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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 5/31/2008 10:07:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MladyHathor


I don't have to be open minded, I'm the Dominant!

Oh my lol, I thought the days of people really thinking the dom was more than there to serve the subs needs to be dominated were long gone.  Apparently I should keep my eyes peeled for barbarians.




Nope not barbarians. The idea that somehow the D-type is there for the s-type came about because of the heterosexual community (specifically straight s-type females and pansy would be straight D-type males who don't know how to put the bitches in their place) and their idea of "submission is a gift. It's not. S-types are here for the D-type. Not the other way around. End of story.

Not Done with rant yet...



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ORIGINAL: Stephann

I'd suggest that you might have more luck encountering women open to playing the cuckhold fantasy amongst swingers than kink folk.  I find there's a strong bias against men participating in actual sex amongst the heterosexual BDSM community.  Not a complaint (for or against) just an observation.  Scenes in a dungeon where women are playing are usually hot; the moment a penis appears (in any state other than flaccid and beaten) there tends to be a strong reaction against.

Just sayin.

Stephan


 
He's right. It's also another product of the het community and the idea that this isn't about sex.... That's just not true. I'ma dyke...I'm thrilled when someone has the balls to use their dick the way it was meant to be used at a dungeon...Just as long as no one is trying to use it with me.
 
I don't have a problem with the het community within BDSM...I'm just sayin these ideas happened/changed when more straight people got involved. Now go thank the closest gay leatherman to you for paving the way.
 
End of Rant
 
As a female s-type who's monogamous serving a Poly Domme, I don't think that we would end up with a cuckolding situation in it's original sense. Sure we could call it cuckolding if we wanted to, however, I'm still going to get to have sex with Her.  And I'm okay with that...so long as they are an individual of character or not gonna stick around. (They can decidedly not have good character if they're Mr.RightNow)
 
Does this mean I'm the most well adjusted and prepared for this type of situation? No in fact I'm not. However, I am willing to grow and push myself beyond my comfort zone for Her. THAT's what s-types are SUPPOSED to do.
 
And yes I said it. I just told people what they're supposed to do.
 
It's your kink dude. Not everybody is into it. Not everybody is even okay with it. Don't bitch if you can't find who ya want to do what ya want...broaden your requirements and cast a wider net if you're unhappy about being alone.
 
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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 5/31/2008 10:19:54 AM   
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For those who dont know so much about cuckolding, here is a few lines to give you an idea about this activity, however it can vary greatly from coule to couple ( but you will get the general idea ;)

Cuckolding for many is the ultimate in submission and "helplessness"once the relationship has been agreed upon by both parties, but still it is often wise to use a "safeword" in the beginning.

The cuckolding relationship gives the dominant party her kick of being in total control, and has the power to be VERY unreasonable etc..and at the same time gives the submissive a feeling of having no control at all,  and an intense feeling of being "taken advantage of".
I have met many where this type of relationship works fantastic for both parties and would not consider any other way to live, and I have met others that have tried and failed due to jealousy and "changing of the rules in the middle of the game".
Many couples prefer the lover to be black, but this is not always the case.

Rules must be set out and agreed upon and STRICTLY followed by both parties, especially in the beginning so that both of you find your roles and get comfortable with it.
Often you will find that the more you do it, the easier and more "normal" it will become, but as I said before, the jealousy, fear and low esteem that it can bring will be too much for some people.

You should be able to have a "time out" period from a cuckolding relationship every now and again, so that you can sit and talk about things to make sure you are both still ok with everything so that it does not damage your otherwise loving relationship.

*Cuckolding often includes ( but not always ) activities such as...

*Forced feminization
( to make the husband feel even less worthy and unmanly for his wife, therefore her need to take a "real man" lover).

*Orgasm denial ( the wife has sex and multiple orgasms with her lover on a regular basis, but her hubby is not allowed orgasm for long periods of time).

*Chastity using chastity devices such as the curve or cb3000 etc on her husband..  to make pleasure for the sub impossible or at least very difficult, yet she enjoys as much pleasure and satisfaction as she desires.

