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Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 12:39:14 PM   
xanderzzz


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I met my sub online. One of our bonding conversations and several later fun conversations were discussing all the unrealistic profiles we have seen both for this lifestyle and vanilla personal sites.

I am not just talking about the blatant ones like fifty year old balding overweight male looking only for slim woman in their early twenties, or the thirty-five year old divorced female with three young children looking for a man 35-45 without any children and never married. I am talking more along the lines of the profiles like “I expect my Dom to be able to read my mind at all times” then list 10+ flowery characteristics that Mother Teresa could not match or Dom’s who make list and demands that only a futuristic robot could do with no thought of the other persons needs and desires.

To get to my question, I was reading the message board this morning and came across a reply that stated she stops all communication at the very first sign of something. This something to me was basically all human beings have and will eventually show. This started to make me think and was sad to think that something like this would prevent more communication.

For people who are online now or before looking for your Dom or sub do you feel that your standards are much higher than they would be if you looking in person and why. I am not talking about jumping into a relationship but in terms of initial contact or conversations.
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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 12:43:03 PM   
JustaTop


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I live in reality far too much to have unrealistic expectations.

I don't even read profiles here. I find that when you pursue with too much desperation,you never find what you want. If you set the bar too high,you live in a state of masochism-too low,and you bed with pigs.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 12:44:14 PM   
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My expectations are about the same, but then I never actively seek for relationships.

Reality has a way of thinning the crowd for you. Life will show each person soon enough whether their expectations will bear fruit.

Edited to add: And then they will come and post a thread on the board complaining about the emails they are/are not getting.

< Message edited by EmeraldSlave2 -- 10/24/2005 12:45:06 PM >

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 12:48:08 PM   
Kasia


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I think my standards are just the same online as they are in RL. And I act pretty much the same.
I met my husband online and we have been happily married 4 years now. And he is considered as being "hard to handle personality" by many people and have 2 ex wives who simply run away from him after couple of months.
So I am probably not competent to discuss this matter - my standards are a bit strange.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 2:18:17 PM   
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I don't think my standards are any difference online or in person. I think the only difference being online makes is that we have some of those deeply intimate conversations much sooner. It's brought out right in the begining what each is looking for long term then when the time comes to being face to face you expect all your conversations to become reality. It doesn't work that way though. I'm realizing now that although I thought living with my Dom would move our relationship forward, it has in some ways inched it backwards. Not in a bad way of course. I love him with all my heart and still wait anxiously for our many conversations to become our reality, but now we have to put that side on hold and get to know eachother in a new way. Maybe this isn't answering your question exactly, but this is what it made me think of. My expectations are the same, just the path there is different.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 2:21:33 PM   
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quote:


I am not just talking about the blatant ones like fifty year old balding overweight male looking only for slim woman in their early twenties, or the thirty-five year old divorced female with three young children looking for a man 35-45 without any children and never married.


Unrealsitic perhaps, however I'll bet more than one unrealsitic realtionship along those lines has happened. At least they are saying what they want. It may take decades for the right one to come along. I don't know about them, but I am willing to wait. When I figured out what I wanted to make a relationship work for me, I'll be honest I thought I was going to my grave alone and would have. Now all I need to do is find my second victim :-)

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I am talking more along the lines of the profiles like “I expect my Dom to be able to read my mind at all times”


Ok, maybe they'll be waiting longer than decades ;-)

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then list 10+ flowery characteristics that Mother Teresa could not match or Dom’s who make list and demands that only a futuristic robot could do with no thought of the other persons needs and desires.


Ok, maybe a few lifetimes.

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To get to my question, I was reading the message board this morning and came across a reply that stated she stops all communication at the very first sign of something. This something to me was basically all human beings have and will eventually show. This started to make me think and was sad to think that something like this would prevent more communication.


She's going to be without then.

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For people who are online now or before looking for your Dom or sub do you feel that your standards are much higher than they would be if you looking in person and why. I am not talking about jumping into a relationship but in terms of initial contact or conversations.


My expectations are the same on or offline. I don't know how they could be different. Obviously the interactions are going to be different - face to face conversation vs. typing messages is apples and oranges - I still want the same end result.

