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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 11:20:05 AM   
CalifChick


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I changed my last name when I was 18 (no marriage involved); I know of three women who changed their first names.

In none of the cases was it even close to easy.  For the other 3 women, no one who had known them as their former names would use their new name.  It didn't help that all three women were a bit "touched in the head" as they say.  And all of us still have original birth certificates with our old names.  When I did some research, I found that most courts would only change a birth certificate if there was an adoption, if you entered witness protection (and then they didn't change the original, they just issued a new one), or if there was an error on the original birth certificate (such as no father listed and the father petitions the court to have his name added and paternity is proven).  I could not find anywhere in the US that would change a birth certificate for any other reason (at that time).

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 11:21:46 AM   
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I don't know why not.  I have been using my name for over 20 yrs, and changed it because I hate my birth name.
I don't think people should feel stuck with a name they didn't ask for.
In some cultures people are given a name at birth, which changes as the person grows up.
I like that.
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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 12:04:12 PM   
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Master is changing my last name, and not through marriage.

He was going to have me change my first name, too, but has sinced changed his mind on that. 

It takes time and money in California to undergo a name change, but it can be done.  I have already informed friends and family of what my new last name will be, and all are accepting of it.

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 12:37:39 PM   
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It sounds like a nice idea to me.  Master and I have talked about changing my name (not legally although I'm sure if we had changed it he would have wanted to do it legally.)  I really wish he could give me a slave name but I had been using my scene name (charlotte) for so long that he's decided not to change it (and now it's a stage name too so it would be a bad idea to change it.)  We both really like my given name too so he mostly calls me that or cuntling unless we're at a dungeon or it's something for work.  If he hadn't liked my name I think he would have changed it.  He's like that...

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 1:49:14 PM   
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Sir keeps threatening me with Doorknob

have told Him .. as long as He feels comfortable intoducing me as Doorknob to His friends... or yelling it across the mall ... its just fine with me

its certainly not as bad as Miss DrippyWiggles .. thank god He gave up on that one

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 1:53:42 PM   
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I've begun switching my first and middle names around, I like my middle name much more than my first name.In Michigan to change your last name you need to pay a fee, and get fingerprinted with the state police in case you are changing it for felonious reasons which ticks me off to no end. I want to go back to my maiden name but I will not get voluntarily fingerprinted dammit.

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 3:51:53 PM   
Usako


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quote:

ORIGINAL: katie978

  I tend to play the pessimist when it comes to changing things forever for your dom-I can't picture a permanent mark that I'll have to wear (or carry) forever when there's always the potential that the partner I've been marked for can do something horrible and then I'm stuck. While a name is reasonably easy to change, for any reason, it doesn't seem like a particularly sexy thing to me. In addition to being stuck with a name if you should ever break up, changing a name just largely seems to involve a hell of a lot of paperwork. Paperwork-not so sexy.


Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter. I like my real name very much and I have thought about changing it for my own reasons once or twice, I know I never would. And, I don't believe in being stuck with permanent reminders of any person. A tattoo? A name change? How cute! What? the relationship is over now? Sucks to be you.

Paying money, filling out paperwork, having to explain to family and friends why I did something as stupid as changing my name for a man....all for what? For a relationship that may or may not work out? No thanks.

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 4:30:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

Paying money, filling out paperwork, having to explain to family and friends why I did something as stupid as changing my name for a man....all for what? For a relationship that may or may not work out? No thanks.



I'm curious if you feel the same about changing a name due to marriage.

I can't wait to change my last name away from my ex husband's.  I'm not going back to my maiden name, though, I'm going to a name my Master has chosen. 

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 4:37:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie
I'm curious if you feel the same about changing a name due to marriage.


Honestly not sure. I have no intention of getting married anytime soon so the idea doesn't cross my mind much. It seems like a hassle though...but it's a traditional thing so I'm on the fence. I've seen the lil issues my mom has had with her last name She was married once, got divorced and then remarried. Some mail is to her second married name, some is to her combined first marriage and second marriage name and VERY VERY rarely it's to just her first married name. She never dropped the last name because of her kids (my brother and sister) as not to confuse their schools when they were younger. It was on all her bills, insurance, medical records and job papers. It was a lot less hassel to just latch on the new last name to the other one.

