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rulemylife -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 10:41:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cantilena

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: cantilena

Are you reading a different question from the OP than I am?

I'm being serious.

Because I see the original question as:

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ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet
please can anyone tell me what domestic discipline is i am a domestic sub and never heard that before thank you


Am I missing the first part of this thread?

{{edited because I still can't use the freakin' quote feature without screwing it up somehow}}



He clarified it on his second post, which apparently nobody read.


With all due respect, it seems to me people are discussing the original question.  The OP later clarified, but after the question had already taken a turn toward the other context.  Now, if the OP had phrased the original post in a WHAP framework, who knows?  Maybe the thread would have taken an entirely different turn.

But s/he didn't.  S/he asked about DD generally.  And that's what folks are talking about.

Why the snark?


Hmmmmmmm?  Let's see, first you don't even know whether the OP is a he or she (it's he by the way), which makes a significant difference in this particular subject.  Second, you felt qualified to respond when you did not even understand his context which you easily could  have had you read the entire thread.  I mean, he clarified it in his second post, the fourth post overall, long before it turned to your particular agenda.     





WalterRego -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 10:42:10 AM)

FWIW, Whap is a pay site originally started by Kerri Pentauk. The "version" of domestic discipline on it is for men only, and it has no religious or spiritual underpinnings or interests. It's about humiliating males (small penis mostly), and into spanking, chastity, wearing aprons to do housework, and cuckoldry etc. There's no leather or traditional bondage or punishment stuff. More hairbrush and  spanking than anything else.   More wife as strict English Governess. Pure fantasy.

The discussion here is has been far more elevating and real than anything there.




cantilena -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 10:52:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

Are you reading a different question from the OP than I am?

I'm being serious.

Because I see the original question as:

quote:

ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet
please can anyone tell me what domestic discipline is i am a domestic sub and never heard that before thank you


Am I missing the first part of this thread?

{{edited because I still can't use the freakin' quote feature without screwing it up somehow}}



He clarified it on his second post, which apparently nobody read.


With all due respect, it seems to me people are discussing the original question.  The OP later clarified, but after the question had already taken a turn toward the other context.  Now, if the OP had phrased the original post in a WHAP framework, who knows?  Maybe the thread would have taken an entirely different turn.

But s/he didn't.  S/he asked about DD generally.  And that's what folks are talking about.

Why the snark?


Hmmmmmmm?  Let's see, first you don't even know whether the OP is a he or she (it's he by the way), which makes a significant difference in this particular subject.  Second, you felt qualified to respond when you did not even understand his context which you easily could  have had you read the entire thread.  I mean, he clarified it in his second post, the fourth post overall, long before it turned to your particular agenda.     




Okiedokie then.  You know, you're right.  I saw the original question and.... answered it.   Didn't check to see what parts the OP has.  Guilty as charged.

As for an agenda... well, you can continue to snipe at me if you like.  But I don't feel it's necessary... The fact is a question was asked, I answered it from within the realm of my own experience and then continued to discuss it with someone with an opposing view.  Not really understanding how that makes it my agenda...

Heck, I'm done with this one... I refuse to snipe back.




pinksugarsub -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:05:18 AM)

Dunno if i should ask questions here, or start a new thread.
 
Thought "domestic discipline" meant having someone do extra chores as a form of punishment; is that totally wrong?
 
What is a "domestic slave" or "domestic sub"?  Is it someone who cooks and cleans but never plays or has sex?
 
What is a "service sub"?
 
i'll start another thread if Y/you guys think it'd be better. 
 
pinksugarsub




rulemylife -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:05:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena

Are you reading a different question from the OP than I am?

I'm being serious.

Because I see the original question as:

quote:

ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet
please can anyone tell me what domestic discipline is i am a domestic sub and never heard that before thank you


Am I missing the first part of this thread?

{{edited because I still can't use the freakin' quote feature without screwing it up somehow}}



He clarified it on his second post, which apparently nobody read.


With all due respect, it seems to me people are discussing the original question.  The OP later clarified, but after the question had already taken a turn toward the other context.  Now, if the OP had phrased the original post in a WHAP framework, who knows?  Maybe the thread would have taken an entirely different turn.

But s/he didn't.  S/he asked about DD generally.  And that's what folks are talking about.

Why the snark?


Hmmmmmmm?  Let's see, first you don't even know whether the OP is a he or she (it's he by the way), which makes a significant difference in this particular subject.  Second, you felt qualified to respond when you did not even understand his context which you easily could  have had you read the entire thread.  I mean, he clarified it in his second post, the fourth post overall, long before it turned to your particular agenda.     




Okiedokie then.  You know, you're right.  I saw the original question and.... answered it.   Didn't check to see what parts the OP has.  Guilty as charged.