*Forced Orgasms This is often done if the wife wishes to allow release for her husband at some point, although it is often done in humiliating or "unusual" ways to "prove his place" in the relationship. The sub hubby may be made to wank himself over his wives feet when she returns from her date, or into a bowl or cup, or container...all to be used against him in some wicked way.

*Creampies  This is where the wife forces her husband to lick out of her another mans "cum". It is best done if the husband is present while his wife is being "unfaithful", as often there is little "mess" left by the time she returns home after her date if she is out alone.

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 5/31/2008 10:31:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

quote:

ORIGINAL: MladyHathor


I don't have to be open minded, I'm the Dominant!

Oh my lol, I thought the days of people really thinking the dom was more than there to serve the subs needs to be dominated were long gone.  Apparently I should keep my eyes peeled for barbarians.




Nope not barbarians. The idea that somehow the D-type is there for the s-type came about because of the heterosexual community (specifically straight s-type females and pansy would be straight D-type males who don't know how to put the bitches in their place) and their idea of "submission is a gift. It's not. S-types are here for the D-type. Not the other way around. End of story.

Not Done with rant yet...



quote:

ORIGINAL: Stephann

I'd suggest that you might have more luck encountering women open to playing the cuckhold fantasy amongst swingers than kink folk.  I find there's a strong bias against men participating in actual sex amongst the heterosexual BDSM community.  Not a complaint (for or against) just an observation.  Scenes in a dungeon where women are playing are usually hot; the moment a penis appears (in any state other than flaccid and beaten) there tends to be a strong reaction against.

Just sayin.

Stephan


 
He's right. It's also another product of the het community and the idea that this isn't about sex.... That's just not true. I'ma dyke...I'm thrilled when someone has the balls to use their dick the way it was meant to be used at a dungeon...Just as long as no one is trying to use it with me.
 
I don't have a problem with the het community within BDSM...I'm just sayin these ideas happened/changed when more straight people got involved. Now go thank the closest gay leatherman to you for paving the way.
 
End of Rant
 
As a female s-type who's monogamous serving a Poly Domme, I don't think that we would end up with a cuckolding situation in it's original sense. Sure we could call it cuckolding if we wanted to, however, I'm still going to get to have sex with Her.  And I'm okay with that...so long as they are an individual of character or not gonna stick around. (They can decidedly not have good character if they're Mr.RightNow)
 
Does this mean I'm the most well adjusted and prepared for this type of situation? No in fact I'm not. However, I am willing to grow and push myself beyond my comfort zone for Her. THAT's what s-types are SUPPOSED to do.
 
And yes I said it. I just told people what they're supposed to do.
 
It's your kink dude. Not everybody is into it. Not everybody is even okay with it. Don't bitch if you can't find who ya want to do what ya want...broaden your requirements and cast a wider net if you're unhappy about being alone.
 
Says the boi on saturday afternoon in the rain.
 


I've read quite a few of your posts and damn, boi... you rock!  Right on!  Hey, btw, could I get some of your input in my thread re. cuckqueaning in the poly group?-- Bitch

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 5/31/2008 10:50:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MastersBitch96
I've read quite a few of your posts and damn, boi... you rock!  Right on!  Hey, btw, could I get some of your input in my thread re. cuckqueaning in the poly group?-- Bitch


lol...While I may not be listed in the "Ask a Mistress" thread "The Perfect sub"...I'm pretty much "on"....then again...I don't wear lunch meat and I never claim to be submissive.

And sure I'll check it out :)

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/3/2008 4:03:28 PM   
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Well done ! You are well informed on this subject and may I ad,… very young and beautiful as well. Cuckolding is a very festinating subject with me. It is the ultimate form of Domme control over Her sub/slave. It is more festinating when it is a Domme controlled scene.
quote:

ORIGINAL: MatinaNemesis

For those who dont know so much about cuckolding, here is a few lines to give you an idea about this activity, however it can vary greatly from coule to couple ( but you will get the general idea ;)

Cuckolding for many is the ultimate in submission and "helplessness"once the relationship has been agreed upon by both parties, but still it is often wise to use a "safeword" in the beginning.

