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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 9:46:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		You punched her? For something she said that you considered stupid? In public?

This is something you are proud of?



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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 10:08:35 AM   
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And this is something that you're proud of doing? I don't know what "her junk" actually is, but it sounds a bit abusive to me to land someone on their knees with a punch.


she consented to this relationship and she understood what entering it meant. Not abuse. A court of law would see it otherwise.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 12:44:25 PM   
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I've gotten email from someone saying he was on his knees and respectfully whispering a desire to be allowed to speak with me (while expressing no desire to read my profile, lol).
Yes they say it online at least. M


I think that I got the same email. Another was in his panties waiting to speak with me then called me a cow when I didn't replay in his time...I use the filters to their fullest & this was in the bulk folder read almost a week after the fact.
Oh my, it was the same loser! He got terribly abusive when in my email I told him to stop Bullshitting me, and actually read/respond to my profile.
I reported him, at specific account no longer exists. M

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 12:49:59 PM   
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No but I have this overwhelming desire to tell you about time (in bandcamp ;-) when my slave said something really stupid and I turned around and punched her in her junk and dropped her. she landed on her knees :-) Does that count?

D (owner of j)
I would object to something like this being done in front of me.
It's one thing to have whatever type of relationship between you and your property, but something like this in public would constitute physical abuse, and I would be uncomfortable to the point of saying something, and any man beside me would absolutely need to speak up or lose a significant amount of respect from me (I know my brothers and late father wouldn't stand by watch you do that). M

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 2:02:54 PM   
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You punched her? For something she said that you considered stupid? In public?



Yes. Yes (she had been given instruction in this area multiple times previous). Yes. Noone else was around.

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This is something you are proud of?


I never claimed pride. I claimed I did it.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 2:34:30 PM   
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No but I have this overwhelming desire to tell you about time (in bandcamp ;-) when my slave said something really stupid and I turned around and punched her in her junk and dropped her. she landed on her knees :-) Does that count?

D (owner of j)
I would object to something like this being done in front of me.
It's one thing to have whatever type of relationship between you and your property, but something like this in public would constitute physical abuse, and I would be uncomfortable to the point of saying something, and any man beside me would absolutely need to speak up or lose a significant amount of respect from me (I know my brothers and late father wouldn't stand by watch you do that). M
Ditto. As a matter of fact, something like this happened almost next to me, one night, I didn't exactly stand by. I ain't big but know how to punch... a man. But when I was around five, I learnt that a man shouldn't hit a woman. I guess I didn't forget everything I was taught. Different education, or simply... education ? My only regret is that I only broke his nose, I wish I had broken him both arms.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 2:42:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		All right folks here's the scoop.

It's my relationship. she is my slave, she was well aware of what she was getting into when we started this thing, and frankly I can do that or worse any time I want whether she is doing something I experssely forbid, gave instruction on, or not. I get to do what I want with my property, whether you approve or not.

Seeing as how I don't have her caged 24 hours a day she could have gone to the police and pressed charges. she didn't and she is still with me (hmm maybe this works for her too?).

Fine you don't like it. Shall I start talking about all the things I don't like about your posts? ;-)

My last post on the subject.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 2:51:10 PM   
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All right folks here's the scoop.

It's my relationship. she is my slave, she was well aware of what she was getting into when we started this thing, and frankly I can do that or worse any time I want whether she is doing something I experssely forbid, gave instruction on, or not. I get to do what I want with my property, whether you approve or not.

Whether you approve or not, I just said what I did and what I would probably have done a second time, to you, if I had been there. That's my relationship with mankind.
Edited to add : obviousy, I'm talking about something happening in public...

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 4:40:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ive not been here long ... only a few days in fact and have already had it said to me more times than i can count!!!! Is it because I'm a sub i should be a braindead doormat that that does everything a so - called Dom says?

I think not... You come in my space with that kind of remark and You are likely to get a reply a long the lines of "when Ya get Ya head out Ya ass etc etc .... "

I might be a sub but i have feelings, and a mind of my own that I am not afraid to use it!!

To me submission is about respect and trust between people who know each other and have their own framework of rules and limits. After all it is me who chooses to submit to You and that means something in my book!!!

ok rant over !!! *ges off soapbox and sits quietly in corner*

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 5:24:47 PM   
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All right folks here's the scoop.

It's my relationship. she is my slave, she was well aware of what she was getting into when we started this thing, and frankly I can do that or worse any time I want whether she is doing something I experssely forbid, gave instruction on, or not. I get to do what I want with my property, whether you approve or not.

Seeing as how I don't have her caged 24 hours a day she could have gone to the police and pressed charges. she didn't and she is still with me (hmm maybe this works for her too?).

Fine you don't like it. Shall I start talking about all the things I don't like about your posts? ;-)

My last post on the subject.

D (owner of j)



Being the Master of a slave it is assumed that You indeed CAN do what ever You want, including worse that what You stated You did. And, as a slave, she is accepting.
Just because You CAN do something, and no one calls the cops doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.