D (owner of j)



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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 6:39:25 PM   
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I think my expectations are the same for people, realtime or otherwise. I expect honesty, courtesy, and all those other useful qualities.

I'm not a person who actively seeks relationships from online contacts, but I have been lucky to have met many good friends (realtime friends) from initial online meetings.

I LAUGH out loud at some of the profiles I see----I don't generally seek out profiles, but you know how there is always one that pops up at logon? Hilarious! And sometimes alarming----that hairy guy in the speedo really should get someone else to take his pics......

I find it really hard to believe that there are women out there who actually respond to the guys who are searching for their perfect housecleaning fembot who can simultaneously give blow jobs and iron shirts, but it's a world of wonders.

Ms Francine

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/24/2005 8:05:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

My expectations are about the same, but then I never actively seek for relationships.

Reality has a way of thinning the crowd for you. Life will show each person soon enough whether their expectations will bear fruit.

Edited to add: And then they will come and post a thread on the board complaining about the emails they are/are not getting.

As I totally agree with what EmeraldSlave2 has said.. I will say no more...

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 1:45:22 AM   
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Ok, I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that I think I do react differently online to in person. Not in what I'm looking for, or how I present myself as much as how I react to the other person.

When you're being approached or chatting to so many people and if you're just chatting (or responding to emails) and you haven't invested much in the 'relationship', then I find it's very easy to just stop at the first sign that you may not like the other person, whereas for people I meet at clubs or through real life contacts I find I'm more likely to overlook an irritant or try to get to the bottom of it. After all, these real life people I'm more likely to meet again even if we don't hit it off and for those online - well there's plenty more waiting to send me a message or email.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 2:44:37 AM   
IronBear


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I have one set of standards and one code of conduct. neither are subject to change. For me they are absolutes.

My standars are:

1. What I expect of my self in any given situation.

2. How I expect others to treat my home and family.

3. What I expect from any one looking at a House of Iron Bear Collar.

My Codes: Define how I will act and live my life.

< Message edited by IronBear -- 10/25/2005 2:45:26 AM >


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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 3:54:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xanderzzz

I met my sub online. One of our bonding conversations and several later fun conversations were discussing all the unrealistic profiles we have seen both for this lifestyle and vanilla personal sites.

I am not just talking about the blatant ones like fifty year old balding overweight male looking only for slim woman in their early twenties, or the thirty-five year old divorced female with three young children looking for a man 35-45 without any children and never married. I am talking more along the lines of the profiles like “I expect my Dom to be able to read my mind at all times” then list 10+ flowery characteristics that Mother Teresa could not match or Dom’s who make list and demands that only a futuristic robot could do with no thought of the other persons needs and desires.

To get to my question, I was reading the message board this morning and came across a reply that stated she stops all communication at the very first sign of something. This something to me was basically all human beings have and will eventually show. This started to make me think and was sad to think that something like this would prevent more communication.

For people who are online now or before looking for your Dom or sub do you feel that your standards are much higher than they would be if you looking in person and why. I am not talking about jumping into a relationship but in terms of initial contact or conversations.



sounds like something i have said recently.........weakness as i define it........i
e lack of authority to me........
and stop talking as in as potential partner---not in as a friend---------
why waste his time/or mine or get his hopes up?
i believe honesty is the best policy,don't you?

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 4:01:04 AM   
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PS go read the entire sentance/thought-

i also stated i did not mean that they weren't empathetic or cried when their moms died----------to me that isnt weakness!!!

so yes all will show that at sometime in their lives,lolol,,,,,,,,, my how you did misconstrue

their authority over me.period end of story--such a simple thing........shakes head as she goes for my coffee

have a good day and please dont presume to know what was going on in the op's head

just like i'll feel foolish ,if u didnt mean my post , but w/ the kick in the gut i took when reading, i'ld say u ment mine,lol.l

utopia my rear











quote:

ORIGINAL: xanderzzz

I met my sub online. One of our bonding conversations and several later fun conversations were discussing all the unrealistic profiles we have seen both for this lifestyle and vanilla personal sites.