As for an agenda... well, you can continue to snipe at me if you like.  But I don't feel it's necessary... The fact is a question was asked, I answered it from within the realm of my own experience and then continued to discuss it with someone with an opposing view.  Not really understanding how that makes it my agenda...

Heck, I'm done with this one... I refuse to snipe back.


Didn't mean to snipe.  Just tired of seeing these boards go off in ten different directions from the intention of the OP.  My apologies, though, I'm not even sure what sniping is.  Hmm, maybe I'll start a thread on it.     
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cantilena -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:12:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Didn't mean to snipe.  Just tired of seeing these boards go off in ten different directions from the intention of the OP.  My apologies, though, I'm not even sure what sniping is.  Hmm, maybe I'll start a thread on it.     
[sm=rofl.gif]


No harm, no foul. :)

And, honestly... I admit I had no freakin' clue what WHAP was until the post from kind WalterRego.

Please.. no threads about sniping... Anything but THAT!!! (lol)




rulemylife -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:13:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WalterRego

FWIW, Whap is a pay site originally started by Kerri Pentauk. The "version" of domestic discipline on it is for men only, and it has no religious or spiritual underpinnings or interests. It's about humiliating males (small penis mostly), and into spanking, chastity, wearing aprons to do housework, and cuckoldry etc. There's no leather or traditional bondage or punishment stuff. More hairbrush and  spanking than anything else.   More wife as strict English Governess. Pure fantasy.

The discussion here is has been far more elevating and real than anything there.


Know what you mean!  What kind of person on a BDSM site would be interested in fantasy?




rulemylife -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:23:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet

thank you i heard it from a group that call themsellves whap 


Google it as "women who administer punishment" and you'll find a lengthly list of links to answer your questions.




slavegirljoy -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:31:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cantilena 

In every relationship, the dynamics are uniquely defined by those within it.  And everybody has the freedom to call what they do with/to each other anything they like. 

It sounds to me like we agree, at least on this issue.
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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

Just as with D/s, M/s, TPE, Marriage and any other personal relationship, a Domestic Discipline relationship is defined by the people in that relationship.  


As to all the posts about WHAP being the question at hand, the OP's question wasn't about WHAP.  The OP asked what Domestic Discipline is:
quote:

ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet

please can anyone tell me what domestic discipline is i am a domestic sub and never heard that before thank you
(my bolding and underlining to highlight this portion of text)
 
WHAP was only mentioned, later on, as the sort of group where the OP first heard the term, Domestic Discipline, used.

As to the OP's question being a simple one.  Well, that's about like saying that it's a simple question to ask what BD/SM is.

joy
Owned servant of Master David




rulemylife -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:42:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

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ORIGINAL: cantilena 

In every relationship, the dynamics are uniquely defined by those within it.  And everybody has the freedom to call what they do with/to each other anything they like. 

It sounds to me like we agree, at least on this issue.
quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

Just as with D/s, M/s, TPE, Marriage and any other personal relationship, a Domestic Discipline relationship is defined by the people in that relationship.  


As to all the posts about WHAP being the question at hand, the OP's question wasn't about WHAP.  The OP asked what Domestic Discipline is:
quote:

ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet

please can anyone tell me what domestic discipline is i am a domestic sub and never heard that before thank you
(my bolding and underlining to highlight this portion of text)
 
WHAP was only mentioned, later on, as the sort of group where the OP first heard the term, Domestic Discipline, used.

As to the OP's question being a simple one.  Well, that's about like saying that it's a simple question to ask what BD/SM is.

joy
Owned servant of Master David


Again, he clarified it very early on, almost immediately after his first post, long before you hopped up on your soap box to set us all straight.




cantilena -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:43:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

quote:

ORIGINAL: cantilena 

In every relationship, the dynamics are uniquely defined by those within it.  And everybody has the freedom to call what they do with/to each other anything they like. 

It sounds to me like we agree, at least on this issue.


Yep.

FWIW, I've re-read your thoughts about our differences perhaps largely lying in the inclusion/exclusion of D/s relative to BDSM... I think you're probably right on the money there.  Sometime, I'd love to discuss that with you - I think it would be a good conversation.





ownedgirlie -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 11:55:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Didn't mean to snipe.  Just tired of seeing these boards go off in ten different directions from the intention of the OP.  My apologies, though, I'm not even sure what sniping is.  Hmm, maybe I'll start a thread on it.     
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And your rant didn't take the thread in a different direction?

The OP asked about Domestic Discipline.  That is the subject of the question, and the subject all the responses are addressing.  The OP later claimed he heard it from whap - he didn't ask about whap specifically; whap was the source of his subject in question.

Snipe means to take a shot at, or to attack.




slavegirljoy -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 1:50:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cantilena

Yep.