The cuckolding relationship gives the dominant party her kick of being in total control, and has the power to be VERY unreasonable etc..and at the same time gives the submissive a feeling of having no control at all,  and an intense feeling of being "taken advantage of".
I have met many where this type of relationship works fantastic for both parties and would not consider any other way to live, and I have met others that have tried and failed due to jealousy and "changing of the rules in the middle of the game".
Many couples prefer the lover to be black, but this is not always the case.

Rules must be set out and agreed upon and STRICTLY followed by both parties, especially in the beginning so that both of you find your roles and get comfortable with it.
Often you will find that the more you do it, the easier and more "normal" it will become, but as I said before, the jealousy, fear and low esteem that it can bring will be too much for some people.

You should be able to have a "time out" period from a cuckolding relationship every now and again, so that you can sit and talk about things to make sure you are both still ok with everything so that it does not damage your otherwise loving relationship.

*Cuckolding often includes ( but not always ) activities such as...

*Forced feminization
( to make the husband feel even less worthy and unmanly for his wife, therefore her need to take a "real man" lover).

*Orgasm denial ( the wife has sex and multiple orgasms with her lover on a regular basis, but her hubby is not allowed orgasm for long periods of time).

*Chastity using chastity devices such as the curve or cb3000 etc on her husband..  to make pleasure for the sub impossible or at least very difficult, yet she enjoys as much pleasure and satisfaction as she desires.

*Forced Orgasms This is often done if the wife wishes to allow release for her husband at some point, although it is often done in humiliating or "unusual" ways to "prove his place" in the relationship. The sub hubby may be made to wank himself over his wives feet when she returns from her date, or into a bowl or cup, or container...all to be used against him in some wicked way.

*Creampies  This is where the wife forces her husband to lick out of her another mans "cum". It is best done if the husband is present while his wife is being "unfaithful", as often there is little "mess" left by the time she returns home after her date if she is out alone.


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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/3/2008 10:14:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Griswold

(I'm just wondering?)

Seems like a complete win/win to me



i'm confused; i thought cuckolding was having a sexual relationship with a female while the male is aware or even watches.  How would a Domme get cuckolded?
 
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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/3/2008 11:20:30 PM   
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I think you're confusing the players a bit, pinksugarsub.  Let's recap.

The Dominant woman is the central feature in this scenerio.

The cuckhold is usually her primary partner.

The bull, is generally another male the Dominant woman has sex with, in many cases to humiliate the cuck.

There are a lot of ways to play this little game.  As I said, many times, humiliation is used or emotional distress to the cuck.  A lot of verbal play can go into this.  Sometimes, the cuck can be forced to help the Domme dress for her "date" (the Bull), all the while thinking of what the Bull will be doing with her, as he helps her slip into her lingerie.  She will often talk about how the Bull drives her wild sexually, how she knows the Bull will make her orgasm over and over, how she's getting wet just thinking about it, etc., etc.  For fun, she may throw in how the Bull is so much better at pleasing her than the cuck.  (Mind you know.  This is still the getting ready for the date phase.  The cuck has to endure all of this.)

Not all cucks participate at the "dates" themselves.  Sometimes, they are left home to think about what the Domme is doing with the Bull, given chores, or some type of activity that has him focus on the sexual activity that he is not permitted to partake in.  Usually, it takes a while to build a cuck relationship enough to bring him along.  (Have to be careful with this, like many other types of humiliation.)

When the Domme comes home from the "date", the cuck is made to listen about the things the Bull did to her while she was away.  He listens to all of the details and might get some physical evidence.  He might have to do her laundry, take care of those nasty 'stains', or whatever else works for the people involved.

(Why do I suddenly feel like I'm writing porn?)

Anyway, other people's milage may vary.


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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/5/2008 4:22:19 AM   
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You summed it up well, short and sweet. One has to remember in cuckolding Their cuck/sub/slave, men are like apples; in that, they can burse easily.
quote]ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think you're confusing the players a bit, pinksugarsub.  Let's recap.

The Dominant woman is the central feature in this scenerio.

The cuckhold is usually her primary partner.

