there's also the established Christian dogma that Jesus walked the Earth after his death. Ie: he was a ghost... undead... George Romero's wet dream... How is involving yourself in a religion that says you need to have a personal relationship with a dead guy not seeking out the paranormal? Indeed, didn't JC even say that the if someone believed in the power of God, that they could move mountains and perform other feats of supernatural origin like exorcism and faith healing? So, I'm mighty confused by that statement. Seems to me that as a Christian cult member, it's your duty to seek out the supernatural and involve yourself in the paranormal for the glory of your god. -SD-

frenchpet -> RE: Paranormal (10/25/2005 11:58:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet So I've already posted my thoughts on ghost. Now there's BigFoot and other so called monsters. I myself will not dispute nor aggree to the existance to Big Foot nor Lock Ness. About ten years ago someone admitted he had invented the monster of the Loch (not Lock) Ness.

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