That's the difference as i see it.

Trusting enough to become slave means (at least to me) trusting him enough to know what is right.

If you give up all rights to someone, make sure you know what they are capable of.

It's not about whether or not any of us approves of what happens in your relationship.

I was shocked, as i'm sure many others were. I'm not easily shocked.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 6:05:27 PM   
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Seeing as how you have brought up different points than others I am going to post again.

Seeing as how I didn't address some of the other posts in more depth I am going to do that too after this one.

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Being the Master of a slave it is assumed that You indeed CAN do what ever You want, including worse that what You stated You did. And, as a slave, she is accepting.
Just because You CAN do something, and no one calls the cops doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.


It may not be the right thing to do for you. But let's think about it for a second - what is more dangerous a punch in the bits or a slap across the face. Hmm a slap across the face. Something that happens in many BDSM relationships; vanilla too on rare occasion. Ask your doctor if you disagree. I didn't punch her in the kidneys, I didn't punch her in the head, I punched her where no organs are and the chance of me breaking her pubic bone are pretty slim. It's not like I aimed, wound up and hauled off as hard as I could.

Who decides what is right? You apparently and apparently you'd like to decide for me as well as you. I posted this comment to a BDSM board. Not www.vanilla.com.

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Trusting enough to become slave means (at least to me) trusting him enough to know what is right.


Who decides what is right? You apparently and apparently you'd like to decide for me as well as you.

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If you give up all rights to someone, make sure you know what they are capable of.


Absolutely. I had her research a number of things before she got into this relationship. I did my best to make her run and run far and fast. Again I say, as I did in another post, she was and is today well aware of what I am capable of.

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It's not about whether or not any of us approves of what happens in your relationship.


But it is. You said it's not right (not directly but by implication - and hey if you think I am right feel free to correct me on this). 'Right' is is approving. Who decides what is right? You apparently and apparently you'd like to decide for me as well as you.

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I was shocked, as i'm sure many others were. I'm not easily shocked.


I was shocked when I learned about a practice that some gay men (and I am sure it's not just them doing this) do. Which is this: They continually expand their urethra until it is large enough for their partner to have intercourse with.

That shocked me.

I didn't say to myself 'omg that isn't right I need to disapprove of them and warn all those subs and slaves out there about these freaks'. I said to myself 'wow that's like right out there. It's not my gig but hey if it floats your boat knock yourself out'.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 6:26:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

I would object to something like this being done in front of me.
It's one thing to have whatever type of relationship between you and your property, but something like this in public would constitute physical abuse, and I would be uncomfortable to the point of saying something, and any man beside me would absolutely need to speak up or lose a significant amount of respect from me (I know my brothers and late father wouldn't stand by watch you do that). M [


You may not have read it yet but I did post that noone else was around at the time, although it was a public place - although I am fairly certain any of my D/s friends would not have a problem with this as they know what my relationship with her is.

I should have included that information in my first post (which I have now done), although I still think a lot of replies to my post would still have happened.

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But when I was around five, I learnt that a man shouldn't hit a woman.


I learned that too. Here are a few of my thoughts on that statement:

1) I guess using a fist vs. a crop or tens unit or wartenberg or any of dozens of other implements makes it unacceptable. (Don't even begin to tell me that those things are not used in the BDSM community by men and women on other men and women - it even has it's own category - genital torture (this to be sure was a punishment but still fits into the category))
2) I guess because it was her bits vs. her buttocks it makes it unacceptable.
3) as I have posted in a response to another post is it safer to slap someone across the face or punch a woman (punching a man in the bits can lead to serious harm up to and including the removal of testicles - not the same for women) in the bits? Safer to punch her in her bits. Don't agree? Ask your doctor. Slapping across the face is a fairly frequent occurance in the BDSM community.
4) my parents told me a lot of stuff too. Then I did my own thinking on it and decided for myself. Guess what? I don't run around hitting random women in shopping malls and corner stores.

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I guess I didn't forget everything I was taught. Different education, or simply... education ?


Ah yes, please see my point 4 above.

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My only regret is that I only broke his nose, I wish I had broken him both arms.


I am assuming since you put this in here that you would do the same to me.

Assuming my assuption above is correct, the difference between you and me is that she consented to this relationship and everything that it entailed, and I did not consent to have you do violence to me. What does your education tell you about that? Before you reply you may want to think.

D (owner of j)


** edited to add frenchpet's name as I was replying to his quote that included him quoting BlkTallFullfig **


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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 7:11:49 PM   
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You may not have read it yet but I did post that noone else was around at the time
I did read that it was done in private, and that is why I left the rest alone. What you do with yourself and yours is none of my biz as I think consenting adults can and should have a right to choose how they live or die.
You weren't clear on where is was done in your first post and that is why I said how'd I'd feel if it were done in my presence.
Where are one's "bits" lol I've been wondering? M

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 8:03:27 PM   
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Has anyone ever really said this, or it is just a mythical saying used as an example?



mmmmm, if i saved all my YIM archves i could show you how many times i saw it in writing.
ya right, like i will kneel in front of my puter to writing

but if i hear if from the voice that i serve... done.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 9:22:01 PM   
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Wolfie648;

I am not trying to decide what is right or wrong for you and yours.