The bull, is generally another male the Dominant woman has sex with, in many cases to humiliate the cuck.

There are a lot of ways to play this little game.  As I said, many times, humiliation is used or emotional distress to the cuck.  A lot of verbal play can go into this.  Sometimes, the cuck can be forced to help the Domme dress for her "date" (the Bull), all the while thinking of what the Bull will be doing with her, as he helps her slip into her lingerie.  She will often talk about how the Bull drives her wild sexually, how she knows the Bull will make her orgasm over and over, how she's getting wet just thinking about it, etc., etc.  For fun, she may throw in how the Bull is so much better at pleasing her than the cuck.  (Mind you know.  This is still the getting ready for the date phase.  The cuck has to endure all of this.)

Not all cucks participate at the "dates" themselves.  Sometimes, they are left home to think about what the Domme is doing with the Bull, given chores, or some type of activity that has him focus on the sexual activity that he is not permitted to partake in.  Usually, it takes a while to build a cuck relationship enough to bring him along.  (Have to be careful with this, like many other types of humiliation.)

When the Domme comes home from the "date", the cuck is made to listen about the things the Bull did to her while she was away.  He listens to all of the details and might get some physical evidence.  He might have to do her laundry, take care of those nasty 'stains', or whatever else works for the people involved.

(Why do I suddenly feel like I'm writing porn?)

Anyway, other people's milage may vary.

[/quote]

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/5/2008 5:06:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think you're confusing the players a bit, pinksugarsub.  Let's recap.

The Dominant woman is the central feature in this scenerio.

The cuckhold is usually her primary partner.

The bull, is generally another male the Dominant woman has sex with, in many cases to humiliate the cuck.

There are a lot of ways to play this little game.  As I said, many times, humiliation is used or emotional distress to the cuck.  A lot of verbal play can go into this.  Sometimes, the cuck can be forced to help the Domme dress for her "date" (the Bull), all the while thinking of what the Bull will be doing with her, as he helps her slip into her lingerie.  She will often talk about how the Bull drives her wild sexually, how she knows the Bull will make her orgasm over and over, how she's getting wet just thinking about it, etc., etc.  For fun, she may throw in how the Bull is so much better at pleasing her than the cuck.  (Mind you know.  This is still the getting ready for the date phase.  The cuck has to endure all of this.)

Not all cucks participate at the "dates" themselves.  Sometimes, they are left home to think about what the Domme is doing with the Bull, given chores, or some type of activity that has him focus on the sexual activity that he is not permitted to partake in.  Usually, it takes a while to build a cuck relationship enough to bring him along.  (Have to be careful with this, like many other types of humiliation.)

When the Domme comes home from the "date", the cuck is made to listen about the things the Bull did to her while she was away.  He listens to all of the details and might get some physical evidence.  He might have to do her laundry, take care of those nasty 'stains', or whatever else works for the people involved.



(Fabulous :) )

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/5/2008 7:10:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Griswold

(I'm just wondering?)

Seems like a complete win/win to me



They are hiding in the same place as all the women do from the many of men's desires that do nothing for them. It's easy to sit and think up something that turns you on. Then you can go online and find plenty of evidence of other men sharing that same fantasy. And because there is a male desire, there will be a product, whether it is porn or professional services or a T-shirt. But in real life, in the flesh? I must stop typing now to laugh loudly. OK, I am back. You could list all of the things women want and all of the things men want, and then if your pen ran out of ink you could still list those items the two lists had in common, because there isn't one. The basis for relationships is great need with no hope of reciprocation. That is, men and women think they need each other. They are duped into believeing this because they extrapolate from basic sexual instinct. It clouds their thinking. So on top of just wanting to fuck, they make up a whole world of ideas about what all it is or should be, to have relationships. Pretty much all of it is fantasy expressing the need of the person, without having anything at all to do with their counterpart, who is similarly wrapped up in their own fantasy. When they manage to stand each other they can find some way to handle each other's fantasies. Then they are pyschologically ready to fuck, which is what the whole thing was about in the first place. Feel free to refer to this explanation for any thread where someone asks of the opposite sex where are the ones who like this or that. They exist in your imagination as the perfect answer to your prayers.