I don't quite want to ever have to go through such a hassel...so I'm on the fence if I would change it or not. When the time comes, I'll know.

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/2/2008 5:27:18 PM   
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In Australia if you have changed your name through marrage at anytime you are free to go back to your maiden name no costs involved. For changing our first names we just have to proves its not to get out of debt or to commit fraud. I don't have the issue of trying to explain to my family as its just mum, my brother and i and both of them have changed their names in the past. Friends wise most of my friends call me by a nick name and not my birth name anyway and scene friends all call me by the name Master gave me.

On the birth certificate thing part of the $58 fee covers the cost of issue of a birth certificate in your new name. Yes changing bank account, medicare, health insurance etc is a little bit of a fuss but no bigger deal then and no more time to do them then filling in a form and showing the new birth certificate and even doing those things would be an extension of the taking the name Master has given me thing. Each thing that I have to change is another time of my affirming to myself and Master that I am his. Master has set me tasks in the past that took longer then it would take to get these things change.

If we get it done I would prefer it to be done before our wedding as I want the new name used in the ceremony not my birth name. I also want it done before I finish Uni so that I can graduate with it and not mess around with having to pay $100 for reissue of degree and academic transcript in the new name,

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/3/2008 1:54:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Usako

quote:

ORIGINAL: katie978

I tend to play the pessimist when it comes to changing things forever for your dom-I can't picture a permanent mark that I'll have to wear (or carry) forever when there's always the potential that the partner I've been marked for can do something horrible and then I'm stuck. While a name is reasonably easy to change, for any reason, it doesn't seem like a particularly sexy thing to me. In addition to being stuck with a name if you should ever break up, changing a name just largely seems to involve a hell of a lot of paperwork. Paperwork-not so sexy.


Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter. I like my real name very much and I have thought about changing it for my own reasons once or twice, I know I never would. And, I don't believe in being stuck with permanent reminders of any person. A tattoo? A name change? How cute! What? the relationship is over now? Sucks to be you.

Paying money, filling out paperwork, having to explain to family and friends why I did something as stupid as changing my name for a man....all for what? For a relationship that may or may not work out? No thanks.




i can thoroughly understand the reticence on both your parts, and i would think that for some people it could even be seen as the kiss of death to a relationship in a sort of superstitious way.

Personally i have come to an age and a decision that i have no intention of looking for anyone else if my relationship with Master Andy failed, because we have been together for a good while now, and that i see that situation unchanging because we have an understanding of friendship and companionship even if the dynamic we have is lost along the way. Even my keeping the married name i have used since 1973 isn't an issue for either of us, it's just me and what's in a surname anyway?

For me my slave name, "emotion", is precious to us, having come about from my reaction to the first act of tenderness from Andy as my Master, and will always remain special, ours alone. We neither of us mind others knowing it, but that name is what i am called in those special moments together, rather than every day mundane situations, if that makes sense.


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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/3/2008 2:06:14 AM   
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the thought of changing my name to a name given to me is something i have often though about. it would be a true honor. i cant stand my first name. it is so fluffy and cute. not to mention Mama spelled it whacky. Tami.. i mean come on sounds like a 5 year old with pig tails.. yeesh.. i go by, and prefer my middle name of Lee. i guess that is obvious. that one came from one grandmother and a great grandmother. so that one i would prefer to keep. my last name.. i have had that one a long long time. changing it would involve so many new numbers that i already have commited to memory. the whole time i lived in PA i never could remember that drivers license number, but my FL number was engraved on my brain.

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RE: Any slave had their Masters change their names lega... - 6/3/2008 2:24:31 AM   
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I think it is a sweet idea, especialy if you already like this name better than your given one.  Should anything happen to your relationship, make sure you would still be happy with it and I say go for it.  Many people know me as bel, though it isn't my given name.  While I don't want to change my given name, I can certainly see the appeal.

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