FWIW, I've re-read your thoughts about our differences perhaps largely lying in the inclusion/exclusion of D/s relative to BDSM... I think you're probably right on the money there.  Sometime, I'd love to discuss that with you - I think it would be a good conversation.

At the risk of being 'sniped at' for 'getting on a soapbox' and 'taking this thread off into a different direction', i would be very interested in this sort of discussion with you, perhaps in another venue, so as not to bother anyone by having a discussion on the topics of D/s and BD/SM and how they relate (or not) to Domestic Discipline. 
 
It's a relief to know that others read the OP the same way i did.  For a minute, i was afraid i needed new glasses, since i read the Subject line of this thread as, "domestic ???" and not "WHAP???". 
 
And, i agree withWalterRego.
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ORIGINAL: WalterRego

The discussion here is has been far more elevating and real than anything there.

 
joy
Owned servant of Master David




rulemylife -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 9:00:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Didn't mean to snipe.  Just tired of seeing these boards go off in ten different directions from the intention of the OP.  My apologies, though, I'm not even sure what sniping is.  Hmm, maybe I'll start a thread on it.     
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And your rant didn't take the thread in a different direction?

The OP asked about Domestic Discipline.  That is the subject of the question, and the subject all the responses are addressing.  The OP later claimed he heard it from whap - he didn't ask about whap specifically; whap was the source of his subject in question.

Snipe means to take a shot at, or to attack.


Very possibly did, but I meant it to point it back in the original direction.  Again, he didn't "later" claim it.  He claimed it early on, BEFORE your first post on the subject.   Do you only respond to the original question without reading any subsequent posts?

Yes, I know what sniping is.  That was a joke, which the person it was sent to understood.  In the future, if you get confused again, look for the laughing smiley, that'll be your first clue.




MrRandallspe -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 9:10:59 PM)

Is a domestic better than in import?




ownedgirlie -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 9:48:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Very possibly did, but I meant it to point it back in the original direction.  Again, he didn't "later" claim it.  He claimed it early on, BEFORE your first post on the subject.   Do you only respond to the original question without reading any subsequent posts?

Sometimes I do.  Sometimes I respond to all at once.  Since I've never heard of whap before this thread, and since whap was brought up 2 hours after his original post as the source of the subject of the post, I did not know its relevance.  So I answered the subject of his question, which was Domestic Dominance, not whap.  He asked what is domestic discipline.  He did not ask what is whap. 

If I said "What is hypnosis?" and then two hours later I said "I heard about it from a group called Hypnosis R Us", I would be disappointed if everyone started telling me who Hypnosis R Us was, since that wasn't my question.

We obviously understand and interpret things differently. 

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Yes, I know what sniping is.  That was a joke, which the person it was sent to understood.  In the future, if you get confused again, look for the laughing smiley, that'll be your first clue.


I wasn't confused.  I was responding to what a snipe is, as I was responding to all of your post.  I saw the laughing guy, but it could just be that we don't share the same sense of humor since I didn't find it funny. 




ownedgirlie -> RE: domestic ??? (6/2/2008 9:49:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRandallspe

Is a domestic better than in import?


Rarely!!




Auslin -> RE: domestic ??? (6/3/2008 7:52:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Here's an interesting blog on "Loving Domestic Discipline"
http://lovingdd.blogspot.com/




I am so glad to come across this link again, thank you for adding it.




slavegirljoy -> RE: domestic ??? (6/3/2008 8:43:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

So I answered the subject of his question, which was Domestic Dominance, not whap.  He asked what is domestic discipline.  He did not ask what is whap. 

Maybe, one day, agonyndefeet, the OP, will come back to this thread and clarify, once and for all, whether or not the question being asked was about Domestic Discipline or WHAP.
 
But, it seems to me, if the question was about WHAP, it could have been posted to the group, "that call themsellves whap" to get it answered there......mmmmmm.......
quote:

ORIGINAL: agonyndefeet

thank you i heard it from a group that call themsellves whap 

joy
Owned servant of Master David





leadership527 -> RE: domestic ??? (6/3/2008 1:36:50 PM)

I agree with several others here.  I looked into "domestic discipline" pretty carefully since I'm still struggling to find some community somewhere.  My own assessment is that the HUGE focus on spanking and various other forms of corporal tells the tale.  Honestly, if this isn't about kink, then how often do you really need to punish your partner?  And if it's that much, has it occurred to you that somethign is wrong? 

These are the questions that came to my mind.  I rejected DD as a possible community for me because I also saw it as "BDSM lite" with a certain dishonesty attached.  That being said, that was my assessment of the community, I'm utterly certain that as individuals, they span every known gamut as humans are wont to do.




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