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darkinshadows -> RE: Self-Esteem (10/29/2005 12:32:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: wipmebeetme100

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I don't know if I can help, but I think a Sub with low exteme, would be more vunerable to the Dom/Master, and maybe more submissive, if that makes any sense. Like cowling uner the Master's presence.


Don't know about that. I think a slave with high self esteem, is making more of a conscious effort when submitting. It is a decision, a choice. Not so much with a slave who has no or low self esteem. This is nothing that i know for sure....it just sort of makes sense to me.

cathy


I disagree. I have heaps of self positive self exteme. (who wouldnt want this angel?[;)]) Seriously though, I do not conciously make an effort to submit. It just happens. It's not a decision I can make... I cannot choose who I submit to, because its something overwhelming. For some, I am sure submission is a choice. But for myself, I have no choice in such - its like a sneeze - its a bodily and mental function which is good for my soul.

Peace and Love




GoddessLover -> RE: Self-Esteem (10/30/2005 10:53:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Quivver


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ORIGINAL: IronBear


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ORIGINAL: DesertRat


Some people who appear to project confidence or even overconfidence are actually compensating for a feeling that they really don't amount to much. I think they need external validation.


Bob



This is an excelent point Bob. It is one of the techniques we teach people with low self estem to help them deal with their problem. It is often in teraining sales people so their apparent self confidence will help their over all positiveness when making sale.



Good points….but I’ve an unpopular addition to all this.
As I’ve read most posts are in reference to Subs with low self-esteem.
Yet courses such as these have spit out a number of (men) with a false
Sense of Bravado. I add this due to one I met a few years ago.
Oh so capable, projected the image of leadership, expected
Complete and absolute blind loyalty that attracted all the women.
Yea, I was one. In a short time the glue got transparent showing
All the insecurities of self-doubt. Needless to say it didn’t take long
For me to say good by. I’m not Dom bashing. I’m only adding this
Because so many look to the title rather then the Human expecting
Them to live up to what they say they are. So many new women
Come to this questioning themselves, try so hard to follow protocol
And find themselves in the hands of another that may have as many,
Sometimes more issues then they do. My only point here is
That this is not limited to Subs only.

Q



Q, I couldn't agree with you more. it's not just the subs who have low self-esteem. I have met two Dom men in the past few years that have very low self-esteem. Of course, they wouldn't admit to it....who would?! However, it was so obvious that they didn't feel good about themselves, therefore they're actions towards the women they encounter reflected it. I used to have low self-esteem, I recognize all the signs....especially the insecurities and drama queen/king stuff. Luckily, I've done a lot self-help activities in the past several years to help gain more confidence and a good sense of self worth. But not people with low self-esteem are willing to help themselves, it seems as though they're looking for someone else (preferably, a Master or a Dom) to help them instead.

Peace,
GoddessLover




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