This is a bdsm site, correct. and so i didn't freak out and throw around "abuse" and all that.

As i said, the idea of being punched for something that was said is shocking to me.

Yes, i understand where it was you hit her, and why.

There is a big difference between pain in a scene, and pain from being hit suddenly as a correction for a behavior.

This is a discussion forum. It's ok to reply and give opinions to posts.

I think i was careful to say that i was stating my opinion.. how i feel.

I do have opinions on what's right and what's not.

So do a lot of other people.

When you post on a site, others will give their opinions.


You had to know the original post would cause some controversy.







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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 9:47:16 PM   
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No but I have this overwhelming desire to tell you about time (in bandcamp ;-) when my slave said something really stupid and I turned around and punched her in her junk and dropped her. she landed on her knees :-) Does that count?

D (owner of j)


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I would object to something like this being done in front of me.
It's one thing to have whatever type of relationship between you and your property, but something like this in public would constitute physical abuse, and I would be uncomfortable to the point of saying something, and any man beside me would absolutely need to speak up or lose a significant amount of respect from me (I know my brothers and late father wouldn't stand by watch you do that). M/BlkTallFullFig


i would probably speak up as well; and call the cops. There is no way this is an appropriate punishment; this is flat-out abuse. And before You tell me "she consented" or "mind your business"; i would remind You that this is probably 1st degree assault; a felony in most states.

i know people sometimes come here to spark controversy; i truely hope You lied or exaggerated to get attention and are not reporting real events.

pinkpleasures

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/29/2005 11:36:33 PM   
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i know people sometimes come here to spark controversy; i truely hope You lied or exaggerated to get attention and are not reporting real events.


yep a big lie. oopsie. <blush> sorry!

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/30/2005 12:04:15 AM   
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Edited to add : obviously, I'm talking about something happening in public...

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ORIGINAL : wolfie648
My last post on the subject.

Yeah right.
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ORIGINAL : wolfie648
Shall I start talking about all the things I don't like about your posts? ;-)

That's enough hijacking. Please do so in private if you really want to.

edited to add that the guy whose nose I broke wasn't with his girlfriend but with someone he had met in a bar, I suppose: I didn't exactly spend time in chitchat with the guy, and the woman ran away when I started punching the piece of shit that had just hit her. Nobody will make me believe I was wrong to interfere. If you do that in public (which was clearly the case in your original message before the edition), there may be another person who won't start discussing the terms of your relationship with your girlfriend.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/30/2005 1:04:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL : wolfie648
My last post on the subject.


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Yeah right.


I explained my reason. I notice that you didn't mention it. I also notice that you are not willing (so far) to address me on a point by point basis.

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ORIGINAL : wolfie648
Shall I start talking about all the things I don't like about your posts? ;-)

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That's enough hijacking. Please do so in private if you really want to.
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Gosh I'm sorry that I'm not allowed to use your own words and logic against you but that you can use mine against me. Please accept my apologies.

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edited to add that the guy whose nose I broke wasn't with his girlfriend but with someone he had met in a bar, I suppose: I didn't exactly spend time in chitchat with the guy, and the woman ran away when I started punching the piece of shit that had just hit her. Nobody will make me believe I was wrong to interfere. If you do that in public (which was clearly the case in your original message before the edition)


this is my original post unedited:

"No but I have this overwhelming desire to tell you about time (in bandcamp ;-) when my slave said something really stupid and I turned around and punched her in her junk and dropped her. she landed on her knees :-) Does that count?"

Tell me where it clearly states that it was in public. You quoted me in my entirety, so have others and so I quote myself now. Bandcamp? That's a reference to American Pie (the movie) and meant to be humorous. Winkie included.

The only thing I edited was to add info that I should have in the first place **after** the original post which I left as it was orginally posted.

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RE: Get on your knees, bitch! - 10/30/2005 1:41:01 AM   
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Gosh I'm sorry that I'm not allowed to use your own words and logic against you but that you can use mine against me. Please accept my apologies.

For fuck's sake go ahead if you really have to. But I really don't care what you think about me, and I seriously doubt anyone else does. At least have the decency to start a new thread , and don't expect a reply from me.
All I was saying is that although I have not always been there to protect my friends against violence (or are you going to say that even if I had been there, I should have let the twat that raped a friend of mine ?), I was there to defend that random girl from a random bastard.
I wasn't the only one to understand that you were talking about something done in public. Ah well I guess I should watch all teenager movies before writing on these boards.

I'm not going to address you on a point by point basis because there's no point at all to this "discussion". You won.

My apologies to the OP for the hijacking. I'm well aware that this -last- post (and my previous ones on the thread) are irritating.


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