I am not just talking about the blatant ones like fifty year old balding overweight male looking only for slim woman in their early twenties, or the thirty-five year old divorced female with three young children looking for a man 35-45 without any children and never married. I am talking more along the lines of the profiles like “I expect my Dom to be able to read my mind at all times” then list 10+ flowery characteristics that Mother Teresa could not match or Dom’s who make list and demands that only a futuristic robot could do with no thought of the other persons needs and desires.

To get to my question, I was reading the message board this morning and came across a reply that stated she stops all communication at the very first sign of something. This something to me was basically all human beings have and will eventually show. This started to make me think and was sad to think that something like this would prevent more communication.

For people who are online now or before looking for your Dom or sub do you feel that your standards are much higher than they would be if you looking in person and why. I am not talking about jumping into a relationship but in terms of initial contact or conversations.



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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 4:04:26 AM   
fyreredsub


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ditto...
and when the mail gets annoying and i get tired of politely saying thanks for writing, i'll shut off profile for a bit

not really looking here b/c i dont think i have the time for r/t and the o/l thing well quite frankly isnt for me

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 5:03:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xanderzzz

I met my sub online. One of our bonding conversations and several later fun conversations were discussing all the unrealistic profiles we have seen both for this lifestyle and vanilla personal sites.


It's the online syndrome...

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 6:38:19 AM   
Kasia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: frenchpet
It's the online syndrome...

One more syndrome? This board is starting to sound like Medical Encyclopedia.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 6:40:33 AM   
xanderzzz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

PS go read the entire sentance/thought-

i also stated i did not mean that they weren't empathetic or cried when their moms died----------to me that isnt weakness!!!

so yes all will show that at sometime in their lives,lolol,,,,,,,,, my how you did misconstrue

their authority over me.period end of story--such a simple thing........shakes head as she goes for my coffee

have a good day and please dont presume to know what was going on in the op's head

just like i'll feel foolish ,if u didnt mean my post , but w/ the kick in the gut i took when reading, i'ld say u ment mine,lol.l

utopia my rear



Well lets see...

1) I went back and found the post I was refering to. It was not you!
2) It was a small part of the post.
3) The post was for a general question how everybody treats online comunication. Not "look how crazy this woman is".

There was no rant in the post. No calling out someone. No wondering why women are not swamping me with messages. Just an observation and asking for any input.

Get over yourself and do not assume.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 6:43:49 AM   
IronBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kasia


quote:

ORIGINAL: frenchpet
It's the online syndrome...

One more syndrome? This board is starting to sound like Medical Encyclopedia.


I'm busting a gut laughing. I just had a vision of what the board might be like if Freud was a member. He'd have a field day.

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 8:09:25 AM   
fyreredsub


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gee i didnt know lolol meant rants,hmmmmmmmmmm, and please DO reread dear, i did say if u meant mine in both posts ,thanks........


quote:

ORIGINAL: xanderzzz

quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

PS go read the entire sentance/thought-

i also stated i did not mean that they weren't empathetic or cried when their moms died----------to me that isnt weakness!!!

so yes all will show that at sometime in their lives,lolol,,,,,,,,, my how you did misconstrue

their authority over me.period end of story--such a simple thing........shakes head as she goes for my coffee

have a good day and please dont presume to know what was going on in the op's head

just like i'll feel foolish ,if u didnt mean my post , but w/ the kick in the gut i took when reading, i'ld say u ment mine,lol.l

utopia my rear



Well lets see...

1) I went back and found the post I was refering to. It was not you!
2) It was a small part of the post.
3) The post was for a general question how everybody treats online comunication. Not "look how crazy this woman is".

There was no rant in the post. No calling out someone. No wondering why women are not swamping me with messages. Just an observation and asking for any input.

Get over yourself and do not assume.




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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 8:14:52 AM   
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my bad-lol, reading it one too many times w/out enuff java

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RE: Online Utopia - 10/25/2005 9:47:23 AM   
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Thanks fyreredsub for taking another look and understanding. When posting on any message board I try not to call out people and even thought about editing the post to take out the "she" part.

To be wrongfully accused is never fun and doubly weird when it is not from the person I was even vagely refering to.




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