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/6/2008 5:54:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aliasmoniker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Griswold

(I'm just wondering?)

Seems like a complete win/win to me



They are hiding in the same place as all the women do from the many of men's desires that do nothing for them. It's easy to sit and think up something that turns you on. Then you can go online and find plenty of evidence of other men sharing that same fantasy. And because there is a male desire, there will be a product, whether it is porn or professional services or a T-shirt. But in real life, in the flesh? I must stop typing now to laugh loudly. OK, I am back. You could list all of the things women want and all of the things men want, and then if your pen ran out of ink you could still list those items the two lists had in common, because there isn't one. The basis for relationships is great need with no hope of reciprocation. That is, men and women think they need each other. They are duped into believeing this because they extrapolate from basic sexual instinct. It clouds their thinking. So on top of just wanting to fuck, they make up a whole world of ideas about what all it is or should be, to have relationships. Pretty much all of it is fantasy expressing the need of the person, without having anything at all to do with their counterpart, who is similarly wrapped up in their own fantasy. When they manage to stand each other they can find some way to handle each other's fantasies. Then they are pyschologically ready to fuck, which is what the whole thing was about in the first place. Feel free to refer to this explanation for any thread where someone asks of the opposite sex where are the ones who like this or that. They exist in your imagination as the perfect answer to your prayers.



Okay....while that was a big humongous catagoric quasifuck, all wrapped up in a whole bunch of anti sentence structure....I can live with that.

You actually made some killer points, albeit encumbered with a total incapacity to provide sentences and paragraphs.

In actuality, while you cloaked your points with an entire inability to well present your thoughts on both sides....you clearly did so with passion. I respect that.

Now, please...try to do so with connective thought.

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/7/2008 5:13:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Griswold

(Fabulous :) )


Glad you liked it.


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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/8/2008 2:25:51 PM   
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I wonder if some of the women who want this kind of relationship are actually insecure and they need to feel like a male will want them even if he is not having sex with them.
There seems to be no basis for why a male would persue this type of relationship. Most social relationships are symbiotic and the male in this relationship is not benefiting at all.
How does the woman win from this relationship? The only way this is a win for her is if her cuck provides her with extra income or performs services for her, unless she just likes attention.

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/8/2008 2:54:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

I wonder if some of the women who want this kind of relationship are actually insecure and they need to feel like a male will want them even if he is not having sex with them.
There seems to be no basis for why a male would persue this type of relationship. Most social relationships are symbiotic and the male in this relationship is not benefiting at all.
How does the woman win from this relationship? The only way this is a win for her is if her cuck provides her with extra income or performs services for her, unless she just likes attention.

This kind of thing does seem like a loser for the cuck. The dom gets to have sexual pleasure, but he doesn't. I doubt many guys could live with long. I have always been skeptical that there are men who would wear chasisty belts.

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/8/2008 5:11:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

I wonder if some of the women who want this kind of relationship are actually insecure and they need to feel like a male will want them even if he is not having sex with them.  (Surely you're kidding me).
There seems to be no basis for why a male would persue ("Pursue") this type of relationship. Most social relationships are symbiotic and the male in this relationship is not benefiting at all.  (Au Contraire Mes Amis)
How does the woman win from this relationship?  (Always). The only way this is a win for her is if her cuck provides her with extra income or performs services for her, unless she just likes attention.

Ahhhh...thee of so little inform....

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RE: Cuckold; Where are all the Dommes that want this? - 6/8/2008 5:12:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: azjojoba

quote:

ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

I wonder if some of the women who want this kind of relationship are actually insecure and they need to feel like a male will want them even if he is not having sex with them.
There seems to be no basis for why a male would persue this type of relationship. Most social relationships are symbiotic and the male in this relationship is not benefiting at all.
How does the woman win from this relationship? The only way this is a win for her is if her cuck provides her with extra income or performs services for her, unless she just likes attention.

This kind of thing does seem like a loser for the cuck. The dom gets to have sexual pleasure, but he doesn't. I doubt many guys could live with long. I have always been skeptical that there are men who would wear chasisty belts.



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